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5 hours ago, Simon said:
He's pretty rich; it's probably a very expensive computer 🤷♂️
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2 hours ago, BigDingus said:
I feel like this thread has strong "aged like milk" potential. Everyone seems to be downplaying Sanders, myself included, but he's obviously a very talented prospect. He definitely gets more hype & attention due to his father, but we've seen players with famous pro athlete fathers barely get anywhere, so it's clearly not just that with Sanders.
I think the Titans just know who they're taking already. Some people may think they should still do their due diligence & hold the private workout, but the Titans likely want to respect Sanders' time. Maybe he'll flame out, maybe he won't, but I think I've been a bit too dismissive of him due to disliking his father.
meh top of the draft guys are a coin flip end of the round guys are rolls of the dice and after about pick 40 it’s lottery ticketsHe’s not a bum or anything but he’s more dice than coin
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3 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:
Haha all good, I get it.
I would say Cook is elite with vision/acceleration, and he's worked very hard to improve his contact agility (yards after contact). That last comment is a big reason his production, in terms of TDs, shot up.
Just like your prior "season predictions", which was amazing with Shakir. I think Cook can get to 14+ TDs (running+receiving) in 2025 again. His trajectory is upward.
We are hoping for the same thing, keeping Cook. Hopefully Beane finds a way.
in a skill set discussion only - the team is better with cook than most reasonable replacement optionsthat said I have a very hard time with digesting a player we spend 15m (plus or minus a bit) being game planned onto the sideline for our hurry up offense - specifically game winning drive attempts.
I can begin to reconcile our day 2 pick being on the sideline but really struggle with the idea of our 15m back being on the sideline in 2 minute drills in January. Either the back, the coach or the front office would need change in my opinion.
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3 hours ago, thronethinker said:
I for one would not want every Christmas plan have to revolve around a game every year.
On some level it culturally changes the city you are in
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31 minutes ago, Htt2821 said:
Oh no, all eyes might be on the Bills on Christmas…how awful.
/extremesarcasm
mehi get the players wanting to grow their personal brands
not sure I ever got fans being super into it
im totally ok with a boring and predictable schedule. Especially if a season ticket holder.
A bunch of mid week work/school night games and holidays rarely make for better weeks. Yet alone the 14 different networks.
I’m super ok with routine, predictable slates
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8 hours ago, Just in Atlanta said:
Do we not run our own version of the tush push frequently with very good success with exception of the Kansas City playoff game? His aggressive take on this topic is bizarre and seems really illogical.
“it’s effective but not proper” isn’t terribly hard to reconcile-
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12 hours ago, Malazan said:
Some Fans: If xx player is on the team and they don't get an upgrade then it's a complete failure and everyone should be fired!
Beane: We're looking for competition at that position.
Some Fans: OMG, Beane admits failure because he drafted a player at that position previously at some point! How is still employed?!
group of thousands of people often have conflicting views across the spectrum of opinions11 hours ago, GunnerBill said:Did they already negotiate reductions? Or does he mean like clauses about PEDs in their deals that will now trigger?
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I’d much rather Allen throw for 45 TDs and 4800 yards and not have to run outside of the second half in playoff games
id also like to be an even more dynamic matchup problem where there’s not a team we worry about seeing us down because we can use the whole field.
1 minute ago, FireChans said:It took the best year of Josh’s career and a true MVP performance to have our offense performing that well.
Now maybe this is the new Josh Allen and he continues to have a basically perfect season every year, but the history of the NFL says that is not so. The truly elite QB’s over the course of their career fluctuate year to year.
You don’t have to just look at Mahomes (even though he is a great example of how he can basically be a 1 man offense in 2022 and then a struggle immediately). Guys like Peyton, Brady, etc all saw their year to year performances and numbers fluctuate.
So while the 2024 Bills offense was on the whole quite excellent, I still think we saw some chinks in the armor, particularly when Baltimore and Houston stifled our offenses with a neutralized slot threat.
One general rule in the NFL is if you aren’t getting better, you are getting worse. The moral of the story of the 2025 offense shouldn’t be “well we were great last year, no need to make changes.” Just like it shouldn’t have been that in 2024 or 2023 or 2022 or 2021 or 2020.
We should aggressively attack our weaknesses whenever possible. And with Allen being the force multiplier he is, I can’t think of a better way to attack our weaknesses than fill in a glaring need at boundary WR. We have a QB capable of putting up Star Wars numbers in his prime, and while that shouldn’t be the only objective, adding a star or star adjacent WR may be the difference between another 1000 yards of offense and handful of TDs which would directly lead to wins.
plus, it has potential to keep Josh healthier-
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8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
I think you're overcalculating the question marks. Coleman is a minor question mark. He looked really good for a rookie till the injury. Still got a lot to prove.
