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Human nature is undefeated.

Yuck. So non-descript.

Do we know the Bills are keeping the exact same offensive system? Do we know if Dorsey wants to add or subtract to/from Daboll’s system or implement something different altogether with his stamp on it? What if the other candidates have run or been exposed to the same concepts the Bills have been running? What if the Bills want to change schemes? Dorsey isn’t necessarily a layup. If they keep him, cool. But the other candidates might have system knowledge too. They just haven’t used it in Buffalo.

I apologize for not being clear. My question wasn’t meant to be literal. It was a rhetorical question; I should just make my meaning plain: the assumptions and angst about the rule, in many cases, not all, but many, isn’t righteous. It’s a dismissive view of candidates no matter their qualifications and a concern that they might get something they haven’t earned, thus taking something away from others who are supposedly, “more qualified.” Tee Martin is the perfect illustration. Many couldn’t believe he’s getting an interview. Yet he has extensive experience Ken Dorsey doesn’t. Many who complained about Martin want Dorsey to be the new OC while dismissing Martin down to Rooney rule as if he has less qualifications. He’s been an OC before. Dorsey hasn’t. Martin has been a passing game coordinator at several stops as well. Dorsey just earned that duty for the first time this past season. And yet... So, who’s assuming and why is about what’s in the hearts of those particular people.

Daboll was Terrible in previous stops too. This is a different time and a different situation.

Again who is making the assumption and why? In a general sense. Say the Bills interview several non-white candidates; which one is the Rooney rule candidate in that case? Two points: One, the hierarchies in the NFL aren’t the most open minded, so while the Rooney rule might not be optimal it’s not a bad thing to make the powers that be talk to coaches they previously would have overlooked, for no other reason than they aren’t used to hiring people who look like them for certain positions. Two, the subtext of the assumption is the candidates interviewed under the Rooney rule are not qualified. Not true. They are men who have worked their way up in the profession like any other coach. Most of this board wants Dorsey to be the OC; because Allen likes him for the position and continuity. Dorsey has never called a play as an OC in college or the NFL. Yet in another thread some folks are losing their minds that the Bills would interview Tee Martin for the job; a coach who has called plays as an OC in a Power 5 conference. He might not be ready for the job or he might be ready, but he has more experience at calling plays than Dorsey. So, who is doing the assuming and why?

Who is making that assumption and why?

That report came out this morning. When I addressed you there was no “report” offered from you that I saw. I also stated that Daboll might like Jones, but there could be other reasons he took the job outside of liking Daniel Jones. I hate to break this to you, that can still be the case even with the “report” you cite. It’s a three dimensional world we live in. Daniel Jones is there so Daboll’s not going to talk down on him. Let’s see what their QB room looks like at the start of camp, then we’ll know how much he actually “likes” him.

Frazier’s defensive principles are McDermott’s defensive principles. They believe in getting a rush with the front 4 which allows for the back 7 to sit in the zones and clog up throwing lanes. They don’t believe in blitzing because it leaves the back 7 vulnerable. A different DC would probably be similar because the head coach believes in that style. As opposed to wishing for a change in coaching philosophy wish for more impactful pass rushing from anyone not named Ed Oliver.

Ignore skill positions at your own peril.

Not the same at all. McGahee’s injury involved other ligaments outside of his ACL. @GunnerBillgreat minds think alike. I advocated for the Bills to take Williams or Wilson in another thread. I think Wilson will go before Olave or London though.

What points to you believing Daboll likes Jones? He might like the Giants owners/organizational structure. He might like GM Joe Schoen. He might like that the Giants have two picks in the top 10. None of that has to do with Jones. Daboll might like Jones too, but there are other reasons he might have taken the job in spite of Daniel Jones presence.

Yeah, I don’t disagree that’s what happens w/Giants. But Allen is built up now. He might view that as diminishing returns for how the NFL world will see him.

Why are you assuming that? By rule they have to interview at least one other candidate as do the Giants. And QB coach to OC would be a promotion. it could be Dorsey thinks he will get more of a challenge trying to turn the Giants around as opposed to being Bienemie’d in Buffalo. It could be he’s grown close to Daboll and wants to go help him. It could be he’d like a change and going to the NJ/NY metro area would be fun or his wife wants to go there. It could be he’s taking the most money. It could be a million reasons why and none are a negative against McD or the Bills. If Dorsey is the guy, great. If he leaves the Bills won’t lack for good options wanting to work with 17. 17 ain’t going anywhere and that’s the person who ultimately matters.

If that WR offers a different skill then he could be a better receiving threat for what the Bills need. The two WR’s I mentioned can score from anywhere with their speed and athleticism. Gabriel and Knox aren’t those type of players as good as they are downfield. There’s no such thing as can’t miss so that’s no argument, but the two WR’s I mentioned have a great chance to be impactful. Have you watched either play?? Again, #3 is not a PT player in the Bills offense.

Beasley’s physical skill caused a regression in Beasley. Don’t be one of these people who think any WR will do. 17 took off when he had real talent around him. Picking one who can do what others in the WR room don’t do is not a waste; it’s intelligent. Took 2 pass rushers last year in round 1 and 2 and another in round 2 the year before that. The Bills apparently like their ILB sorry to tell you. The IOL and CB available at 25 might not be as good at their position as the two WR’s I mentioned are at theirs, both of whom are TD from anywhere players with polished route running skills. A RB who is that player might not exist in round 1 this year (hint hint). I’m all for a CB, DT or OL too. We’ll see what happens. Expects and will are two different words. Bease could easily be gone. Especially if they need money for a different position.

Possibly. But they value value too. Have to keep 17’s shelf stocked.

A #3 for the Bills is a starter in their offense. And the answer is a team that could use high end talent to go along with their high end QB.

I never said he wasn’t. However, don’t the Bills run 3 and 4 receiver sets? Bease isn’t guaranteed to come back. McKenzie is a FA. Need a guy who can take short passes the distance. The receivers I mentioned can do that. And they’re contracts will just be coming up when Diggs probable extension is up. Stay ready you don’t have to get ready. Keep Allen’s weapons stocked. Period.

If Jameson Williams or Garrett Wilson are there I can definitely see it. Either fits that speed McD and Beane were talking about in their pressers.

Ehhhh...😏

Beane and McD are on the same page. That D needed reinforcements. Now it’s about doubling down on Allen. I’d bet money we see a WR in round 1 this year.

They want to be the Packers?🤷🏾‍♂️

He makes people miss a lot. But I agree we can get a more physically imposing back to pair him with. Moss is too inconsistent for my taste. Pollard from Dallas would be a great FA pick up, if he wasn’t overly expensive. He brings speed, runs with physicality and can catch. I look at him as a weapon moreso than just a RB.

I don’t think he’s “so” conservative anymore. In spots he can be, like most coaches, but he went for a lot of 4th downs this year as opposed to previous years, specifically in reaction to the AFC Championship game lessons from last year. I’m not worried about it. They’ll get an OC with a good resume and next year folks will love his playcalls when we win and want him fired when we lose or don’t win pretty enough. Rinse and repeat.