
NeverOutNick
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I don’t see him as a #1 but if we take him round 1 I’ll trust the FO. He’s just not my top choice. I believe there are at least 8 better options. But the guy is going to work hard and Josh is going to like that, I just question his nuance for route running. I want a WR that can with with separation for Josh, not just chuck it up 50/50 balls
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If we take him I hope you’re right.
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Your Top UFA Targets for Free Agency Monday
NeverOutNick replied to Warriorspikes51's topic in The Stadium Wall
Josh Reynolds? The WR who dropped multiple passes in the NFC championship game? Noah Brown is intriguing but unless he wants a cheap contract I’d rather just draft a couple WRs in this loaded class -
NeverOutNick's First round QB rankings
NeverOutNick replied to NeverOutNick's topic in The Stadium Wall
I’ve been thinking about JJ some more. I still haven’t changed my view on him as an actual NFL starting QB. He shouldn’t be a day 1 starter in this league. He lacks accuracy, especially on deep balls and is very inconsistent BUT if he were to go to a team like NYG or Minnesota where he has a great offensive mind running the show and hopefully can sit and learn behind Cousins or another seasoned vet for a year before being thrown I think he’s got the mental make up to succeed. He seems like a great kid, interviews really well and strong leader. I’m hoping he succeeds but the things he needs to fix (accuracy and inconsistency) are harder to envision than someone like Williams who just needs a good coach to teach him to stay in the pocket and take what the defense gives you. I will say, if I could place a bet in Vegas, like it or not, I’d bet over 5.5 QBs go in the first round -
Ya if only Legette ran a 4.3 forty like DK. Plus for all of what DK is now he’s still not a good route runner
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Combine wasn’t a great day for Franklin but I’m trusting what I’ve seen on the field. If he fell to 60 I’d be ecstatic. Diggs didn’t come in as the route running technician he is now. Franklin shows a lot of those Diggs traits off the line but I agree he needs to fill out more. He’s young, he will. I do think gun to head I would take Mitchell over Franklin but it’s close
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Legette is a fine WR. He’s all effort with a big strong body. BUT he’s not a good route runner, can look lumbering in and out of breaks that leads to not great separation. He’s a solid #2 WR. He belongs in the Polk tier not the first round tier. There is nothing wrong with that because I’d still be happy to have him I just don’t think he projects to a future star like Mitchell, Franklin and heck I’ll say it Tez Walker can. Mitchell and Franklin are worth our pick at 28 but Walker would be a 2nd rounder to me because he’s more raw, I just love his upside with the right coaching and his buy in. Seems like a good kid too from listening to his interviews
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I can get on board with this. I’m finishing up my WR scouting report rankings now but honestly after the top 4 (Odunze, Harrison, Nabers, Thomas) that will all be off the board before our pick, there are 2 WRs I really want for Buffalo, Troy Franklin and AD Mitchell. I understand they both have a couple holes in their game (Franklin concentration drops and Mitchell lack of playing hard every snap). That’s a big reason they aren’t sure fire top 15 picks and that could be a blessing for us. They also are guys that are so talented. AD Mitchell is a faster and better route running George Pickens coming out and Franklin still screams faster and taller Diggs to me. I feel unlike some of the other WRs I like later, these 2 if coached up early will be #1 WRs on our team as soon as middle of this first year. This is such an awesome WR draft class. I hope we come away with at least 2
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I don’t think he’s crappy at all. I think he’s a hard worker and a good #2 WR but he’s not worth a first round pick imo
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I like the story of Legette more than I like what I see on the field. He’s not in my top 8 WRs right now and I wouldn’t take him at 28. Round 2 sure
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If they have a target or 2 they really need pre-draft that’s fine if it’s at a reasonable price. I don’t think we need to do anything splashy because the splashiness is what got us in this cap hell in the first place. Beane is a master of wheeling and dealing I just think this is an offseason he needs to sit on his hands a little more than usual and trust his scouting department for the draft. What I don’t want to happen is McClappy to get his way again and we spend a lot on a pass rusher or for the FO to be like “look bills fans here’s Derek Henry or Hollywood Brown” now be distracted while we bypass all this amazing WR talent in the draft to get younger on defense for McDoucher lol…the ol misdirection magic trick “ooh how pretty, hey wait a second wasn’t this a good WR draft, what happened?”