Palmer is like to be solid in the role they are projecting for him, which will not be being a #1. He'll probably be a #2, whether top middle or bottom of that cohort.
ultimately next offseason we likely haveShakir
Coleman
palmer perhaps as a 1 year guy
i dint think we’d be thrilled with that meaning either a vet (pricy) or high pick. I think getting a mid pick this year is a good investment to reduce the capital spent next year. Even in an optimistic scenario that guy would be an asset but if anyone isn’t at their ceiling a starting player will be needed
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1 hour ago, artmalibu said:
Cooper would have to be real cheep. To fill the last WR spot I would rather see a later draft pick, past PS player, or an undrafted free agent in hopes of catching lightning in a bottle.
The resources are really needed on the defense. It was tough to watch the Bills score 40 points in a game to loose...
id rather a day 2 pick…
Coleman is a complete question mark
palmer is a 2 year deal and major question mark
is be shocked if Samuel is here in 2026
we don’t need lightning in a bottle or a 1 year rental - we need a solid prospect that inn12 months will be expected to be a near full time starter on a cost controlled deal for several years. A day 2 guy is great short term depth and long term real potential
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15 minutes ago, 947 said:
People here mentioned bringing Diggs back for the vet minimum, and most of us said "naaaa". The Pats go and pay him $23M/yr. LOL
Can't wait for Diggs to say that Maye is the best QB he's ever played with in an interview this summer and watch the media run with it.
vet minimum was never a real thing but genuinely amazed at a 1 yr 26mi figured something like bosa level with opportunities to push higher with incentives
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2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:
Can't really disagree with anything that I see. The two things I would says are, and I know you were doing it for fun, but if Shedeur Sanders is the Giants guy just make the pick at 3. Can't afford to chance another teams either between 4-7 picking Sanders or another team like the Saints etc jumping them to take them. If the Giants like Sanders they will take them at 3.
My other one is you gave me garbage for the Packers taking a WR in my mock and then you turn around and give the Packers a WR in your mock lol😁
only thing on sanders is if he’s not totally their guy they could insulate themselves a bit with the trade still-
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7 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I totally agree. I liked the Kincaid pick at the time but not the Coleman pick. For me, I don’t really take much issue with either player. They seem to work hard and both tried to tough it out through injuries. If anything, my “issue” is with the front office continually missing in that part of the draft. The last 3 years produced Elam, Kincaid and Coleman at the top. That’s just not good enough. In those same 3 drafts KC landed McDuffie, Worthy and Karlaftis in the first (plus Rice in the 2nd). The Bills have done great on day 3. They just need to get better at the top of the draft to find more impact players.
it’s been very need based drafting.And in the late 20s it’s hard to snag a specific positional need, that’s a system fit, and has top 30 talent
the draft comes, we of course are amped with a first rounder that matches a hole… but was that guy the top ranked on our board because he was the elite talent left or our favorite hole filler? im not sure how much is revisionist because they didn’t work vs being realistic about why I was good with them at the time
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2 hours ago, chongli said:
Give him another year. It took Eric Moulds three years to break out. Keon is going to stun us all, for the better!
what was the bigger curse, that moulds wasted 2 years before breaking out or that now we have to give every wr 2 years or hear about moulds taking that long-
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13 hours ago, Mikie2times said:
I think maybe two posters know how to properly use catch%. RB’s have the highest catch % in the NFL. It has very little to do with hands (as you’re aware). But let’s be real, Allen was the only guy on the planet that could even out that ball where he did. Your first round TE absolutely must make that play. That was a franchise changing catch and the degree of difficulty was about tenth of the Cook TD run. Our big players need to make big plays when it matters. Otherwise they aren’t big players.
yea - trading up to get a guy like that you expect some big plays in big moments.
can look at the refs not giving him the first or talk about the knee or the degree of difficulty on the catch…
But at some point you need to talk about the plays made too and not just the reasons for near misses
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8 hours ago, RyanC883 said:
would be interesting to see a list that excludes "non-QB" pay. To spend this much without a #1 WR is weird.
when you pay 3 guys as wr2, and your backup te as te1plus bookend tackles
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27 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
Insane amount of money. He had 12 sacks last year. I hear Hendrickson is sending him a fruit basket as thanks.
rookie QBs let you give 5-10 guys 5-10m more than you should.
we should’ve been so aggressive
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7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:
I am not Gunner, but I’ll share my take anyways…I think the issues with Newsome are multiple…first he is a nickel corner. I suppose the Bills could move him back outside, but he’s become a nickel guy. Second he is playing on a 5th year option, so not only is the salary high, nearly 14 million for 1 year, he then becomes a free agent. So you aren’t signing Newsome and Benford. And finally, despite all of those issues with the fit, he will also cost a significant draft pick imo.
