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hahahahaha, this is classic....im actually making a word document so that I can look back on this in a few months and get another good laugh out of it...keep it comin man, please hahahaha internet tough guys=better than pants on the ground?

why would ANY of those coaches leave their respected, high ranking schools where they are treating like kings (and payed like kings as well) leave those DC jobs for the same title and job with a poor NFL team? People are here treat college like its a grooming ground for NFL...yes that is true, but for the PLAYERS, not the coaches... Both Bradley and Smart turned down NFL interviews last year for HEAD COACHING positions...this tells me they are quite comfortable in the college ranks and where they are at Any of those men would be downgrading their positions by taking the bills DC job....and im not even necessarily bad mouthing the bills...just that they are in superior positions and would even have to take a pay cut to come coach the bills...not happening

then you obviously dont watch too many texans games eh? Andre Johnson is without a shadow of a doubt the single best YAC WR in football, and has been for three years now but yes I concur aboot dansby

Well, I think Stroud could handle the nose duties, hes a mammoth and yes he is used to penetrating offensive lines rather than plug space, I think it would be fine for him to switch his style with no ill effects and 3-4 defenses dont have "burners" at DE that force offenses to keep extra blockers in, ends in the 3-4 are usually just big bodies that push around the o-line and let edge rushers ie. linebackers, safeties and corners, to rush the passer...see richard seymour in NE in the past

Butler has started WAYYYYYYYYY more than 3 games at RT haha

definately, down with ellison, I want him off of this team more than any other "player" on this bum squad...no more safety/linebackers PLEASE

then you and I were watching a different center play football this year...Hangman was better than decent at center, especially after Wood went down, he was left on an island a lot more in the middle with some tough nose and d-tackles and he more than held his own....Hang and Levitre were the only bright spots after wood went down bro

I couldnt agree more...I think last years draft solidified our inside line for years to come, providing that wood does come back 100 percent-and all indications are that he will, and if hangartner plays for another 4 years...I can live with a mediocre RT if we can somehow land a franchise left tackle....and that is a huge IF though you are correct....if we could somehow get McNeil from the chargers, that allows our draft to be BPA for sure....frees us up to take McClain (i pray every night for him to fall to us) or any other DT that is still around....main point, gives us flexibility and options...but we may hav eto use that number 9 pick on a LT, which isnt the worst thing in the world

you mean Meatloaf?

ralph has never stated he is selling the team to the highest bidder upon his death

I was pretty sure Roger Goodell said, might have even been at last years HOF ceremony, that it was in the NFLs best interest to keep the Bills in Buffalo, and that they will be in Buffalo...Im not to worried, its not like ralphie is gonna die and everyones gonna be like "Oh ****, what do we do with the bills now"?

i dont know who would make that trade with us, but i would be fine with doing that as long as we could somehow get McClain at number 9...but i can assure you arthur jones wont be around in rounds 4 or 5, even thinking hes there in the third is wishful thinking

I dont understand all of the people who think the bills WONT do this move because they are run (kind of) by a marketing "guru"....philadelphia proved that a team can sign vick and not lose its loyal fan base/endorsements/season ticket sales... In fact, I think its the other way around...if this orgnaization dosent take a shot at either a name, a proven talent or a hot QB season tickets will plummet....they signed a retread old coach instead of building excitement with a name, you know Brandon is aware of this and will be looking to make some type of move that puts butts in the seats.... Because I, like some of you are posting about if we DO sign Vick you wont support the team, will not be purchasing season tickets next season unless we DO sign vick-or a comparable QB along with some other talent to this team....So for Brandon, he knows he needs to do something to sell tickets, and hiring Chan Gailey was NOT the move to sell tickets

finally someone actually respons with the negatives rather than just "he killed dogs" haha....great post on his negatives... and you are absolutely correct about having to adapt an offense to fit him....howver, to me, that is where the strength of this move lies...Gailey is remarkable at tailoring his offenses to fit his personnel, and he had great success with QBs with similar skills as Vick in Thigpen and Slash Stewert.... My reasons for wanting to add Vick is to give him a shot to win the QB job, keep fitzy or edwards or both, but bring in someone to compete and probably win that starting job....his problems and negatives are also both of their problems and negatives (not reading defenses and making poor throws) so why not bring in someone with playmaking ability? As far as getting McNabb, not happening, as much as liESPN wants to talka bout it, Reid aint givin up McNabb...and they arent going to get rid of Kolb either, he is their future....that makes Vick odd man out and thus, on the trading block...

