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Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State
NeverOutNick replied to SDS's topic in The Stadium Wall
I hate that we passed on him. He’s got superstar potential if his effort is there. Wonder if he made it to 60 if we would’ve taken him over “Dalton’s” buddy -
This is great research and another reason McD needs to be replaced by an offensive mind that will stay with Allen throughout his career like Reid and Mahomes. McD doesn’t bring any value and in most cases restricts Allen from his overall dominance. He’s the coach you bring in for a shift in culture, not to start a dynasty. I’m sure my take will get its share of dislikes and disagrees as per usual but it’s the truth
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I do love his hands and I bet Josh will too
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Would you deal? Treylon Burks for Kaiir Elam
NeverOutNick replied to Kaenon's topic in The Stadium Wall
Shoot if we’re trading for a titans WR give me Hopkins over Burks for Elam -
It told me they really feel highly in Hamler and Isabella because there were a lot of guys that fit their mold of taking the top off and they passed. They may have thought KR/speedster WRs like Ainais Smith and Malik Washington would be there for them later but I would’ve passed on drafting another LBer (ulo) in the 5th and taken one of them to compete with Hamler and Isabella. It was just such a deep WR class that it sucks we only got 1 and then loaded up on a bunch of never-weres in free agency. Hope it works out
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That’s a good way to look at it. Just wish he would’ve used and took someone like Bub Means or Ainais Smith with the high 5th rounder instead of trading one of them for a 4th next year. But Beane will be Beane
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I agree with you on the bishop angle and also on the Carolina trade. No reason to give up a 5th year option for a 5th round pick. I don’t agree with you on Beane having too much power. I like that he supposedly controls the room. You need someone decisive in making those trades and the chiefs trade was fine value if his board showed the WRs left were all the same tier. I don’t like that we parlayed that deal into getting a DT that probably would’ve been there in round 4 over an explosive speed WR like Franklin or Walker. The drop off of those type of WRs was drastic and he should’ve pounced there.
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I always enjoy these little looks inside the draft room. Coleman is for sure a guy we will all gravitate towards and although I hated taking Carter so early over Franklin and Walker, he seems like a smart fit personality wise. Bishop was all about his former teammate Kincaid. Feel like every other sentence was something about “Dalton” lol. Feel bad for Joe Brady strolling over to Beane all passively asking for some speed, I feel you brother lol
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I’d pick neither at this point and use that money elsewhere. We’ll see after this season
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Miami didn’t have Josh Allen throwing to that speed. I agree we need a mix but we are definitely lacking in the vertical threat department right now and that will have defenses playing tighter upfront. Hopefully Hamler is that guy and stays healthy for us. I honestly think the overall draft was fine but switching out Franklin or Tez Walker for the DT Carter would’ve made it a great draft. Even grabbing Bub Means (or one of the little fast dudes like Ainais Smith or Malik Washington) late over one of the 5-7th round, maybe they’ll make the team, backups would’ve gotten us a deep threat to at least keep the defense honest and not smother our intermediate game. Hopefully Brady can make due because I’m happy the FO is making an effort at helping Josh with some of these signings and I love the juice Coleman has already brought to our team, I just think they missed the boat on adding a real vertical threat (honestly substitute Hollywood brown with Curtis Samuel and we killed the offseason for all of Josh’s needs)
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It’s not for lack of trying with their FO and HC. They just don’t have the guy to win the SB at QB.
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Woke up and saw this, just when I was trying to get over passing on Franklin and Walker 😭…Ravens are such a great drafting team year in and year out Tez Walker - because he’s an explosive deep threat our QB needs
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Think you nailed it brother. I wouldn’t keep 6 LBs but McD will I’m sure. I also agree on the 4 WR locks. They need to make it a fair competition for the other 2 spots if they don’t bring in a vet. There’s no reason to just let Shorter have a spot just because he was a 5th rounder last year. I’d love to see Hamler get a legit shot at being the deep threat and would also be on board with bringing in another outside threat either in trade (Aiyuk) or after a few more vets get cut from making room for the rooks. I also really liked Cephus coming out but not sure he fits what we need outside. He was pretty clutch across the middle at Wisconsin though
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Deion Jones signed to 1-year deal per Schefter
NeverOutNick replied to Roundybout's topic in The Stadium Wall
Glad I put money on Chargers vs Lions SB. $20 to win $3k 🥳 -
If we had Hopkins with our current lineup I’d be buying my Super Bowl tickets yesterday
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You could be right brother on Hamler, who knows. But my eyes tell me McD has a big say. He stands next to Beane intimately whenever a selection is made. Either they’re just that close of friends or he’s micromanaging everything since he did get Beane the job 🙄 (I may still be salty that we passed on Franklin and Walker for another rotational DT 😆) Body language is key when dealing with people and when the cameras scan over to Brad Holmes, he’s clearly making the calls and Dan Campbell is off in the distance high fiving people.
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I don’t think Beane or moreso McD would’ve taken him over any defensive player they had rated the same or higher but I do agree he has special speed. Hoping it works out
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Deion Jones signed to 1-year deal per Schefter
NeverOutNick replied to Roundybout's topic in The Stadium Wall
My first instinct without reading any comments is I like this move. I’ve always liked Deon Jones back with Atlanta, so why not throw a cheap deal his way to see if he regain some of that mojo -
I wanted multiple WRs in this draft more than anyone. And I wanted explosive WRs like Franklin and Tez Walker (both could’ve had round 3) BUT I do have optimism in KJ Hamler. He’s a guy I liked coming out of Penn state. I know he had the health issues that Denver parted ways with him on but he’s only 24 with electric speed who will finally have a legit QB throwing him the ball. I’m hoping he’s the vertical threat we need since there really isn’t anyone else available to fill that roll
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My expectations are win the Super Bowl. I don’t hear the “transition” nonsense. Beane and McD don’t get a transition year after multiple years of falling short. Josh Allen is our QB. Hopefully you got him enough offensively to make a deep playoff run or it’s on Beane and McD. 7 years with the most talented QB in NFL history is long enough. Every year is Super Bowl or bust
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Jacksonville releases Zay Jones. Homecoming?
NeverOutNick replied to Roundybout's topic in The Stadium Wall
Agreed we take Franklin or Walker in the 3rd or Bub Means (even Malik Washington or Ainais Smith from the slot gave us a nice vertical threat) with one of the 5ths and we’re feeling optimistic with a deep threat option -
Honestly one of the WRs left in free agency are appealing but at least with MVS and Chark we get a deep threat on the outside. OBJ gives the experience and still has a little left in the tank and I’ve always liked Corey Davis’ potential and even though he’s been a colossal bust, maybe playing with Josh would resurrect his career
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This Will Be The Make Or Break Year For This Regime
NeverOutNick replied to H2o's topic in The Stadium Wall
And this is the problem. They shouldn’t be given a free pass this year for the mess they created and they still have Josh Allen.