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I’m not saying your math is wrong. I understand how math works believe it or not lol. I’m saying your approach is wrong. And honestly from your example I don’t know why you’re fighting me so hard on this lol. You have us taking 7 players pre draft not 10, not 20 so you’re more on my side than you’re acting. Those veteran minimum guys you signed pre draft could be had after the draft too. No reason to jump in so quickly in free agency is my point. It’s gotten us in trouble in the past and I think Beane would finally like to keep some of his late draft picks from now on
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I think you’re overshooting how much we need pre draft. Your example shows a less active approach. A lot of the backend of the 90 man roster comes after the draft with undrafted free agents and free agents that haven’t signed a deal yet post draft. The bills are a team that over the last few years have had to cut guys they’ve drafted because we paid so much in free agency for “washed” older vets. I don’t want us spinning are wheels again. Let’s stick to the youth movement we’ve got going no reason to have our 10th D lineman be another Poona Ford and let our 6th and 7th round picks get released to some other teams active roster and CJG is not washed. He’s been injured but still very young and will be very cheap imo because of the injury history. He also can play free safety and nickel so the versatility is money.
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I agree that you did good making calculated free agent moves and I think we’re basically on the same page I just wouldn’t have invested in McKinney. I stated Daquan was the guy I would resign. We don’t have a “zillion” open holes. We have a couple holes on the D line and at Safety. This is where you go into the draft first. Then after the missile fill with one year contracts like we did last year getting Floyd. So, no we don’t need to be “very active” in free agency early on and with the way you went about your scenario, you weren’t “very active” early on either. You resigned players like Lawson, Lewis and Jones who don’t hurt the comp pick strategy so good on you. I’d be ecstatic if we got Odunze and Jenkins first 2 rounds so good on you there. Even though we don’t agree on the players you drafted after round 2, I do like the positions you selected. Now back to your big free agent move pre-draft: McKinney feels like he’ll be expensive and I don’t think he’s worth a big contract. I’d rather wait until after the draft and sign a cheaper deal for Curl or Gardner Johnson (both I think compliment Rapps short comings in coverage). Safety is not an area we need to spend big money as we have a track record of being able to develop and get the most out of our DBs (Elam aside) Michael Thomas seems washed but if we get even 60% of what he was I’m fine throwing him a 1 year prove it deal although I’d rather just go 3 deep at WR in this epic draft I also like Foreman on a cheap deal if we can’t get a pounder like Corum in the draft All in all, I like the way you’re thinking because you’re investing in Josh Allen, trying to get him some actual impact receivers.