I really could not have said that better myself haha...so I just second that sentiment Why not take a "risk" on what some believe was one of the most dynamic players to play the QB position....and it is very unfortunate that we cant have civilized discussions about bringing in Vick because peeople just attack his character...character dosent win football games, talent does ( and an argument can probably be made that character guys lose you football games...just look at the bills and all the "character guys" we have been going after and bringing in the past 10 years and our lack of success....) WE NEED TALENT

im not saying its ok to torture and kill animals, im saying of all crimes committed by NFL athletes, this is dam near petty....and he has served his federal mandated punishment...sorry if you guys all feel you are above the constitution, the courts, the law and the government, but they say his debt to society is paid and i more than agree again though, all of this useless babble detracts from the OP about why it is or isnt a good idea to bring in Vick to play QB for the bills, not whether killing animals is ok, its just that most posters on here are too blinded by the killing of dogs to actual post useful responses i know that when we trade for vick or sign him if hes cut, me and my kitten will be meeting him at the airport in our matching Vick buffalo number 7's

hahaha, exactly...thats what im saying...its quite alrite to kill humans but dont you dare hurt my poodle! get over it peeps...happened, happens alot, he paid his price.... im worrying about a lack of talent on this team, a lack of a true signal caller since 1996, Vick fits a need that I see....and we will not have to pay him 5 mill a season at least for the first

that would be why I used the quotes ("mastermind") around the term for Brandon...its what hes referred to for his "business savy".... and I love how a realistic idea is thrown out there on this message board, and most of the replies are "HE SUCKS" , "YOUR A MORON" "HE KILLED DOGS" My OP was asking for serious reasons why we shouldnt make an attempt at vick...not peoples personal garbage, wah wah, he killed dogs, who gives a f....get over it people, and as far as him not being allowed back in the league b/c fireman and cops wouldnt be? Thats because their CIVIL SERVANTS and get their checks paid for BY THE PEOPLE and therefore have to be upstanding and honorable...NFL is a business, therefore, it acts like one....you dont take out one of your highest earning players ever b/c of minor indescrections, and yea, I do think dog fighting is low on the list of federal offenses, especially for the jail league the NFL has become As to Vick, again....the good nuggets from the otherwise garbage posts....He has a high winning percentage, he is still mobile (philly didnt give him chances to show this all that much other than sending him on basically a dive up the middle)...30 is not old in QB years, his pases for the eagles had some zip....and the most important thing....HES BETTER THAN OUR CURRENT SITUATION OR ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN PROBABLY GET (without wasting a high draft pick this year) thanks to the intelligent posters of this thread who attempted to use reason or statistics and not just "i hate you's"

oh yea, your right...im just throwing out random names of athletes i have heard of that Id like the bills to sign... No, moron, i have actually been thinking about this since last year when he was reinstated...and I think the potential rewards outweigh the potential risks....risks being none....rewards being a QB who knows how to win-however he does it, with his legs, with his arm, with his head, with his dogfighting ring...I dont care, a win is a win and thanks for your sarcasm about actual intelligent posts/topics...last I checked, this was a free board where we can post such posts as this....your a real positive addition to this thread and more importantly, board

to return the favor you put on my thread I LOVEEEE TIM TEBOWWW THREADDSSSSSSSS

well Vick is not a Free Agent, so he would need to get cut or we would have to trade for him... as for his career QB rating....look up Edwards and Fitz and tell me those....ohhhhh yeaaaaa, vick IS better and id rather take a hit on the QB rating a get a proven playmaker in here who will fill the seats and at least provide us a chance to win on sundays....thats just me though and Vick wouldnt be a traditional QB...see Chain gailey with thigpen or Kordell stewert...adapt the offense to fit the players...hell, lets run the wildcate with Freddie Vick and Beastmode....at least all three can throw the football....its all about having options and adapting man, and Vick does that for us....flexibility

exactly...he has a history of making things out of mobile QBs I would be absolutely fine with Vick playing like Slash Kordell Stewert...better than Edwards/Fitz/Brohm/Hamden haha I just think it makes too much sense, very little risk with high upside

we probably actually are looking at an inexperienced D-cord....I just have a gut feeling hes going to give the job to Jim Jeffcoat for his first NFL coordinator job.....hopefully he only bring him in as dline...but I just have a feeling it will be d cordinator

he will be 30, your right...and he could still play 5 more years, not to mention he spent two years out of football so he has two years less wear and tear on his body...unless you count prison gang bangs and jumpings wear and tear..last I checked though, you dont throw passes with your booty hole haha

not to mention....look what good ole Chan Gailey did in Kansas City two years ago with an EXTREME POOR MANS version of michael vick (tyler thigpen)...they actually lit up the offensive side of the ball the second half of that year when Chan installed the spread offense with thigpen impersonating michael vick....I think it could really work as a stop gap at the QB spot for the next few years.... it AT LEAST allows this team to build correctly...in the trenches, and not waste picks on possible future QBs in the 1st and second round