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I was looking for NGU yesterday. It's go time!

+1 This is the real world baby.

Not too many posts from you but this is a goody! +1

He makes Gabbert sound like the next Trent Edwards, that's enough to scare me. I hope Buddy has some rogue in him. Maybe this trade back into the first round talk has some fiber to it. Could be Buddy wants Locker or Colin Kaepernick. Now, I'll have to watch Jurrell Casey as well.

Then you would have been saying the same thing about BJ Ragi in his first year at Green Bay. He did squat. His second year he picked it up and towards year's end was a force on a SuperBowl team. Thank God you're not pulling the trigger on assessing talent. Troup is going to be a lot better this year and so will Carrington. Not many rooks light it up in year one. Even Bruce Smith wasn't that impressive year one. After he shed some pounds and got better conditioning he was all-world. Suppose you would have used the "bust" label on him year one? More genius. Guess they should have cut Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, BJ Ragi, and almost all Pittsburgh linebackers. Christ, get real.

May as well end the thread with this post. It won't get any better!

I too had the complete opposite reaction. He really got my attention while at the chalkboard. He's football smart and clearly loves the game.

I love Gruden's style. He's at his best in this setting and I'd like to see more of it. The break down with Mallet was great and an eye opener. The kid just came to life when breaking down the play on the white board. All of the segments have been great.

The fish FO should just watch Gruden's show and they would learn more about QB's in the draft then the half-assed series of hoops they are making possible picks jump through.

Gotta love Fitz. That, friends is how to lead a team and have your guys run through broken glass barefoot for you. As for Stuffins, outstanding translation. I'm mid 50's and get most of the lingo, but man, that had me scratching my head, thinning hair and all......

No he can't. We tried that already and he's a disaster in coverage. Moats is a pass rusher and he needs to play ROLB.

Such a fuss from the OP. Calm down Beavis! All you say is true except there isn't a franchise QB to pick from. Why p*ss away our #3 on a reach. Let's get some freaking talent.

I have to agree. It as a good discussiona and accurate to where we are now. Dilfer was actually taking a dig at himself, and he's right. We'll need a killer defense to win a title just like he needed. As fans, we have to understand that not every national mention of us is wrong. I'm no media lover but in all fairness, there is a truth to what they are saying and I would rather be having them talk about us than ingoring us. I also saw a healthy respect for Chan Gailey from those guys.

Yup. Draft D and let's start improving against the run and get after the passer like good teams do. I'd roll the dice on a QB at #3 if I really thought they were the real deal. These guys are great athletes, but so was Rob Johnson, Vince Young, yadda yadda.

He's a great QB and a HOF'er. I still like to see him get beat up on field because he's just like Marino...a cry baby. Rough him up a little and he pouts. He's on top of the world now and he's just having a little tantrum because he can't rewrite history about his draft position. He wanted the Peyton Manning draft experience and didn't get it and is still pouting. I'd like him better if he wasn't a taunting pr*ck and liked to run up scores against lesser opponents. That's why I have enjoyed the past few seasons of seeing him miss the big game and will really enjoy watching his inevitable decline to mediocrity. His best days are behind him.

I wish you'd stop beating around the bush and get to the point! Okay, so to respond to your three points at length: I agree That's right You betcha

I get all that but that wasn't my question. I asked Astrobot why he thinks Buddy is looking at a trade down when his comments and track record say otherwise.

Jeez, two threads in a row that I agree with Thoner. That scale is just stupid and only makes sense if there is a Peyton Manning on the board. Who in this draft would you give away most of your draft for?

Sneaky Astrobot. Hey Bot, you have been citing trade down scenarios for awhile. I just can't see Buddy pulling the trigger on trading down. What are you seeing that many of us are not seeing?

I think Thoner has it right with the tiered approach. Now let's hope the FO has the tiers correct.

Why? They would never be on the field as our D would be yielding 200 yards plus on the ground game in and game out.

Sorry Bang, but I will keep saying this until it sinks in......BELL IS NOT A RIGHT TACKLE AND NEVER WILL BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tackles are not interchangeable and Bell is a perfect fit for LT. He is not and never will be a road grader RT. The two sides require different skills and talents. Please everyone stop blithely saying "switch Bell to RT" as it is not an option. There, I feel better. That said, not crazy about burning another first pick on another lightweight LB with speed two years running.

I think what we get out of the OP's question is to not believe anything you hear and half of what you read. Nice work K-Gun. I too am wary of another one year impact guy.

Looking forward to seeing the 2010 draft picks step it up as starters next year.

Well, Cam hasn't tortured and killed any dogs or raped co-eds in the mens room of bars yet so Nawrocki should have at least added that he's seen worse.