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5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I think walk. Davis will have 2 years in the system and can take over, draft another mid round RB that year and keep cycling through.
The ONLY thing that changes the equation is if he becomes a real receiving threat. That could make them re-consider. I don't just mean a decent check down option. I mean Kamara or McCaffrey who teams design pass plays for. I don't see Cook ever being that but if he were then it might tip the balance for them.
Never draft one day 1 either.
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12 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
absurd to pay a non-QB that much money
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On 6/1/2024 at 5:25 AM, machine gun kelly said:
I don’t have a NY Times subscription so can’t read it, but I’m assuming he’s underwhelmed. If anyone has context with more detail, meaning a summary of the comments is appreciated.
I’ll say, and not to single out this op, but in general this board doesn’t have great culture of setting the stage for conversations when starting threads. We often get “good article” behind a paywall or “great discussion” and a 2 hour videoa fast summary with a few of the more interesting points is a game changer for me as someone that doesn’t have many subscriptions or the bandwidth to listen to extended commentary that often
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20 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Hasn't been first team all pro since 2020. He was a 2nd team all pro in 2022.
I recall you liking the Jarvis Landry comp-
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2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
Fitz was definitely a good quarterback , he wasn't a bum
He has over 30,000 passing yards... Over 200 touchdowns
More yards than Tony Romo... He wasn't top five guy..
But he probably was the best bridge quarterback in his time... People think if you're not an all pro you suck lol
But Fitz was tough , quick release and always made the most of his weapon's
He's better than a lot of quarterbacks in the NFL
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6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
Tannehill gets a bad rap
he would have been the best quarterback in 20 years pre Josh Allen
We had one 4,000 yards season in 50 years... I think he had three with the dolphins
Not a top five guy... But certainly in the top 12-14 when he had his athleticism
He's a hard guy to move on from because it's hard to get better... Titans learn that
he’s a half step ahead of fitz. And while we all love fitz… that’s only marginally a complimentthats why it was so strange that @GunnerBillinsisted Josh was literally identical in quality so many times for so many years. That he event stretched it off the field to specify that Josh wasn’t even better a golf or magic tricks was super odd at the time.
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2 hours ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:
Their plan to play Diggs in the slot instead? Collins X, Dell Z, Diggs slot? Or you think they kick Dell inside more with an All-Pro Z getting paid $30mil for one season of service?
or maybe I’m crazy and they move them all around a lot
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10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I hated the pick. And in 2019 after the Browns game I was like "he needs to step it the ***** up." Indeed @Beck Water in a former life gave me a ban for it....
I was critical of his 2023 season as well. I think it was the worst year since he broke out properly in 2020. But only by his standard not by standard of the league.
I don't shy away from the times I have criticised Josh. Nor do I think he should be beyond criticism (which he often is here). But the poster is talking about something that demonstrably never happened.
I don’t know, I haven’t seen you prove it yetseems questionable. Are there any posts of you saying he is not Ryan tannehill?
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55 minutes ago, ganesh said:
Great for Jaylen and his family. Congratulations to him.
This is going to put pressure on Miami as they also have to pay Top-5 money to Tua in the coming weeks. Paying for two WRs and a QB is going to put them in cap hell soon
and cheetah is quietly starting to chirp about his deal too-
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13 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
I don’t have any issue with legalized gambling in general, but if the NFL were to ever find a way to destroy itself this feels like a good way. It’ll probably be fine overall, but when there’s this much money at stake basic economics tells us that people will try to find a way to get more than their fair share.
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Not a huge gambling guy myself but not opposed to it for others
I don’t think a draft kings commercial or sponsored ticker dies anything huge to increase the risk of fixing games. I never understood that argument.
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14 hours ago, buffblue said:
Still don't understand why the Texans needed to bring a guy like Diggs in this offseason. Collins and Dell are beasts, then you have Schultz and Mixon. Are there enough balls to go around before Diggs starts pouting? Add in the fact that the Texans face a MUCH more challenging schedule this year, and I can see some of the good vibes from last year disappearing (though I do believe Ryans and Stroud are a stud combo).
you bring in diggs to try to win while you can still make those splash moves8 hours ago, MJS said:I like to see teams be good for two years straight before I take them too seriously. Last year everyone was high on Jacksonville. Some even said they would be the 1 seed in the AFC.
We'll see how Houston deals with a 1st place schedule versus their 4th place schedule from last year. Jacksonville didn't handle it that well last year in a similar position. Houston has to prove it this year. BUT, Stroud can certainly make the wow throws. That's for sure.
I mean that’s 2 out of 17 games shifting -
11 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
Which is the anomaly below?
2021: 6.1 vs. 8.7
2022: 7.6 vs. 8
2023: 4.8 vs. 9
Those are Allen's rushing attempts per game in each of the last three seasons. The latter number in each year are his attempts in the final 7 games of that regular season. The former number are the attempts per game prior to the final seven. Allen rushing more later in the season is nothing new and he didn't run significantly more in the final seven games then anything we saw in 2021 or 2022 seasons. What was significantly different was how few times he ran the ball to start the 2023 season.
What?
If you only care about wins over a month or two and give no consideration to how they are happening - it’s often a fast track ignoring problems that will catch up to you.
as FC points out, we were winning but on the back of Josh running well and struggling in the passing game. Is that sustainable long term or just a quick bandaid?
when fitz was getting every bounce and started with a lot of wins but a lot of underlying red flags, did those catch up for the “I only care about wins” crowd?
yea, it’s one thing to say it about a random game here or there but eventually the other stats matter and if you are winning more than the stats indicate you should- there’s a good chance of regressing back to the outcomes other stats would predict (especially with questionable passing stats)
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7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Are we just going to ignore we went from a long way from the playoffs at 5-5 with losses to losers like the Jets, Broncos, etc...to winning the division and the #2 seed?
