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NeverOutNick

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  1. Even if this does end up being a solid draft answer this question, DID WE INVEST IN HELPING THE MOST IMPORTANT AND ONLY PART OF ROSTER THAT WILL WIN US A SUPER BOWL? The answer is no. While other teams with young franchise QB drafted multiple WRs in what was known throughout the league to be the best and deepest WR class in years, the bills took ONE. We have 11 picks and we took ONE. We traded back multiple times and even out of the draft completely because our FO and Coach think were “fine” at WR. We have one of the 2 best QBs in the entire league and lost our #1 and #2 WR this offseason and we took ONE WR. - Chargers HC, Jim Harbaugh, known for building through the lines before taking “luxury” picks like WR even took 3 WRs for his new franchise QB. - The NE Patriots, who are known to be historically awful at helping out their QB, gave their new franchise QB 2 new WRs in the first 4 rounds. - The Cincinnati Bengals have 2 top 15 WRs in the league and already have multiple solid #3 WRs from the last couple drafts on their roster, they took a high upside WR for Burrow in the 3rd round - Our rival Miami dolphins already flush with speed added 2 more vertical threats in the Washington boys in the 6th and 7th round. Even if Beane and company were content with our WR room it’s not ok. Being content is a failure when you have Josh Allen as your QB. We should not be trying to prove he can do it on his own with limited options. Who’s our deep threat? Shakir and Samuel are going over the middle, coleman has great hands outside, Kincaid will eat and be the safety net but who is keeping the defense honest deep and why don’t we have multiple guys that can take the top off like KC (worthy and Hollywood) and Miami when we have the guy with the strongest arm in the league behind center? We should be overflowing his cupboard with riches and riches of WR talent so we can win a damn Super Bowl. Finally, will a lot of these drafted players work out, yes. But now I’ll ask a different version of my initial question. GAME ON THE LINE, AFC CHAMPIONSHIP, NO MAJOR INJURIES, DID WE GIVE JOSH ALLEN EVERYTHING HE NEEDS TO BEAT THE CHIEFS?
  2. No offense taken. I can only go off of film. Film showed there were a lot of really good WR prospects we passed on multiple times. Most years the list of potential WRs that can make a team better is much thinner. We went into the draft losing our #1 and #2 WR AND even if we had BOTH we would've needed a WR so leaving this loaded draft with only 1 WR, no matter if you agree with my assessments or not, is a fail
  3. 100% agree and it’s eventually going to either get them both fired or Josh will not be re-signing after this contract. It’s sad because it’s ok to make mistakes in their business because they have a top 2 QB in the league. Just take care of him and he’ll take care of your jobs. Stop trying to win in spite of him. That’s not how it works, you win because of him and enjoy the free ride
  4. I hit on 29 out of my top 30 WRs, only missing out on my #30 and honestly he'll probably do well in Detroit. I wrote a quick tier assessment below (undrelined and italicized) and bolded the team that drafted the WR. Some things I noticed were most of my top ranked WRs went to teams with offensive minded head coaches with young QBs and/or teams with franchise QBs getting them more weapons. Some of these teams went back to the well multiple times and didn't even need to BUT because they understood how great a WR draft this was they took the value when it fell to them. Tier 1 – Can’t Miss, pick your flavor, would be the top WR in most drafts and we get THREE of them this year. 1. Marvin Harrison – Arizona pick 4 2. Rome Odunze – Bears pick 9 3. Malik Nabers – Giants pick 6 We had no real chance to get these guys Tier 2 – Late first round - Potential #1 WRs that still need a little refinement 4. AD Mitchell – Colts pick 52 5. Brain Thomas Jr – Jaguars pick 23 6. Troy Franklin – Broncos pick 102 Apparently we didn’t like either Mitchell or Franklin. Could’ve easily taken Franklin over Carter in the 3rd and I would’ve said we had a very good draft but we will soon see if I or our FO was wrong on Franklin Tier 3 – Special #2 options 7. Xavier Worthy – Chiefs pick 28 (we basically gave him to the chiefs) 8. Ladd McConkey – Chargers pick 34 I get why we passed when we did with what kind of WR we needed but didn’t realize we weren’t going to try and get a deep threat at all in this draft rich with them Tier 4 – Potential #1 WRs with HUGE question marks that a lot of teams won’t take the risk on (I would because of the upside) 9. Jermaine Burton – Bengals pick 80 10. Tez Walker –Ravens pick 113 2 players with speed and upside we should’ve went after but the teams that got them understand that their franchise QBs need downfield weapons Tier 5 – Good to Great #2 options that will go somewhere Day 2 of the draft (deepest part of the WR draft) 11. Ja’Lynn Polk – Patriots pick 37 12. Ricky Pearsall – 49ers pick 31 13. Keon Coleman – Bills pick 33 14. Xavier Legette – Panthers pick 32 15. Roman Wilson – Steelers pick 84 16. Brenden Rice – Chargers pick 225 17. Javon Baker – Patriots pick 110 All solid #2 WRs like I said before. Very surprised Rice fell so far, maybe something will come out about him. Tier 6 – A slot of talent, early day 3 guys 18. Malachi Corley – Jets pick 65 19. Ainais Smith – Eagles pick 152 20. Malik Washington – Dolphins pick 184 Speed kills! Unless you’re buffalo then we just say nah thanks we “like what we’ve got at WR”. Tier 7 – Best of the rest, Round 5-7 21. Johnny Wilson – Eagles pick 185 22. Luke McCaffrey – Commanders pick 100 23. Jalen McMillan – Bucs pick 92 - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in 3rd 24. Jamari Thrash – Browns pick 156 25. Jacob Cowing – 49ers pick 135 26. Cornelius Johnson – Chargers pick 253 27. Bub