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Point taken. It was disturbing to see them pound the ball on us. If it happens again next week I'll be concerned.
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The official Get 'R Done Thread (OL)
Green Lightning replied to Billsnutt's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Not a stretch because he does. He's been dreadful in TC and was brutal last night. When you build a line by the waiver wire you get what you pay for. -
He's had a brutal camp. Sign a true starter now and let the guy "develop" without killing Fitz or having Spiller met at the handoff. He didn't see the field in Pittsburgh because he's not good enough.
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Troup will be fine. He got some double teams and pushed the pocket. He's not a penetrator. Nice batted down pass. The club on his hand didn't help. Tough to shed blocks with that thing on.
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Agree. By my count we have 5 waiver wire pick ups on the OL...two of them are starting and three are primary backups. That's not investing in your OL. It's plugging bodies into positions that are not that important to you. If we can drop $4 mil a year on a gadget guy for crissakes get a real starting OG and some depth player on the OL in here.
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Kraig Urbik is not a starting OG in this league. How can a guy that big be so consistently out muscled and pushed around? Pears actually held his own but Urbik needs to go.
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I think Thigpen will become franchise qb who will prove to be so incredibly mobile that we will longer need an offensive line, thus validating the FO's OL strategy of benign neglect. Genius really.
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I just as soon keep Lee. His cap hit is small and he will make Stevie better. That said, if Lee goes, younger guys get to step up. It's not like our OT's will give Fitz time to toss deep anyway.
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How bad will the Bills OTs be?
Green Lightning replied to DC Grid's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Bad poll. I agree with Dorkington, need less extremes. They will be mediocre. We can do better. -
Because it's not very good. Folks here seem to be happy with adequate. Others want our line to dictate our offense and not to gimmick to hide deficiencies. I would love to see fewer question marks on this line (I count 3 of them) and see at leastl another solid OT and some depth.
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For those that are worried about the O-line
Green Lightning replied to Jerry Jabber's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
You're the OL coach of the Bills aren't you? Hey, come on. This team has had putrid OL's for a decade now. You think Buddy has addressed the line by picking up an assortment of waiver wire and PS acquisitions - really? I get it that players improve. But we have three honest to God question marks on this line. Bill Belichek's book talks about Buffalo's "horsesh*t line" because that's what it has been. That they took a run at Clabo was good, but it didnt' work. The idea is still correct, we do not have quality and depth at these key positions. Maybe Wang will improve. Great. He's got a few weeks to be able to handle some big time NFL pass rushers. I'm just saying Buddy has had a year now to at least pick up one other solid starter to brace this OL. Having a one or two question marks is a lot better than what we have now, other teams cast offs and UDFA's who may "weigh a ton' but can't protect the passer or pave the way for a run game. And by the way, I'm not sure where all the Whitner/Maybin and other references made it into your response, but those criticisms didn't come from me. I just think our OL, as configured, is not very good and I stand by the statement. -
So then, if we all agreed, we'd all be wrong?
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I would agree with you, but we'd both be wrong .
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Minute-by-minute updates from camp today
Green Lightning replied to BillsObserver's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Hey F'beardy. Thanks, but for those of us who don’t tweet....how about a mid-practice update? -
Stock response for the 100th time. DON"T LISTEN TO DOPE AND THE LAPDOG AND YOU WON'T NEED A DOZEN THREADS ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!
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For those that are worried about the O-line
Green Lightning replied to Jerry Jabber's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
At the end of the day, it's hard to escape the simple idea of signing at least one competent OT. Just one. Not even a star. Just a good starter. We have three question marks out of five players and zero depth at tackle. I love the team and support Channix and like what I see for the most part. But the unwillingness to address the OL is puzzlement - and it will kill us (hopefully not Fitz) this year. And if you all believe we'll be OK, or short passes and screens will disguise our bad line, I invite you to watch Ed Wang in practice. D.Bell goes down and that's what we have to step in. Sweet Jesus Buddy, do something. -
I get your point and I get WEO's point as well. The thing I decided to try was to separate the Smith acquisition with my general disappointment about the lack of attention to the OL. I don't want a gimmick guy to disguise our lousy OL, I want a good, solid OL. But that said, Brad Smith is a weapon that I'm happy to have. Your breakdown of touches/yards is excellent and I too, would be pleased as Hell to see that kind of weekly production. So short story, I'm not going to take out on Smith, my disgust at our OL choices. I hope there remains time to bring in at least one starter at OT and some quality depth. Watching Wang in practice makes me yearn for Cornell Green for Chrissakes.
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I know your point is well thought out and valid. And I'm far too old to be responding with anything other than reasoned acknowledgement of a good argument....but Screw Boston!
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8/5 -8/8 camp visit report
Green Lightning replied to LynchMob23's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Thanks Lynchmob. Nothing like being there. We've been hearing both bad and good on Urbik and Pears. What's your take? -
Merriman schools and then tutors Wang
Green Lightning replied to JoeF's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I guess I don't understand the steadfast feeling on the part of the FO on this topic. I get it with other positions, young guys need to play. But we have preciouls little talent at OT and zero depth. It needed to be addressed years ago and it's looking like they are not going to address it again. I think "the Hoody" said it best in his book when he talked about "Buffalo's horsesh*t offensive line" as a reason why we can never beat them. DBell is okay, just okay and with nobody behind him that's even close to Okay. Pears is journeyman. Urbik is a question mark. All the gimmick players and scatbacks mean zero without a competent OL and right now it looks as if we wont have one for the upteenth year in a row. -
Some thoughts for the first week
Green Lightning replied to jahnyc's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I like "The Offensive Loin " better. -
I wish the best to Nick Barnett
Green Lightning replied to Ice bowl 67's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Hey Ice Bowl. Congrats on your SB team. Cheered my *ss off for them. Thanks for the ILB and you have a great RB via Buffalo. Thanks for the classy post. -
Unexpected cuts on the way?
Green Lightning replied to San Jose Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Havent' been to camp but others are telling me the guy is looking great. Lot's of power, balance and quickness. -
I'm with San Jose. Standing Bison baby!
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Fast as in 4.8 or so at 6'7" -272 pounds! He's not running by safeties, he's running over them at a good clip!