OldTimer1960

If they wait until where they sit in round 2, they will be lucky to even get Porter. They could be looking at worse options at CB by then. Now, to be clear I’m not excited about trading up in round 2 because I don’t like the idea of trading both 4ths and I very much don’t want to trade next year’s 1 or 2.

I didn’t mean to say that I would not consider him at 62, rather that it would not be a slam dunk “have to have him”. I could understand pulling the trigger there, but I think there should still be other players at least considered.

I would consider him at 62, I was just saying that I would not think he would slam-dunk be the obvious pick if still available at 62. I would not hate the pick even at 56, but I’d not be super pumped either.

Interesting- do you feel that is because he isn’t fast for his lack of size? I don’t like him at 30, but I think he can be somewhat effective as a pass rush technician- I know he probably already is maxed out.

I am not even sure I’d take Bond with pick 62. I know that just because the Bills met with him it doesn’t mean they are consider him at 30 - I hope not.

What WRs do you think will be available at 56/62? I agree, I'd rather them go DT, CB or DE but I think that might be an easy-needs-based decision because I don't think the WRs there will be enticing. Of course, I'll admit that I don't know what "type" WR they are in the market for. Are they going to continue trying to make Coleman the X? I know they need a deep threat that can beat press and has enough speed/pattern skill to get behind the D. I think for that role that they would prefer >= 6' height and probably 200lbs+.

I'm with you on not being a big fan of Luther Burden, but I think he is a better prospect than was Shenault or Burks. He is verifiably fast, has a solid build and has demonstrated agility/shiftiness. Still, if he quit on his team that's not "Bills DNA". Like you, I don't see any WR who could be available that I would say can't be passed on. Golden is fine and I wouldn't complain if they took him, but I don't think he would help the team more than improving the DL or finding a potential starting CB would. Unlike you, I think it will be surprising if any WR is available at 56 or 62 that is really interesting. Jake Bech - maybe, Jayden Higgins - probably, but he won't be there, Isaiah Bond - depends what CB, DT, DE is there.

Do you mean the Michigan CB who hasn’t done any workouts/drills? I agree that he is a good prospect, but for a CB not to run and do the jumps and agility drills It seems a bit of a red flag. Could be he has a minor, but legitimate, injury but it could also be that he knows he won’t time well. I would happily take him at 30 but I would be hard pressed to give up a lot (likely pick 62) to move to 18 without knowing how fast/explosive/agile he is.

As long as it’s a hamstring and not a knee, hip or ankle I don’t think that this will cause him to slide very far. His game is power and I think there is enough tape vs top competition to show he can play the role of a run stopping 1T. I don’t think he was going to convince anyone that he has a ton of pass rush potential with his 40.

Say it isn’t so! THAT would be suboptimal. in the fever of pointing out that the Eagles used a great DL to beat KC, few have mentioned that the Eagles had a nice secondary including Mitchell and Cooper DeJean.

Agree - I wasn’t saying that I think WR is likely at 30. I was simply arguing that is where you might be more likely to find a WR that is roughly “worth” taking at that spot compared to the end of round 2.

I don’t think any of us are comfortable with the Bills’ WR group, but the value has to line up at least somewhat at one of their picks and they have glaring needs at other positions (CB, DT, DE) as well. I think that there is a better chance that value aligns with pick at 30 than there is at 56 or 62. By late 2nd, I don’t see a WR likely to be available that fits their needs and is better than the DT/DEs available there. Maybe they like Ayomanor or Bond enough to tale late 2nd?

That is a rough time for sure, but still if his routes are good enough he might still get open underneath. Likely offers little after the catch with that lack of speed.

That is a very frightening thought.

CB is a big problem (as you said). I am starting to wonder if they plan to pay Benford and have decided that they need the other starter on a rookie contract to make the cap $ work. If that's the case, I do understand - it's just that there is no guarantee that they will even have a shot at a CB who could be a decent starter as a rookie. Even if they do have a shot at one, what will they have to pass on at other positions to pull the trigger on the CB? Biggest concern is that this isn't a bad CB draft, but it also isn't a particularly strong CB draft class, either.