NeverOutNick

I do like polk and I haven’t done a huge dive in WRs yet but my early gut call is Franklin will be there and he will be the pick and I’ll be happy

I’ll dig into this more later. I know you do your homework so I applaud that but my biggest criticism is Bo Nix. There is NO WAY he falls all the way to 42. I could make a case for him going in the top 3. He is the most nfl ready QB in this class and has gotten better every year of his college career. He reminds me of Joe Burrow just not yet as elite as Joe as a decision maker (yet…hopefully he can get there because he’s taken huge strides with it since Auburn). He’s got everything you want in a franchise QB and teams know this. Watch Bo’s name keep skyrocketing as media members start hearing and seeing what scouts already know.

I agree that none are a must bring back but if the money is right I’d be all for bringing back D Jones, Epenesa, Edwards, T Johnson and even Hyde if the contract wasn’t bad…the rest are either not worth it or too expensive (Floyd)

Josh Allen… show me the career playoff accolades of Andy Reid and Zach Taylor, since those are the two other franchises that have generational talents at the QB position.

10 times out of 10 I take Campbell over McD. He is the pulse of his team and his team comes out every game like warriors ready for battle. He always takes ownership for his decision making. Hes an offensive head coach and mentored Ben Johnson (his TE coach) so I don’t believe his offense will lose their identity when Ben leaves. He gives his QB every weapon available to succeed. He fits the Buffalo never give up, loyal to a fault attitude. Josh would love him! And he can and will get this team winning a Super Bowl side note- lions have the absolute WORST corner back situation in the league. Sutton and Vildor and all of their backups are trash. They could’ve had 2 easy interceptions to put a cap on this game and they can’t cover worth a cheap zip lock bag. Lions had some unfortunate breaks and they should be in the Super Bowl but I don’t fault Campbell for not kicking a 48 yd kicking with his lame duck place kicker. This offseason corner and kicker are top priorities because they really don’t need much of anything (besides replacing stone hands Reynolds who also could’ve sealed the game for them) on offense…must be nice

It’s almost like there’s just one thing missing to get us to that next level…we should ask Andy Reid about that in the offseason

Agreed. It wasn’t his fault at all that we lost that game. It’s all at the top and on the other side of the field

That’s why in that game quarterback documentary when Mahomes was asked if he would rather face the bills or the Bengals he said we match up better with the bills. Reid knows in big moments he will always outsmart McD

If we have to keep McD it’s a no brainer to keep Brady. He gets a full offseason to scheme properly and hopefully gets actual WRs to add with Shakir. Shakir is a great #3 but Brady and Josh need some young drafted stars in this loaded WR class (at least 2)

We are awful at evaluating WR talent. We constantly pass on late round steals. Justin Shorter is not an NFL WR he just looks like one. Feel like Beane is like welp he kind of looks big and strong like Metcalf maybe he’s the same thing lol…just take really good WRs bro

Jared Goff hands down all day

Please merge if there is a topic already. First off, I’m a big Brandon Beane supporter, I went into watching his presser for the first time today thinking I’m excited to hear what Brandon Beane has to say about what his plan is and to get some truth on what he was disappointed with this year. I came away, thinking man he really took a defeatist attitude into next year, preparing fans for a year of the same or worse. I wanted to hear we have the best player on the planet quarterbacking our team so we’re gonna do everything in our power to get him what he needs so that we can win a Super Bowl next year because that is always the goal when Josh is our quarterback. I did not hear that. It wasn’t the Brandon Beane I normally appreciate. It was deflating and didn’t make me confident in him or McD for this offseason or next year. He doesn’t have to tell us his specific plan because he’s a good poker player but at least have that passion and that optimism to say we’re gonna win a Super Bowl sooner than later because we still have Josh Allen as our quarterback and my job as GM is going to be to give him everything he needs. That being said a couple nuggets I did like are as followed: - He seems to want to keep AJ epenesa but knows he’ll be expensive - Shakir will be a big part of the offense next year - He wants speed and started the process by picking up a futures contract with KJ Hamler - I do NOT like how Beane has a tendency to build up players who underperformed (Diggs, Knox, McD lol) and undersell players who played awesome (Josh and Kincaid) - He got me pumped with the idea of Bernard and Milano and the rise of Williams in year 2 - I don’t think we’re hurting as bad on defense as people think with the depth at LB and CB - I like that Sean and Brandon report to Pegula separately but Beane needs to sack up and tell the truth (hopefully he is) Overall, I trust Beane enough to know he’s putting in the work. I know he sees that the key to “not be sitting here this time of year” next season is getting more help for Josh. Just hope McD sees it the same way and isn’t needling Beane for more defensive toys early in the draft

I agree with most of what you said but this isn’t the guy. He drops A LOT of balls the same way Diggs did. Great he gets force fed the ball in an offense that has more dynamic weapons than we have but they also lost the same week of the playoffs after their QB played a helluva game. Don’t buy into to the stats in this one. Let Mike Evans get paid by some other team and let’s get our guys in this loaded WR draft class. Bucs will also be just fine or even better with Godwin, Palmer and whomever they draft this year.