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I would be ecstatic if we came away with Odunze!! He’s the most clutch WR in this class imo and the perfect Robin to Josh’s Batman. Being active after the draft is fine but beforehand I don’t think we need to be players in that. Time to finally build this team long term and invest in Josh… not big splash defensive free agents past their prime. Have confidence in your draft like the lions and chiefs are doing the last few years
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I know free agency is about to begin but I'm hoping we do nothing until after the draft...hear me out Today was a good day. Beane made some tough but needed changes. I loved what Morse, Poyer and Tre brought to the culture of our current team and I wish we could've won a SB with them on the roster (2021, what should've been). Signing Trubisky to be our backup again was a great move and since he was cut nothing hurting those comp numbers. Beane is really going to be working that comp formula to get those extra picks and I love it. The ONLY other guy from our team last year that I'm hoping he brings back is Daquan Jones because I think he'll be affordable (sorry AJ and Floyd but I don't think we're getting a hometown discount for either). Moving on and to preface my thinking I'll explain my draft strategy going into this unique offseason: 1st - Don't get cute. Draft the premier and loaded talent. It's not a safety or LB draft. THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE WR! It's freaking loaded! (i'll send my WR breakdown and rankings later) 2nd - When in doubt always draft the big money positions. These are the positions that you know after that first contract are going to get paid huge (OTs, Dline, WRs, Corners) 3rd - Let the teams with the cap room overspend on free agency early. We aren't in that market and even if we were screw that noise. This isn't a great free agent class for any position we need. BUT it's deep with safety talent. There are so many safeties available and there is no way they all get signed to big contracts early. Safeties don't get paid as much as other positions. We will be sitting pretty after the draft to nab a safety or 2 that hasn't gotten the contract they want but wants to play for a contender Now to the draft. I'm not going to go deep into where I think a player will land yet because honestly outside of the top guys (Harrison, Odunze, Nabers) no one really knows who will be off the board but because this is such a stacked WR draft that's where my focus is. Josh and everyone in this organization will be happy with this decision next year and years to come I guarantee it. I'm going to hear it all day about how dumb it is to load up multiple times early at WR but I don't care because it's where the talent is overloaded and it's what we need most to get us a SB title. If I'm Beane I'm sending McD off to a fully paid family vacation the week before and the week during the draft. I'm trusting what this year shows me and what my scouting department has worked the whole year towards. Get your franchise QB some consistent speed, hands and separation. 1st and 2nd round I'm going WR - You're going to get 2 of the following : Brian Thomas, Troy Franklin, Ladd McConkey, AD Mitchell, Xavier Worthy, Keon Coleman, Tez Walker (I think he falls because people think he's raw but dude is going to beast), Ricky Pearsall, Roman Wilson 3rd/4th round - This is where you get the best D lineman available (maybe 2). If a safety they love and think can compete to start is here that's fine as well 5th round (we have THREE) - Like I said earlier go for those premier big money positions; OT, D line, WR (I'd love Luke McCaffrey in this range. You know he'll succeed, He's a McCaffrey and a slot with good hands) 6th round (THREE again) and one 7th rounder - O line and D line baby and here's also where they can get another corner since this regime is awesome at finding a late corner After the draft we fill the missing holes with one-year contracts to guys who want to win a championship. Go Bills
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100% dude is awful in coverage. He’s a Heat Seeking missile and a good tackler. Not a fan and honestly surprised this is the direction we’re going at safety
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I agree all of this was needed but I hope we’re not real players in free agency. I hope we hit on our draft picks then whatever we don’t fill in the draft we address in free agency once the dust settles and good players like Floyd last year are sitting there looking for one year bargain deals. Let’s be smart this time around Beane
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Tre White A Post June 1st Cut, According to Schefter
NeverOutNick replied to par73's topic in The Stadium Wall
loved Winfield and Clements but at his best Tre was better. True lockdown #1. Winfield was the best tackling CB we’ve ever had though I’ll concede that. -
Man, I just saw this. That’s a classy move from a guy that didn’t need to do anything. Hope he comes back strong to finish out his career here in Buffalo. We all give Brandon Bean some flack when it comes to some of his draft decisions, but man does he shine this time of year. I hope he knocks the draft out of the park because I don’t really think we need to go hard on free agency.
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Tre White A Post June 1st Cut, According to Schefter
NeverOutNick replied to par73's topic in The Stadium Wall
Best CB we’ve ever had when healthy. Loved his attitude and everything about him but I understand the move. Hope he rebounds and plays great for an NFC team. -
Could the Bills be looking at Denver?
NeverOutNick replied to 78thealltimegreat's topic in The Stadium Wall
I don’t believe drops are comparable, I’ll have to look it up. QB play makes a huge difference in those numbers. When all you’re good at is the go route of course your RAC is going to be better. Anyone who actually watches Cortland Sutton knows he’s the far superior talent to Davis. It’s not even close -
Could the Bills be looking at Denver?
NeverOutNick replied to 78thealltimegreat's topic in The Stadium Wall
That's not even a little true. Sutton can run more than just the go route, he gets good separation for a big dude and MOST importantly he's clutch. Dude is a difference maker.