The only stat I care about is the Win column.
Wait...you think he meant we are trying to copy their failures? Was that your real response to him? Lol.
the only stat I care about is wins over a short stretch is a great way to not sustainably win over a long stretch.-
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7 hours ago, eball said:
On any given play the Bills have 5 “skill” options in addition to Josh. We can disagree, but I think choosing among Kincaid, Samuel, Shakir, Coleman, Knox, Cook, Ray Davis, and (MVS or Hollins or Claypool) gives the Bills plenty of ways to stress the defense.
plenty as in just above the bare minimumor
plenty as in among the most in the league
Also, how’s that stress looking if Josh is only minimally running?
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On 3/7/2024 at 1:54 PM, Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD said:
I hope he either wins a starting role or gets traded. He's too talented to ride the bench all season again.
I don’t think he’s an all pro out there but I see worse play around the league regularly - and at times right here.
the refusal to use him is… odd.
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12 hours ago, Logic said:
For what it's worth (probably not much): My personal opinion is that the Bills would be JUST on the outside looking in of the "top five in the AFC" discussion.
In no particular order, I'd list the Texans, Chiefs, Dolphins, Bengals, Titans, and arguably the Jaguars as having better weapons than the Bills. So I'd probably have the Bills sixth or seventh. A big jump from Kincaid and Shakir could change that, but that's where I'd have it now.
essentially even here you are saying they are in the batch of “average” pass catchersand I think we can agree that Josh is probably a decent multiplier for what we think of those guys ratings.
the classic is cook-Kincaid-Coleman-Samuel really ever going to be talked about as top third of the league if not for thinking you have an absolutely elite match up nightmare at qb? If you sub Josh for even a middle of the pack cousins/tua type of player at qb suddenly the group is a wreck.
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14 hours ago, Beck Water said:
That is your opinion, but historically, it has not been Beane's opinion. And it's not "just for ST", it's for a guy who plays ST but is believed to be a capable WR backup.
Since Hollins was able to contribute 57 receptions on 690 yds when given the opportunity to play, "proven capable WR backup" would seem like an appropriate descriptor, No?
I mean, who do you think should have been sitting on the WR bench all season behind Diggs, Davis, Harty, and Shakir? Beane has always said, on the Bills, the #5 (and #6 if they keep one) WR has to play ST.The problem last season wasn't that Sherfield was on the roster as a ST and backup WR, it's that halfway through the season Diggs stopped contributing like a #1 WR and Harty never contributed commensurate with the #4/gadget role.
less than 700 yards as a wr is a tough one. It could be a sign of talent but just as easily there are also a metric ton of guys that given the right reps could pull 500-700 yards because “someone has to catch the ball” and even terrible offenses put up thousands of passing yards. -
20 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:
I believe he’s almost certain to make the 53 for all these reasons you’ve already stated.
As far as fans not being enthused enough by his signing, did you really expect a different reaction? There’s nothing about his career up to this point that would generate any sort of excitement from the average fan.
he’s tough, and can play teams, and is a fine enough depth Wr…. And most importantly some of his pay was guaranteed which would be a tie breaker amongst some other similar guys. -
10 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:
You would just think he would be eager to get to know his teammates a bit more and develop chemistry with Stroud.
Is it a big deal? Probably not.
But just not a good look IMO
And for what amounts to nearly zero effort on his part -rehab his image a bit by showing up in his most charismatic form for a couple days instead of forcing his team to answer questions (and him act shocked that he will also be asked them later)
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4 hours ago, H2o said:
New system, stepping into a league where everyone is the best of the best, and new people to throw the ball to. It will take him some time to get used to the difference in the speed of the game, the tighter windows, and getting to know his teammates. He'll be fine.
Ive always said if a guy throws zero picks in practice that’s kind of a concern itself. You can’t be an idiot out there all the time but sometimes you have to actually take the learning reps and that’s by far the best place to see what you can and can’t get away with, right?obviously you want to see lots of success but having zero fails means you probably aren’t pushing yourself much either. There’s a balance there.
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1 hour ago, DJB said:
Remember when Chase couldn’t catch a football a few years ago?
This is nothing to even worry about the kid will be fine
yea you have to be a real jerk to change your opinion of a guy off an OTA practice having a couple errant balls.if you thought he was a bum with major accuracy issues I get feeling some confirmation if he’s sailing passes but…. Pretty complete prospect having a mediocre practice l? Pfffffft.
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37 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:
Time to do away with college football. Carter is one of the lucky 1.6% percent of college football players who were drafted to the NFL. For the other 98.6% of college football players who will not go on to play in the NFL, having their tuition and degree paid for should be more than enough. I am fine with the stars of college football being able to use their name and likeness to make money, but to actually pay these guys a paycheck to play football, give me a break.
Stop the nonsense. Make a minor league system for football and stop giving away spots in classes for people who actually earn and need the degree long term.
yea it feels like the solution was a true minor league and not leaning into universities being premium sports entertainment meccasi get the toothpaste is out of the tube and has been for decades but…. It’s not a particularly reasonable approach to shove these two pieces together under one umbrella
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2 hours ago, Just Jack said:
I was looking at concert tickets the other day on TM for a local show, and it seems the artists/bands can make TM not allow markups for reselling. This concert had some tickets marked "Face Value Exchange".
How Ticketmaster’s Face Value Exchange Works – Ticketmaster Help
my least favorite recent was banning resale below face for an event that wasn’t sold out. Like couldn’t use any other vendor and had to be at or above cost for a GA show… fun eating the cost of those tickets when plans changed-
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Joe Marino talks what the Bills have to do to beat KC in playoffs
in The Stadium Wall
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it’ll be a real damn shame if you are posting this about Josh in 20 years