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unfortunately, the bigger challenge is that now that we are fully into Josh being paid- the job also is harder. so getting better may just be standing still. Suddenly you have to take multiple steps forward to avoid falling behind.

im not sure anyone’s seriously upset sir perhaps you are the one overly emotional here?

yea, but if he has any desire to come back it does him no favors to go beyond super high level feedback or to remain mostly positive. if he’s totally done in the nfl, it could be a lot more interesting

their talking heads are excellent honestly

yea the only question will be how real he’s willing to get with it. On the surface, great concept though,

prototypical WRs? tyreek, diggs, Wilson, lamb, Adams, brown, Jefferson, chase, Moore, Evans, aiyuk, Amon ra, DK, waddle… the rookies this year are very prototypical not sure how deep you want to go with impact WRs…. Nico, Pittman, Devonta, Higgins, Hopkins etc…

it’s why you can’t let them sit for years. They are basically past all the perks of the rookie contract

my hope is that just making the playoffs will also be a footnote when this Allen story is all done. lets all keep fingers crossed that the last 5 years are the low point and not the high point of the decade. If Allen walks out with 2 rings, and a bunch of iconic moments- an mvp- I don’t think we will be in canton talking about diggs as more than a passing comment. if Josh has peeked and has a sudden drop, yea, diggs will occupy more space in the story

he’s going to be more TO than reed in the memories. He was a hired gun for a short stretch not guy that bled team colors. doesn’t mean he’s disliked, he’s just a footnote in the family history and not the main story.

about where I am at too - well said

the unfortunate truth: they are a bit of a crapshoot after the initial high end guys in the class. It speaks to Keon not being a slam dunk star- though I think he will be relatively productive

between the comparisons between shakir and kupp, and now belief that Keon will be WR1, I’m scared to see what I’ve missed you saying about Samuel.

It’s the poor man’s 49ers at the skill positions. not wild to see deebo-aiyuk as the premium Samuel-shakir, right? Kittle/kincaid is probably the least “poor man” comparison While I like cook, no cmc but they’ve dabbled in that usage the flip side is we have Josh instead of purdy so we are the aged out of a rookie qb deal version of it. Does that work? Probably most weeks. Does it beat the jags-bengals-chiefs-49ers in consecutive weeks after new years? Not impossible but I’d sure feel better with one proven matchup problem at outside WR

if you were drafting a guy long term, maybe you pick Keon. for a game this weekend probably less enthusiastic about that WR1 status for Keon

the Brady point being that there are exceptions to rules, but it’s not fun betting the house that you will also be the exception.

someone, maybe multiple, should have career production years- we will have a certain level of passing production and SOMEONE will catch those passes. will those guys be playing better than they previously have, or will they just be getting volume? That answer will go a long way to defining our offense Brady was drafted in the 6th but is it your business model? also, Watson would be wr1 here also, also, when did their season end?

yea, like I said, top 30 really tough, top 40 with work, right? And I think just yards is a tough metric to rank guys on solely. You know, injuries, poor qb play, incoming rookies. We project his best stretch to 17 healthy games with a top qb but probably a handful of other guys would push up if you did the same. if you just take a list of the top 100 wrs and start sorting ours… it gets hard to push anyone above 40. A few places I’ve seen start our best one around 50, which is basically dead center of the WR2 group (I’ve never thought 45 vs 55 is any real distinction for instance)

so the challenge here: not an insult as I believe both have talent and a spot in the league but… which of shakir and Samuel do you consider a top 30 wr? Honestly, pen to paper are either confidently top 40? It’s hard to get them there. if we don’t have a top 40 guy we are talking average WR2 for our top WR? Unless Keon plays much better than the 8th picked WR should, we are looking at a rough overall room.

its wild to watch him argue definitions but have it fly by him that you can state that someone factually has a stated opinion on the subject. that he ranked them 28 is a fact. That opinion was derived from whatever analysis he made of the various groups.

with average health, they’d instantly be top tier Super Bowl contenders if they add him

By 98 yards you mean like 250?

in 9 games he had 6 carries and 5 catches. I’m not sure you can put any stock into any outcomes of his touches though he did average 10 yards a catch in those 5 plays so I’m particularly stumped by the narrative you gave

truly a puzzling spot. and we are all here because we like to figure out the why/how hit this one was a real struggle. he had the talent to be on the field are we to believe he couldn’t pick up a few packages a week? or did the coaching staff believe anything short of the playbook being 100% wide open with him on the field was unacceptable? but Dorsey is in Cleveland which makes it all the stranger

At this point? Very little and a lot of incentives. probably not worth the headache here but there may be a team out there that appreciates a reliable short yardage contested catch option. hard to think he will age gracefully though, given his current lack of self awareness

I do not believe the coach gets that duty on his own in pretty much any building The roster building implications of long term keepers and cap implications certainly trace back to the GM