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there was a Pontillo's in Lockport - north of buffalo, "near" spencerport - the husband and wife got divorced and the husband reopened the shop, same location, but the name is now Lock City Pizza IF thats the Pontillos you are talking about

you sir, are crazy - maybe if you are eating that crappy Salamedie Spiedie marinade but Lupo's Spiedie Marinade is heaven Chicken or Pork (or lamb if your into that) marinaded in a sauce that is vinegar and spices - and juicy and tasty - served on a piece of fresh italian bread (or a crusty sub roll if you must) - aint nothing like it...sure beats boring ass roast beef on a salted roll

new yorks should have been the Spiedie

Lewis went to Duke, hes a MENSA member, and has already thrown for 5 TDs this sunday against Cinci....

why is being a smash mouth football team EXCLUSIVE to running a hurry up offense? why cant you be both? I like the uptempo no huddle (if Thad can run it in practice all week then im all for giving it a shot)

and the best Canadian programming of all time....TRAILER PARK BOYS!!!!

I mean, ive been a SAMCRO fan for years now, but im just over it - every episode is like a grand theft auto mission - problem arises, go beat someones ass, get business out of it....ill finish watching it until the end as a fan....but I just wish it went different places (very good acting for the most part though, and some of the plot is top notch)

Jack.Them.Up.At.The.Line.Of.Scrimmage. I believe that is the key to beating the browns - leave the safeties over the top to help if a WR/TE get off the line freely - I hope to (and think) we will see an uber-aggressive game plan from our D tonight

absolutely true, and his impact goes far past the numbers

so you never got to watch Bruce eh?

and life with a terrible defensive coordinator and life on a terrible defense that cannot even pretend to stop the run so they have to throw 8 bodies at it, leaving the corner on an island all game long to get toasted and life on a defense that cant pressure the QB so the DB has to stay with his man for 10 seconds, and against a QB who can always set his feet due to lack of pressure and put the ball on the money this year, the defense is stopping the run with about 5 guys on average, leaving safeties to help over the top, and LBs and other DBs underneath, and the defense is pressuring QBs into poorly thrown balls that allow the DB time to recover and/or look back for the ball and get a hand on it (see: williams end zone play last week)

ahhhh, gug is going with the "sum is equal to the parts" argument...classic and true

yes, but your gonna be pissed when you cant finish the show b/c newest Eps arent on netflix there are other great series to make the 7 dollars even more worth it: Lilyhammer, West Wing (if you never got on the train), House of Cards, Arrested Development, Trailer Park Boys (just to name a few) I do the streaming only Netflix for 7.99 a month and id say I usually get my monies worth (however, there are months like this one where I have not turned netflix on once....)

Even when Mario has not been getting sacks, he has been getting pressure and push at the point of attack in the run game - I think Mario has done well...his sacks will come, and when they do, he can dominate a game (carolina)

its not as easy as "bring pressure and Hoyer will suck" - Cleveland has a good o-line and mcgahee is a terrific blocking back - we need the dline to win their 1 on 1s in order to get to Hoyer...keep kiko roving the middle, and jam cameron at the line.....hopefully mckelvin plays we need to be able to run the ball tonight, and in order to do that, we need to get clevelands from 7 out of the box on every 1st and 2nd down (throw early!!!!!!!) - and use their aggressiveness against them, could we finally see the return of our screen game? god I hope so....

agree with OP - Lawson jamming him at the line hard, and then running with him - with a safety over the top on that side of the field in case he beats him out right like Tyson said "everyones got a plan until they get punched in the mouth" - hope this is the plan and that we stick with it - Manny needs to have a big night

well Rogers wont "sit" - he will play about half the game in various packages - we use all of our corners, every game...Rogers will play, Robey will play...

minus Byrd of course : ) its actually been kind of fun to watch this defense (finally) this year - minus the whole getting off the field on third down issues that still seem to plague us - but ill chalk that up to us being depleted through injuries for the most part and it being early on in the season

THIS and I think finally having an uber-capable coordinator will allow williams to do just that...

couldnt disagree more bullschit - Byrd is under a one year contract, show up and play bc THATS what you are being paid to do, hes not being paid to ride out this contract until his next one - hes getting paid, and getting paid VERY WELL, to play this year of football for the bills we all understand the whole garbage about it being a business - good, we get that, we understand why hes being a little biotch, doesnt mean we have to be a fan of his anymore, doesnt mean we have to like him as a player or respect him as a man....but your saying every NFL player in a contract year should sit on the sidelines because he could get hurt??? no, thats BS - hes being paid as one of the best players in the league for this year and he is sitting his crying ass on the bench i hope he never wears a bills uniform again

