Nevergiveup

I wold not want it to come to that. Just thought it was the right thing to do. That was not a good way to approach the discussion.

After seeing more on the topic I do agree. Also I would like to formally apologize to you. I don't typically get involved in those types of strings. I was literally just passing through for the first time in awhile and was attempting to correct what I thought was a misconception without having all of the information. It was wrong of me to do so and I should have gone about in a more professional manner. Just to clarify because I know it will come up here. I never said it was not about money. It is always a consideration, but not the only one in this case. I am not defending the organization. I would certainly like to see Lee Evans still in a Bills uniform. My attempt to clarify was about the process not the rationale. Have to go, but I will try to check back later. Once again John Wawrow, my apologies.

John. I really have no issue with him. The horse just got out of the barn so to speak. Now some of these comments are pretty funny and tough to not respond to.

I think he had the rant covered. Other people probably have inside sources. However I have not seen any related to the Bill except at the national level. And those instances have been rare. I really don't have an agenda but your accusation makes me think that you might. How exactly am I doing damage control genius? I have not defended this move or any other. Looks like you are doing some for the reporter. Seemed he was over the top defensive regarding a comment from a unidentified poster. Makes you wonder......

I hope it wasn't slander. Sounds like he never said what I thought he said. Even though he never confirmed. And if you want to believe he has inside info it is certainly your right. I just disagree. That does not take away from him being a journalist.

I know you don't want to believe it, but I was not trying to provoke. I was trying clear something up and went to far. Didn't realize how he and everyone else would react. I should have not continued, but the responses got the best me. Especially his. Pretty weak and never addressed the original assertion. This inside info thing is hilarious. There is nothing inside about anything I have seen of his. If I missed something let me know. I hope JW kept enough details hidden to protect his source(s), and suspect that he did.

Man. I need to start posting more frequently. There have been long stretches between ego pumping. You can ignore my info if you want. Some people just don't want legitimate information. That is fine.

I didn;t think there was much to debate about what I said today. Boy was I wrong. I will check back in the future and try to be a little more careful. Just got caught up in the board. Some people would rather believe what they want to believe. Should have known better.

Kelly. I think I said it was part of the decision to move him. You don't automatically move a guy because he or his agent requests to be traded.

First of all I never said it was or wasn't a salary dump. What is wrong with people? Even if it was, it would have nothing to do with Overdorf. I don't know how to be any more specific than that. Salary is always a consideration for any team, but that is not how the deal was initiated. He didn't want to be here. It is young team with no hope for the playoffs and he wouldn't be here when they were ready any way. A 4th rounder is not enough, but they were not going to get any more. Why does there aways have to be a big mystery. I really have nothing else to provide on this topic. You can think whatever you want. And no matter how you spell his name, he has no inside info. That is not an attack, it is just the way it is. He can still keep writing his stories and you can keep reading them. Everyone is hung up on the inside info term. I know how I define it, but you can define it however you like. Someone will catch you up. Probably not a good idea based on today.

Can't give you my name, but my job is post credible information for fans that want it.

Erik. Give me someone that you think would have inside information and then let's think about the liklihood of that person disclosing information to the reporter in question. I know he is offended, but it is simply because all reporters want to create the perception that they have info that you do not. Not many do get legitimate inside info. I can't say I have ever seen anything ground breaking from him or most of the local reporters for that matter. Opinion, conjecture, etc. But not real inside info. Not sure why that is such a big deal to people.

Had to edit. Should have never dignified this with a response. Not sure why I would get into it with someone like this in the first place. My bad.

If you didn't say Overdorf was behind the Evans trade then we have nothing to argue about and I apologize. Regarding the rants, it was one time. I typically stick to legitimate inside information for the people on the board. I should not have directed this at you, however I do stick to my assertion that the media that follows the team has no real inside information. Not sure why people would think otherwise or why you would care.

Or I could just be right. No reason to think that.

He would at the right time. However in his mind who knows when that would be. Regarding Chan and Buddy. Do you think they would get HC and GM jobs else where? They are not in a position to pass on those jobs. Good call. I am off that subject. Sorry for bringing it up.

I don't know and there is probably only 2 people that do. But my opinion, if Kelly thinks it has any value, is that is goes up for sale.

You are just looking at a complete rebuild via the draft. At some point they will add legit free agents, but you are probably at least 2 years away from that. You can only hope that Buddy is as good at judging talent as some think. Unfortunately it is always a little hopeless with Ralph. You never no when or where he will interject himself with devastating results. Less than he was. But anything at his age is too much. OK. don;t stop Billieving. All I said is that if he though Overdorf was "behind" the trade he was wrong. If not, then we had nothing to argue about in the first place. Maybe you knwo more than me, But I doubt it.

I don't completely disagree with that. However the real bean counter is Littman. And most of the truly bad decisions like letting Pat Williams go are on the owner. And it was not as much money as it was he thought he was done. He is just not capable of making good decisions and has not been for quite some time unfortunately. Kelly. I know you don't really beleive what you are saying.

Yes. As much as anyone can when you have the owner that the Bills have.

Kelly. You know I can only go so far. So if it makes you feel better to assume or you think it helps you make your point, I understand. Enjoy your evening.

It would direct it else where, but that was not the intent. I simply made the mistake of logging on today and saw something I thought would be easy to clear up. Man did it spiral out of control.

It is how it works and Overdorf was not "behind" this trade. Not sure why you keep asking. You seem compelled to beleive otherwise. It is so ridiculous it did not deserve this much conversation.

If that were true, it should have been a bigger story. Well stated

Only one person thought he would be a good GM. The only one that mattered.