Praying brother 🙏

If I’m being perfectly honest I don’t think any free agent WR is going to be worth the contract they are looking for. I also don’t see any of them as guys we need. They are mostly big possession WRs that can’t get separation and drop a lot of passes. Yes, Higgins, Ridley, Pittman, Evans make the incredible play but it comes in tight coverage and after they dropped an easy pass earlier in the game (maybe a little unfair but basically true). Ridley may be the best bargain because unlike the others I do think he can get some separation with his route running but it’s not consistent enough. All this to be said, I wouldn’t invest money in the free agent class. Like Greg Cosell said we need to get our #1 WR first round and then later in the draft get a guy who can stretch the field (I’d also be ok with Hollywood brown if he was cheap but he’s always hurt and I have a feeling will cost too much). Another approach would be to find players on the last year or 2 of their contract that teams are trying to unload cheap. I’ve said it before but Courtland Sutton is developing into a true #1 and I’d be ecstatic if we could get him on the cheap from Denver. But at the end of the day I’d be fine going 3 WRs in this loaded draft class (take a page out of GBs recent book) and fill other needs in free agency so that Josh has guys he can work with for years to come

Sounds like we’re on the same page with the way we need to go about our holes. Just wonder if Curl played too well for Washington that he’s out of our price range. I’m on board if not

I’m watching to ensure the empire goes down in a blaze of fire 🔥

I don’t trust McD in most areas but I will give him his deserved credit when it comes to evaluating (maybe that’s more Beane) and developing secondary talent. They hit the jackpot before with Hyde and Poyer and I am sure there are guys in free agency that fit this mold even now (I’ll dig in more this coming month). That all being said I don’t believe we need to invest early draft capital for the position because 1) there are way more pressing needs aka help Josh out (WR!!) and 2) the track record of finding talent later or cheaper options in free agency is proven (Benford, D Jackson, free agent finds Poyer, Hyde) Right now without digging deep in the draft yet I know one guy I’ve talked earlier about is CJ Gardner Johnson. He’s exactly the kind of guy Beane snags. Hes going to be cheaper than he’s actually worth because of his injury this year, he’s young and he can play multiple roles on D. Would I love Antoine Winfield Jr? Heck yes! I was clamoring for him to be our pick when he came out in the draft but he’s going to be way too expensive now. This is a loaded draft class. Hopefully Beane and his team get a couple more picks in the mid rounds and hit on some future greats for us but no way I spend a top pick on safety or really any defensive player when at the end of the day, game on the line it will be Josh and his O taking us further in the playoffs. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2024-nfl-free-agency-rankings-safeties

Then why even have a bills forum?

Cosell is 100% correct

Lafleur deserves all the credit but doesn’t mean his passing game coordinator isn’t sponging off that success. Guy could be a diamond in the rough. He’s proven to get the most out of every position he’s had thus far and GBs passing attack for how young they were was very impressive. Just watch any highlight reel of the big plays GB gets. Those WRs get huge separation

Hope we don’t lose him. The only young up and coming future D coordinator on our staff. I was ok losing him if McD and the entire staff got canned but to lose him in spite of McD would suck

First off I actually really like Joe Brady and think a full offseason could make him a special OC but I’m ok looking around elsewhere. I know everyone has seen how well Jordan Love and his WRs have progressed as the season has went on. The biggest thing I see when I watch the Packers is just how wide-open their wide receivers get and it doesn’t even matter who the opponent is. They are schemed so well. It got me thinking how great Matt Lefluer is. We obviously can’t get Lafleur so I went and looked at the staff and the guy that we should definitely consider interviewing for offensive coordinator is a guy that used to be in our building and coaching our RBs, Jason Vrable. He is the wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator. He’s only 39 years old and if we’re not staying with Brady, we need to check this guy out. Check out his bio. Seems like a great fit and if he can do what he did in GB bring it on https://www.packers.com/team/coaches-roster/jason-vrable

And scheming receivers open. Enough of Josh having to make the perfect throw. How are more than half of Love’s throw to wide open options but we hardly ever get so “lucky”. It’s either because our WRs can’t get any separation or we have play callers who can’t scheme our weapons open. I think it’s a mix of both. But I do like Brady, just think he needs to really get creative this offseason and the bills better go heavy on WRs. Screw McDs defense it’ll be the same regardless if we have great or average defenders come playoff time