Means – Saints pick 170 - Huge upside vertical threat could've had with one of our MULTIPLE 5th round picks 28. Ryan Flournoy – Cowboys pick 216 29. Tahj Washington – Dolphins pick 241 - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in the 7th 30. Isaiah Williams – Undrafted signed by Lions Last thing I'll state because I can't hide my disgust on how we handled this great opportunity to improve our team with so many missed chances after the plethora of picks Beane used for players that will sit in back up rolls (but hey they're good character guys so neato... I no longer trust Beane. I've given up on McD getting this team to the promised land and know it will only happen under him if Josh carries everyone on his back BUT I've always thought Beane will do his best to get the right players around Josh in spite of McD favoring his pathetic d year after year. This was an epic fail on his part. I don't care about his or anyone's ego. Who cares if Diggs said Josh can't win without a #1 WR. Who cares if you want to prove your lackluster picks in previous drafts are going to work out (Justin Shorter). What I care about is the Buffalo Bills winning a Super Bowl. What I care about is putting as much talent around the best player this franchise ever had to give him the best chance to succeed. And my final point is...Josh Allen is very intelligent. You keep giving him the scraps and expecting him to superman it year in and year out, he will leave. We won't have anyone else to blame but ourselves because he won't say anything. It's not his job to say what he wants. It's the owner and FO's job to make the right decisions and they are failing miserably since the 13 second melt down. Hopefully KJ Hamler works out as the deep threat. Coleman seems like a good kid and will be a fun Higgins type. Shakir and Samuel will do a good job in the middle and Kincaid will get better year two. I just hope it's enough. Maybe one day we'll over do it on the offensive side of the ball like we over do the defense year in and year out without success. Go Bills
  5. I mean if you “like your group” definitely no reason to take better talent 🤦🏻‍♂️
  6. I like this signing but it’s also why you don’t need to take a RB until late. Could’ve used that pick on a WR
  7. Makes me sick to my stomach. They’re giving up early and expect ownership to be ok with it. Just awful 🤮 Beane and McDermott don’t get a free pass on a season when you have Josh Allen at QB or else we won’t have Josh much longer.
  8. only 6 of my top 30 WRs left and none are really deep threats besides tahj Washington and he’s basically a 7th round shot in the dark so I guess here’s hoping 🤷🏻‍♂️
  9. Yep. He’s a fun player to watch too. If only
  10. I hope you’re right but at this point it feels like they’re actively avoiding drafting a WR to prove some kind of point. It’s moronic
  11. The only way I forgive Beane for this awful job avoiding taking WRs is if he is about to get Aiyuk and that’s the reason
  12. Absolute horrendous job. If we don’t make a deep playoff run to AFC championship minimum it’s time to dump both McD and Beane.
  13. We trade out of a great WR class when we lost our #1 and 2 WRs 🤦🏻‍♂️
  14. Troy Franklin to his old QB in Denver, NE nothing but weapons for Maye with another WR in Baker, Ravens never let a good player fall take Walker and we sit back and watch all the deep threats go because hey we’ve got Josh Allen he’ll be fine 🤦🏻‍♂️
  15. I’m fine with that if that’s their guy. McD is still the coach no matter how much I hate it lol…not fine with reaching on a DT we probably could’ve had if we kept our round 4 pick and passing on multiple deep threat WRs that we still don’t have on our team (Franklin, Walker and even Baker). Let’s help Josh out more please. He’s the only reason we’re a SB threat
  16. 1000 times out of 1000 yes
  17. 100% agree on all 3 of your evals, especially Coleman. Really hope we get a separator like Franklin or Walker day 3. Thanks @GunnerBill
  18. That’s sad to hear but he’s still worth the risk. If we trade up and get him or Walker I’ll forgive the McD influenced picks of yesterday lol
  19. Coleman is fine if that’s who Josh wanted as a Higgins type. Heck, I’m even a little ok with bishop because he’s a good player, albeit it’s a position I’d never draft first 2 days unless they were just insane value because safety is not a premium position that gets paid the big money and i believe early rounds you go high premium positions line WR, both lines and corner. BUT to go back to back defense in a lackluster dline draft and take a DT when you have 2 take the top off WRs available still in Franklin and Walker is just nonsense. WR is still a big need, we have no one reliable that’s a vertical threat. The pick screams McDermott as usual. Plenty of teams double dipped at positions of less need than us (lions and eagles both took back to back corners). I trust Beane for the most part and maybe I’m overreacting but I’m just so over McDermott and his control to make his glorious D that never shows up in the playoffs better while giving Josh as little as possible to keep him content. Rant over. Go Bills and hopefully we trade up for Franklin or Walker
  20. Guess we’ll see who is right a couple years from now.
  21. For a team that has no vertical threat…that would be us, the Buffalo Bills Also do you think because a guy wasn’t drafted first 2 rounds he’s not good? Franklin is a very good WR and Walker has pure speed and can develop into a big time playmaker
  22. You take the best players and this year they are WRs. We don’t need a jag DT, we need deep speed. Franklin and Walker were the right picks and they screwed it up
  23. I hate that Franklin and Walker are on the board and we take a DT and then the war room has freaking Mcdouche standing right next to Beane whispering in his ear. Dude go sit in the corner and let Beane get Allen a deep threat
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