NeverOutNick

Everything is going to be fine…earlier this off-season he restructured his deal to help the team. He’s a very passionate guy and I like that. Do I agree with everything, no, but in the heat of the moment I get it and he makes the team way better, so if this is the way he needs to get ready for the season on his own a little bit at first then let him be.

Hope he’s right

With the 41st overall pick in the TSW Mock Draft 2.0, the Tennessee Titans select Josh Downs, WR, UNC The Titans need O line help more and will address it later in the draft but outside of Burks they have no other dependable WRs, and even he isn’t the most dependable. Will Levis may not start right away but when he does he’s going to need a security blanket to make the transition as smooth as possible. Downs is one of, if not, the most sure handed WR in this class as he catches everything and is the titans day 1 starter at slot WR for years to come. @aristocrat and the Jets are on the clock with back to back picks starting at 42

I’m just looking through all the other peoples rankings and noticed that me and you think pretty similar on Tillman and Hutchinson. So we’re not too far off even though you hate my boy Zay lol

I’m doing based on Tiers with no rounds specific at this time because outside of Zay I’m not sure there is a real round 1 receiver in this class but man there are a plethora of guys with day 2 grades Tier 1 1. Zay Flowers - SPECIAL! He is the only WR in this draft i absolutely love day 1. I don’t care about his size and catch radius but if he was built like Q Johnston he would be a top 10 pick. He’s the only WR in my top 5 who hasn’t had a top QB who will be drafted in the NFL throwing him the ball AND HE STILL put up huge stats. Makes playing WR look easy and can play anywhere on the field because he’s got such a knack for getting separation underneath and vertically and like I’ve said in other threads he is a human algorithm for getting the absolute most yards after catch Tier 2 2. Quentin Johnston - I like how he boxes out defenders with his long frame. I want him to be Andre Johnson but he’s not. I don’t know if he’s got that dawg in him but at worst he’s a poor man’s Higgins. But because of his potential and fit to the Bills offense, he’s the only other WR outside of flowers I would take over one of the top 5 O lineman in this class 3. Jordan Addison - I like his has hands better than JSN and he plays the sidelines very well with a good feel for out of bounds. I think he’s got better upside then JSN because he can play multiple positions and has more game changing ability but right now he’s not the natural separator that JSN is with his route running (but he’s still very good at it), and he needs to get stronger/thicker to hold up in the NFL. The more I watch the more I like him and would honestly take him in the draft over JSN but I’m not trading up for either unless all it takes is a 4th or later 4. Jaxon Smith-Njigba - Plug and play but is there upside? The route running and short area quickness is exceptional because he creates alot of space and I believe he can occasionally play not just in the slot but he doesn’t wow me. He’s a solid WR but clearly has never been the best one throughout his career at OSU with Wilson, Olave and Harrison showing that #1 game changing WR potential 5. Josh Downs - Natural slot WR with very good return instincts. Very sure handed and reliable. He’s a quicker Cole Beasley with ability to get downfield and make the contested catch. Earns the trust of his QB because he plays off his QB (Bease) Tier 3 6. Jonathan Mingo - Most potential in this draft class to be a star #1 WR but can a team develop him. Catch radius and contested catches look easy with him. Great athlete and has that hunger that I want to see out of Q Johnston. He’s already a good blocker and has some Deebo in him with his screen game but doesn’t look like a natural route runner. Hopefully this can be taught to him because he has amazing upside 7. Michael Wilson - Another WR I’d love the Bills to take a chance on round 3 or later if there. I think a lot of teams will see his upside, even though he didn’t have a lot of production because of injury and scheme. He killed at the senior bowl. He is very quick off the line of scrimmage, high points the catch with ease, has a natural route running ability that if healthy and if he wants it will only get better and is one of the few wide receivers in this class who could develop into a number one wide receiver on a team. 8. Marvin Mims - Take the top of vertical threat and dynamic punt returner. He’s fast with good hands when focused but not great in press coverage and doesn’t run crisp routes. Needs some work on fine tuning his craft but as a deep threat he’s impressive and for a smaller guy he can high point the ball well. He’s another one where the more you watch the more you like the potential but needs good coaching to be a complete WR. 9. Jalin Hyatt - Explosive vertical threat but for me that’s all he is right now. He fit the offense he was in Tennessee. Where’s the route tree? The contested catches? You can’t teach speed but right now he’s being overvalued by mock drafters and is more of a 3rd round pick as a taller Mike Wallace coming out of college. He’s higher on my list than others because of his speed and ability to make the deep ball catch look easy 10. A.T. Perry - Big WR, who the more I watched the more I moved him up the board because even though he doesn’t pop on film like I want a big guy too he doesn’t have a lot of flaws on film either. He also is a good route runner who works on his craft and that makes him have a higher ceiling than some of these “potential” guys. He’s a natural hands catcher and for a big guy he runs well Tier 4 11. Kayshon Boutte - Biggest boom/bust guy