NoSaint

more screens, more motion, the little underneath handoff… and 16 first half points against our kryptonite ill take it.

They weren’t kicking a 64 yarder into the wind

yea I really don’t get it. I guess lineup see coverage and if they don’t blow it completely he runs? seems like THAT is the meaningless punishment that should be avoided

meh. I suspect going for it was better but going up 9 isn’t bad either.

because not taking any shots also leaves you vulnerable to turnovers? Need to keep to playbook open to keep the defense honest

Screens, motion…. If not for diggs I’d say the offense looks downright crisp. Will need to take a shot at some point but seems bordering on cohesive scheme instead of random plays

Yea, singletary had productive games here. I’m not racing to pay the guy.

big names this week too

let’s not pretend our playbook is so exceptional that we are the only team that can’t generally plug and play backs. Sure he might not have 100% open to him but…

frankly, you hand nearly any of those guys this squad and we are at worst a wild card team

who wouldn’t love a guy that gets slightly above average results out of a squad that’s been elite for large portions of that

we don’t know the scope but he’s publicly said he likes a balanced offense and didn’t seem particularly thrilled with dabolls final season based on comments the following camp we also know he’s had input into the offense based on recent interviews. how hard he interjects is a wild card that we can only speculate but we know he participates and we know his preference

which is why he’s not truly the deep threat that the board once made him out to be but underneath he doesn’t have the agility/hands to be the possession guy hes unfortunately a tweener that is good enough to play in the league but doesn’t fill any role at a high enough level to truly keep a DC up at night figuring out how to contain him. You just tell your DB to not fall down, and you are generally safe. and even field awareness can be spotty. Sometimes you catch him running to weird spots when the play breaks down. he’s the fine enough at everything guy. He’s Singletary at running back, but a much more important position.

meh. I think he’s well known throughout the league for being a live wire that has these types of takes. That he isn’t saying the stuff at press conferences doesn’t mean he’s not saying it to his guys, who talk.

Ultimately, when he’s the host that is simultaneously extending drives every game with plays only he can make - I couldn’t care less about a few turnovers. when we are trying to grind out a slow game with long drives and he can’t run or uncork an amazing throw I like it a lot less. the thing was when he made *those* amazing plays it was almost like creating an extra possession - ie offsetting turnovers. Without that guy, it just hurts.

35% chance we never get the ball back vs much higher we get it back with a short throw is a consideration though.

What do y’all think Dorsey did with his day today?

Had we lost to the giants I’d be comfortable blaming both. Heck, we won and I think daboll/tyrod was our shining light. the offense is getting the worst starting field position in the league. How’s that for complimentary football? neither side is working and the head coach has plenty of explaining to do.

ultimately I think we are fully in agreement just talking about different elements of the play. id bet a significant sum that the play call was essentially verticals, with the instruction that if they come to pick the mismatch and whatever you do don’t over throw it. on an island and a 4.4 guy gets his release of the line - I don’t care if you are the best nickel corner ever… unless you have help, that’s a great matchup for the offense. sure McDermott created pressure but Payton gave every bit of the pressure back with what amounted to a more skilled and more prepared group of players that had the rules in their favor. im not furious or anything but I do think we got one upped on that play by a smart coach-vet qb- good wr putting a decent corner in a very tough spot schematically

well and he’s still working in someone else’s scheme here so I won’t put 100% on him good or bad - but we can get a feel

Are we pretending week 1 didn’t exist?

that’s the thing. Payton lined up his WRs and tod them to go deep. Russ was told if it’s a jailhouse break ID a matchup off the line and heaven it. If they slowed down the blitz at all it’s a TD because we aren’t wining that battle with all 4 corners on an island. In the end the offense knew the assignment and executed it. If it doesn’t work out they have another snap. the real win was anything short that left a looooong kick to either lose the game or get the ball back with timeouts to get our own win.

no one called him a bum. it was fairly pointed out that in the 2023 nfl against a quality set of WRs all on islands without safety help that one of their guys would get a step. Once that happens it’s near lights out as a quality wr will often be able to get that call once they have a step on a corner on an island. Whether jeudy or Sutton - they were lobbing that ball to the one they liked the mismatch on. And it worked exactly as schemed. Even one deep safety makes that a much riskier throw. Zero blitz? It was out of his hands before they even snapped the ball. Good coach and qb don’t have to think twice on that read there.

payton is notorious for calling 4 verticals against that given our secondary and their receivers they pre snap can call the lollipop and know there is a decent chance the DB will not execute on the level of the WR. we begged them to target our weakness with the not unlikely result being we never touch the ball again.

A first ends the game without Josh touching the ball. A blitz that’s all or nothing increases the odds of that first. Even a kick with 40 seconds and a timeout isn’t catastrophic- only a first down is.