The better fit is Martin Emerson. He seemed like a great fit here draft time, he played corner at Mississippi State where McDermott has ties, and he was coming out as a good zone corner. Long arms, a little slower, tackles..he’s a McDermott corner. However, the issue is he is an also a free agent after 2025 so you run into the same issues. I could see the Browns trying to get something for him if they plan to pay Newsome, because they won’t be able to pay Emerson, Newsome, and Ward. But I think a trade for him is more realistic mid season. But I don’t think the Browns would trade a young, cheap, corner unless they want him out or are trying to get something for him before he leaves.
no one trades a young cheap corner with years left on their deal - they trade the guy that’s either on the cusp of walking for a payday or the guy that’s not fulfilled that contract they already got.
I think that parts just a given with any trade target for the most part
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4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Jack is exactly who we want. Great physical and mental make up. In fact, I would like us to use a 2nd in him if there.
I’ve been saying for awhile that if, excluding the proverbial megatron prospect, if you built a bills WR prototype - it feels like bech is pretty close
im not sure how I feel about that but it sure does seem like a fair assessment either way
big, strong, physical, but sacrifices explosive speed to be all that. willing to mix it up. Football family. High character family.
like McDermott would love for this dude to succeed on a personal level.
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I’d be calling the browns about their corners honestly. Getting low on options and I think you would like to fill the hole meaningfully before the draft
I’m no expert on him but have seen Greg newsome as a guy that mentioned as a possible offseason trade candidate, as an example
I’m sure gunner can give me a full work up on him before i call it a night
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6 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:
Too bad for him honestly. His BS really cost him the most in the very end... I ALWAYS THOUGHT he would be able to age well with the sport. hes a route technician, never a speedster guy, when Hill loses a step hes going to fall off a cliff.... but Stef had to be a jerk and scare teams off.... then tearing his ACL at 30 or 31.... weve seen how long it takes guys in their prime to bounce back. 2025 is a wash before its even started.... next year hes what 32? While likely having a sub 500 yard year this year. with threat of an attitude.... while wanting to be paid like hes the same.... nothing going in his favor, and hes going 2 be the last to accept it
It’s always tricky
your body and game have to age into a new niche - sometimes easier than others as you note.
you have to be very lucky with injuries or lack there of
and your ego has to handle a major adjustment for a guy like diggs. I think this is a spot where sometimes being a superstar makes the next phase harder for a guy like him. Mack hollins never got used to being THE DUDE and had to keep up with the dirty work and special teams and being cool with being a bit of the sideshow that can have some moments here and there.
For stef going from a top 5-10 guy in the league to a WR3 only on some teams would take a lot of humbling. I’ve always thought he was an interesting psych study with a bit of anti-social behavior paired so closely with a need to be liked. I wondered if he might surprise with that in an effort to clean up his legacy to be more positive…. but I think the ACL ends it.
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3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
You could probably replace those names with all our own players we extended.
I know that doesnt follow the exact path of your conversation, but it is relevant to the overall discussion of the Bengals FO/Mike Brown and how they build a team (od dont).
To rewind the tape all the way back to the beginning, I think if the Bengals were an organization that, like the Bills, extends players early it changes everything.
Assuming they did it the "right" way, they would already have Chase and Hendrickson re-signed. By having them re-signed early, they would have 1. likely saved some money, and 2. at least give the illusion of being proactive and having a plan. So that when they don't re-sign Higgins, instead of looking inept and like they are always playing catch up from a position of weakness, they could say "we have a lot of guys to pay, we paid all the guys in our plan, can't pay everyone".
Then, with the money they're saving with early extensions and the money they are saving by being able to choose to not pay Higgins, they could take that and sign other FAs.
It's just another perspective on why teams like the Bills and Eagles are doing it right, and teams like the Cowboys and Bengals are doing it wrong.
I think I’m more “meh” than most on the early extensions.
I think more often than not over the course of a career they tend to even out quite a bit in overall value.
sure some risk/reward with injuries vs jumps forward but the classic 4 for 50 (12.5m) for cook isn’t a tremendous value vs 5m followed by 15 per (using bar napkins)
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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:
He certainly chasing every penny he's not a superstar he wants that last chance at the most money
It's a business I don't blame him
ultimately a 9 year vet and we paid him 3 of his 11m career earnings. Wild perspective that a guy that caught passes in JUCo from CARDALE JONES has only amassed 8m in cash earnings prior to last seasonFigure half out the door before you even put it in a bank account so maybe bar napkin 5.5
and even a few hundred grand amounts to a not inconsequential percentage of his career earning.
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1 hour ago, Nephilim17 said:
Maybe it's an act (I don't think so) but Bosa's presser with the Bills showed him to be a humble guy who wants to contribute and win. He acknowledges he's getting old (not many guys at 29 say that) and that he's not the difference that will put this team over the top but he wants to be part of this team and win it all.
I'm rooting for him.
https://www.buffalobills.com/video/joey-bosa-s-first-press-conference-as-a-buffalo-bill-unbelievable-fanbase
the truth is likely that most jerks are friendly most of the time too- he could be a cocky dude but still have genuine conversations. It’s not difficult to reconcile
Trade-up for Travis Hunter
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the cost would be more than a very good corner and very good wr