in the draft as he has character and injury concerns but the star potential is there. He show lapses in concentration which is concerning but when the ball is in his hands he’s special. He’s fearless and a great RAC guy and even though he may be off a lot of teams boards I think he is another of a small group of WRs that could be a #1 WR on an NFL team. Because of the above mentioned risks I wouldn’t take a chance until Day 3 but he’s worth the risk at that point 12. Jayden Reed - some dudes you just watch and like. He’s not the best athlete or very big but he’s a playmaker and he just feels like a Buffalo guy. He’s a versatile route runner with good feet but doesn’t get the separation like some of the top guys. He has a grittiness about him that feels blue collar and fights for the ball. He has more body catches than you’d like to see but tracks the ball very well in the air. 13. Charlie Jones - Started his college career in Buffalo so I already liked him from the get go. Fearless and determined. He finds the soft spots in coverage and fights for every yard. He’s not the greatest athlete but makes up for it by playing hard and tough. Not the softest hands but catches the ball well and I like the way he runs routes. Not as smooth as some of the top guys. He’s a really good day 3 WR I’d be happy to have in Buffalo because he’ll pick up the dirty yards. 14. Xavier Hutchinson - He’s another guy I just like watching. He’s had some drops and that’s concerning but I like how he bodies out defenders to make the catch. He’s a good route runner but doesn’t separate as much as you’d like but because he’s bigger he always puts himself in a winnable situation to make the catch. He’s not going to wow you in any one thing but he’s just a good WR and if he can clean up his drop rate will make a QB very happy and live up to his nickname “clutch”ison 15. Parker Washington - First off he’s built like a running back. Looks like he’s got short tree trunks for thighs. He’s fun to watch and I love how he snatches the ball out of the air. I don’t think his ceiling is that high but he’s dependable and sure handed and that will make him last in the NFL as a slot guy for a long time 16. Tank Dell - I may be lower on him than I should be…For a little guy I expect him to be faster but what he lacks in straight line speed he makes up for in shiftiness. He’s actually a pretty decent route runner and a natural hands catcher. He doesn’t have the quickness and not as sure handed as Josh downs is but as far as slot only fits he’s not far behind Josh. 17. Tyler Scott - Looks faster on field than his 40 time. Another very good vertical threat who needs refinement with his route tree and although I like his quickness more than some of the WRs ahead of him, he drops too many balls for me to have him higher. He has a higher ceiling than some of the guys ahead of him because he plays so fast and can contribute early on if a team uses him as a gadget player 18. Cedric Tillman - He reminds me of a taller and less athletic Gabe Davis. Gabe is a better deep threat as well. He’s a solid #3 WR with ability to get to a #2 and will be a solid NFL WR because of his effort. He’s a willing blocker and consistently puts his body on the line to make a play because he is not a great athlete with a high ceiling but is a fighter and I like that even if the upside isn’t there 19. Rashee Rice - He’s another of a small amount of tall WRs in this class and loves to show off his athleticism by making the jump ball catch sometimes jumping when he doesn’t need to but he’s a big play WR with good RAC ability. He's also a big effort guy in every aspect of his game which I love but he’s not a smooth route runner and he’s not as strong as some of the other big WRs like Mingo and Tillman but the main reason he’s so low is because he drops too many balls. If a WR can’t catch consistently it’s a big knock down the board for me 20. Andrei Iosivas - not a lot of film on this guy but from the limited amount I’ve seen on him, I see a WR who runs smooth for such a big target. He’s got some game speed and nice hands and is probably worth the gamble to a team that has a year or 2 to develop him into something. He could be a Diamond in the rough with how much athletic ability he has and looks like he has some nice hands on him where he’s not making body catches I may have to dig deeper into some of the guys that didn’t make the cut but that’s a solid first take. Enjoy

Are the picks off or is it just me? Seems like we went from 35 to 39

Great pick

That’s at least the rumor and I think Arizona knows they’re not going anywhere this year so probably a very likely scenario if they can’t find a trade partner that will take on more of the contract than they would have to eat for releasing him

It 100% does not mean he’s done. It means that they’re looking towards the future of their oline with a lot of guys nearing the end of their contracts and they’re getting a versatile offensive lineman regardless of what some pundits say he can play multiple positions and can develop into a left tackle.

I think they would pay a lot of this years contract in this scenario. Beats releasing him and still eating a good chunk and the drop from 27 to 34 is still pricey draft capital

Have a feeling AZ plays ball during the draft and Beane probably told them “hey if our guy isn’t there at 27, we'll move down to 34 for Hopkins and you guys eating a majority of this years contract” 💥 done

Welcome to Buffalo Mr. Wright! Man this would be perfect as he either wins the RT job or kicks inside to one of the guard spots. He has the upside to eventually be a LT as well. Go Bills

Running up the stage and hugging Goodell as we speak

Take off Campbell and I’m all in for one of those two tackles. That would be amazing if we got one of them.

