NoSaint

if the narrative becomes the bills built the chiefs core it’s bad for beane, bad for the locker room, bad for league wide perception if leggette becomes moss it sucks but life happens if the bills traded the chiefs a hall of fame qb and a pro bowl wr to continue their dynasty - that’s a catastrophe

Ultimately trading back is fine it’s just 1) what do we do now drastically impacts the evaluation of whether the strategy was smart 2) like it or not, if worthy blossoms it could really tattoo this regime/era in a different way than the Carolina trade which was also for a wr. The risk/reward equation is wildly different on a human psych level based on it being the chiefs taking a guy at a position of need for us to use against us in the biggest moments

this year it may be both, unless you are putting a lot of weight on Josh early in the season It is a challenging crossroads

he’s saying they likely have 2-3 similar ranked guys and not someone head and shoulders above that they wouldn’t want to risk losing some of you act like a trade up is just a button you push and not a human negotiation though

no I’m not assuming he is but if he does become an impact player there’s a pretty hefty weight added now

history shows the misses become far more frequent the deeper you go and you are certainly overstating situation if we get our guy at 33 I’m decent. If we go defense then wait til 60 for WR I’m not in on that plan

someone more jaded might point out those were late second rounders in the mid 50s and we are edging towards jumping in that very challenging pool

i think loosely my stance. My posts this morning are skewing towards certain topics but globally this is about where I sit.

it would be catastrophic for the teams psyche if it happens imagine if we get dejean and he dials it up on him!

can you imagine if reporters start asking Josh if he had worthy down the line if the dudes playing well he could tank and beane could get a better player tonight but it’s a HELL of a risk compared to almost any other trade partner

While I don’t agree with the last sentence… it’s an all time risky trade. if worthy pans out that we gave them mahomes and worthy is a blistering narrative - the type of which will be repeated a million times and define this era if Josh gets hurt playing hero ball it really becomes something. Hopefully we land a couple pieces and feel better fast. I have to assume they have like 3 guys graded similarly and are all good sliding til 1-2 get picked and I like that philosophy but if we are tied to kc getting a star it becomes not a little flub but something that changes this groups identity and that won’t be worth the picks to try to overcome

you say this but apparently the chiefs thought there was risk

Yea, if worthy ends up a star it’s going to be an all time historic blunder to keep feeding Kansas City key pieces at our own needs

I would hope he could get a better deal than the Carolina trade

If he accepts it immediately? If not for his ego? He’s on a 45m a year paycheck with huge guarantees. It’s not ego to say he’s not waking up as Ryan Fitzpatrick today. he will play this out and retire with a quarter billion dollars

also I think a flyer on toney is a completely different conversation

I don’t think that is the message

It’s an all time bad pairing of moves to so aggressively chase cousins that you’ll receive tampering penalties and then overdraft a guy at 8

would you rather Mitchell on a 5 year deal plus a 6th or Mitchell on a 4 year deal plus a 5? id probably stay out and knock it out tonight

It was not by any metric. no scale or historical comp shows that as higher than normal value.

so let kc squirm and find another partner, or make them overpay

Then take him at 32 on a 5 year deal

Gave up leggette and a 5th year option for some light day 3 value? Interesting.

To fall back to 33 it better be real value to lose the 5th year option

can you imagine? Trade the fastest wr in the draft to get a tweener corner that can’t cover that wr? id be bummed