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Frankly, just size and brains. I think all we need to know is if they are football players and that we can only get from watching the games. The combine just tells us they are healthy and how many brain cells are working.

Trade our #3 for Tim freakin' Tebow???? Really? Has this board gone crackerdogs? Let's all take a deep breath and back away from the keyboard. Tebow's going to have a Jim McMahon type of career. People will like him and root for him but he's just not that talented. If all the stars align, he may have a chance at the big game, but not because of what he brings to the table. Keep our pick and let's continue our discussion on Cam VS. Defense at #3.

Now there you go with facts. It ruins a perfecdtly good tantrum on the part of some on this thread who think somehow we would be a better team with Jonathan Scott and Ritchie Incognito on board. I'd rather play guys who needed to play or to see what they got when your team is on the rebuild. Both of those guys were not in any long term picture for us. As it stands now, let's just get a freakin' RT in the draft of FA and I think we're going to be fine.

Think this is in a previous thread.

Watching tape of Bowers, Fairley and Dareus, I was least impressed by Bowers. Dareus is so quick and athletic for a big man and has power for a bull rush. He sheds blockers better than FaIrley. Fairley has power and a nasty streak I liked. Nothing really popped out at me watching Bowers - though stats dictate he's got something going on.

The mods are going to bust you with that major of a cut and paste. Copyright issues bro.

Miller is just lame. A once clever and funny comic now reduced to playing the Sammy Davis Jr. role in the right-wing Rat Pack.

Miller and Boss don't look promising? Maybe it's been so long since you've seen a TE you just forgot what they look like and what they do.

I think the good Doctor has got it right.

I don't want in any round! He's maxed out his frame already and he's too damn small. We have enough small LB's.

Mango is dead on. Besides, Chan already said the teams S&C coaches were focusing on squats,etc for the lower body strength. TT wouldn't be doing any training program if it were not okay'd by the team. Core is fundemental strength training. You can pile on weight or even muscle on top, but if your core isn't strong, you're not. A guy that big doing the wheel is impressive. I invite you all to try it sometime. It's a killer and back in the day I could crank a few out.....not so much now. The kid is on the right track.

+1. Sorry naysayers, but this is how a team gets better. Moving on from Stroud for all the reasons Stony points out, and using that money on draft picks or FA's. Listening to the FO comments about the move, they are looking at DE's in the draft and after coaching them in the Senior Bowl, must have their eye on a few. So bravo Chan and Buddy. This is how teams improve. When Belecheat does this, it's a brilliant move. When we do it, all the p*ssing and moaning starts.

He needs more strength but he does not get pushed back. In his rook year BJ Ragi looked like TT in his first year and he's looking pretty damn good now. Let's see what the new season brings.

That wasn't a diss of the Packers. It was a response to some posters who equated small market teams as freeloaders that don't generate the same revenue as larger market teams. The argument is that some owners would like to only large markets have teams. My point was two of the smaller market teams just played for the Superbowl.

Hey GBF, welcome. Pulled hard for your Packers for the SB. Small market, cold weather teams gotta stick together. Happy to see the Farve monkey off Rodgers' back. I'm interested in the maturation of BJ Raji. He seemed not much of a factor last year but really started having some impact this season. We have a rook NT in Torrell Troup and we're hoping he picks it up next year. What made the diff with BJ? Strength training in the off season or just playing?

+1. They likely wanted to give him time to catch on a 4-3 team. He's got some game left at DT in a 4-3. He tried and did what was asked of him. He gave us some good years and was a good teammate by all accounts. I wish him all the best.

How about being on national TV and losing your job after getting caught trolling for chicks shirtless on Craigs List. Oh yeah, and your wife and family get to read all the lying emails. Oh and do that right before Valentines Day. Geez, what's a Homerish Pollyanna to do?

We'll see. In the meantime I just can't abide any sorry ass "woe are we" posts like 8 in 8's. We're going to be a lot better next year. Your Jets are far from dominant.

Why is everyone so high on Mathews. He's a small LB who can't cover. Don't we have our quota of those?

Oh my, the little cloud that cried..... Gosh maybe you should start on some Prozac and stay away from sharp objects or things you may hang yourself with. You know, this is easy to fix for you, go root for the Jets! You seem to anyway.

One of the "freeloaders" just beat another "freeloader" in the Superbowl.

Shanny is arrogant and a spender. He was good when he had a great QB and so-so since. I was glad we didn't get him last year and moreso this year.

The best lesson we can learn from Moby Dick is that all of us, no matter what race, creed, color or origin, are literally in the same boat and need to pull together to survive. That applies to Bills fans all the more!

Congrats to all. So far this has been my favorite thread of 2011. Great information and intelligent discussion on a topic I've been thinking a lot about. Wish TSW had more threads like this.

Start with the big dogs up front and the LB and DB play will improve. Then load up LB's and the DB play improves all the more. Then look at DB's. What the He'll is so hard to figure out?