Whatever it takes, and if it doesn’t cost us that much, let’s make it happen because he’s the type of player that gets us to a Super Bowl.

if it only costs us a 4th or later then fine but if not just sit pretty no reason to trade up for WRs in this class when the drop off isn’t that much. No elite talent outside of Flowers imo and even then I’m staying Pat if it costs more than a 4th…now if you want to trade up for a premier OT like Paris or Jones sure I can get on board with that

This is my kind of topic I’ll definitely be coming back to post my top 20 or so and reasons

Yeah, sorry if it came off like I was being defensive it’s early here ha ha. I know a lot of people would take Robinson because lions can afford to do so but this regime it doesn’t seem like the way they would go having a three-year deal with David Montgomery, and still having Swift, but I wouldn’t hate that pick either

I agree with this take. I’m not sure yet that I buy it that Houston has the balls to not take Stroud if Young is gone but man I would give them some kudos if they traded down picked up some more pieces knowing they’ll get their QB next year in a class with a couple elite QB prospects (Maye is my favorite right now, kid looks special). Houston ownership has to have a long leash in order to let his guys do this because they’re essentially saying we’re tanking for Maye or Williams. If I were them, even with Stroud being a decent prospect, I would do the same. I’m just not sure they actually will

It’s the weakest part of their current roster so they upgrade it with a guy Campbell will love. I don’t see the logic in why they trade away a top 5 TE either. For all the great moves the lions made the last couple years including trading up to get Williams in the first round for peanuts I thought it was moronic to then go and trade away Hockenson. I’m not making the pick based on hockenson though I’m making it based on their current roster weaknesses. TE is now a weakness. I thought about taking Bresee at 18 and honestly almost did but Mayer feels more like a Campbell pick to me even if getting Bresee here and picking up Washington in the 2nd makes more “logical” sense. I’ve learned through these drafts it’s best to wait until they are over to make a full assessment. Let me know if I screwed up their draft after round 2 is over. Right now I’m looking at best player available that fits their needs I also thought maybe there is a chance Bresee falls to the early 2nd again and I can have my cake and eat it too but after me saying his name so much I’m throwing that idea out the window lol Man this made me laugh because it seems so true lol. And honestly I told my die hard lions buddy hey I’m down to Bresee and Mayer for this pick and he’s like you have to take Mayer here

My best friend is a huge lions fan and says they didn’t want to have to pay him the big $ so they got the most they could

With the 18th pick in TSW Mock 2.0 the Detroit Lions select Michael Mayer, TE Fighting Irish In a draft where we could trade down this would be the perfect spot to but Dan Campbell is on cloud 9 as he gets the best all around TE in this draft class. He does not have the receiving upside of Kincaid or the blocking of Washington but he’s an immediate plug and play top 20 TE in the league and won’t make mistakes and that makes Campbell and his TE background happy. You may ask but wait why did they get rid of Hockenson just to grab a TE in the draft. Well these aren’t your Uncles lions. They are a cost effective and future forward thinking group and this move pays off immediately for a team destined to break a 30+ year playoff losing drought. @Bookie_tech and the Bucs are on the clock with pick 19

With the 11th selection in the 2023 NFL Draft, the Tennessee Titans select Will Levis, QB, Kentucky Will is still a very raw QB prospect but after bringing Will in for a private workout and reviewing his film Coach Vrabel fell in love with Will’s confidence, grit and ability to carry his team on his shoulders in critical moments. Learning from Ryan Tannehill this year will do Will a lot of good because Ryan is a great athlete in his own right and is going to be a great mentor to get Will ready to start for our Titans in 2024. @Alphadawg7 and the Texans are on the clock with the 12th pick

Can’t argue with that. Him and Anderson are right there imo. DT is a position the lions and Seahawks should upgrade and Carter is a man among boys so I get it. He has the character concerns but looking at the lions roster and how Campbell operates I would’ve taken the chance on Carter over Anderson as well. Good pick

With the 6th pick in the 2023 NFL draft, the Detroit Lions select Will Anderson Jr, Edge, Bama Detroit was ready to pounce on DT Jalen Carter but is ecstatic to land Anderson! This feels eerily similar to last year where a team (teams) passes on the most plug and play ready players in the draft for potential (Travon Walker cough couch). This was a no brainer even with Hutchison and the emerging Houston already in place. You can never have too many good pass rushers and Detroit is one of the few teams in the NFL that doesn’t have a pressing need and the luxury of a lot of early draft capital. @TOboy and the Raiders are on the clock