I do agree with this....WR screens and screens to Freddie/CJ to get them in space and lessen the impact of the constant banging with the big bodies - use Choice for the banging for the most part (this is NOT saying dont run Fred and CJ) to get you your 3-5 yards on first downs I am predicting this is the game that we unleash a few screen plays (finally)....

haha, no worries, it was a lengthy post - but one that I felt was needed considering I flipped from my original belief/statement that we were running for no gain too much on first downs Id still like to see more variety so we dont go against 7/8 man fronts on every first down, but it was working yesterday (for the most part)

thanks - I did classify the runs and pass plays as "successful" if they gained more than 3 yards and as I said - the overall day/numbers on first down did sound good to me - I went into looking at the stats with a preconceived idea that we ran too much, and unsuccessfully as well. But I was wrong, I wouldnt say we ran "Too much" in general, and since it was successful, we were justified in running that much... the issue I did come out with after looking at the first down numbers was A) the runs that were unsuccessful on first down were all classified as "up the middle" (jamming Spiller up the gut - which is necessary for sure every so often) and B) we followed unsuccessful runs with another unsuccessful run play on more than 5 occasions, all but one of which resulted in a punt - that is no bueno...variety, variety, variety I look forward to some more "spice" in the play calling as far as adding play action on first down more (2 for 2 in yesterdays game in that regard, one of which went for a long TD), screen passes - which we have not run ANY of after being the best team in the league last year, and more quick hitting slants and outs....and then we could be off to the races on offense

PTR - by my count the bills had 85 yards rushing on first downs in the first half - on 13 attempts - still a good 6.5 average - which I also noted above and said how you were to credit with the good call on their yards per rush on first down...(one of us had incorrect numbers lol and ive done my math off of ESPN play by play twice now) and i think if you re-read my post - I have changed my mind since our initial shout box discussion and said how we were overall effective with our first down rushes (I am ceding that point to you - you were and are correct) All that I added was I think we can be even more effective with more play action on first down (big gains/TDs as noted above) and some screens and quick hitting passing plays - which im sure will happen once EJ becomes more comfortable and confident I dont know if you are under selling the Browns D on purpose or accident - but their D is no joke and Horton has those guys playing a great brand of D - do you mean they wont be blitzing as much as the Jets? If so, I agree...but they have a front 7 that i think is just about as good as the Jets and will certainly be a step up from the Ravens D - we have a tough test ahead of us against this Browns D I couldnt agree more with your statement about our offense and coaches just finding their way...as stated in the OP - I like what im seeing, just cant wait to see whats in store for the next few weeks

Coming out of yesterdays game, I couldn't help thinking "why do we just jam Spiller up the gut every first down" - and that was not just my thoughts on yesterdays game, but every game we have had thus far....and then I was "discussing" this earlier with Promo in the shout box, and thought id go back and look at the numbers to see if my hating on the play calling was justified or not 21 total runs on first down compared to 9 passes on first down (2 of these were "forced" because of penalties on first down, putting us in first and long) Im actually OK with that number....ideally I would like that ratio to be more like 18 to 10 on runs/passes but thats simply splitting hairs - I think game long, it was the total number of passes and runs on first down was fair - but these numbers are slanted when you consider one drive that had 3 first down passes in a row, and some drives that had 3 or more runs on first down in a row (obviously here though, the offense is in a rhythm so why stop?) Here was what I think is the biggest problem with the running on first down, which is obvious, when it works, it works, and when it doesn't, it doesn't (duh) - on the first down runs where we gained less than 3 yards (there were 7 of those total), we punted four times, had a turnover on another, and then on the other two we had a FG and a TD (both drives started in opponents territory) - so we had 5 possessions that were "wasted" (yes, some of these are necessary throughout a game to set up upcoming plays and drives) - 5 times we also followed up an under three yard run with another a run than gained 2 yards or less (three times getting stuffed for a loss) - so the run, run, run mode had its drawbacks (short runs on first down tend to lead to punts) - but as PTR pointed out, we also gained 115 yards on those first down runs (5.5 average) of the first downs where we began by passing the ball - we had gains of: 19, 11, 42 (TD), 28, 24 (overruled, incomplete), and on the short field drive, we passed twice to begin the drive which set up FJ's nice 16 yard TD run The short: the play calling was slanted towards the run on first down, which it should be - we are a running team with a rookie QB - perhaps we should throw a little more on first down (the results were very positive, although, that is also set up by pounding the football a lot on first down)? The second half offense was terrible (punt, TO, punt, punt, TD, punt, punt, kneel down win) Personally id like to see some screen plays on first down, both RB and WR, and some quick hitting slants and outs that would "soften" the D up......with that said, the play calling was not nearly as atrocious as I had come out of the game yesterday thinking, a little more variety by Hackett and better execution on those pass plays by EJ and the offense could be rolling