NoSaint

Truly we have never been in all that bad of a situation.

We weren’t that good last year, and won’t be that bad next. In the proposed trade we get our qb, a first round LB keep a second and two third rounders. And that’s before free agency. I don’t think we are going to the playoffs with a rookie but I don’t think we are a train wreck

A first rounder is starting for us day 1 almost 100% no matter the rest of the depth chart If we sign Moore and don’t take a guy in the first.... again, I’ll suggest Beane start contemplating his own future.

As a GM If your first rounder is sitting inactive behind Moore and peterman you might want to start working on a resume ————— now I will say I don’t think we are chasing a costly vet to pair with a rookie. Tyrod was that option. So someone like Moore is the alternative that now makes sense.

Why oh why would you not just put our pick and the trade up cost? Spoiler: we get Rosen and use 21, a 2nd, next years 1 and cordy (and swap some other picks) At 22 Vander Esch I don’t see a huge gap in 22 vs next years in the package. I’m fine adding the talent this year. We could get an impact player in the front 7 that we need badly

Some of y’all are dramatic that said, I’d keep him at 8m

And if they let them walk in free agency it must be worse. and you can’t really like guys that people pass on in the draft. really there are very few acceptable player acquisitions each year.

No one thinks it’s automatic. It’s just a hell of a lot easier to talk a team with a qb into trading back when there is a qb on the board compared to getting a qb needy team to pass.

Summary: bills doctors told Jordan Matthews that his knee injuries were poorly handled by eagles and he was lucky bills caught the problem

For tackles a few things Its a position that hurts to play every single snap and that both wears guys down mentally but leaves them playing beat up physically which causes inconsistency and short windows where they can be explosive its a position that requires an incredibly rare body type so you pay a premium simply because the guy rarely exists Often they are guided into the sport not because they love it but because people think “wow you are huge you have to play” also fans are often poor judges of interior line play impact - even when impactful they aren’t as flashy as you’d see from 16m at other positions As you can carry unused money over there’s essentially no downside to pushing hits later as long as you are disciplined in your spending. It’s a zero interest loan essentially to use the June 1 designation

Or they just enacted it and are allowing renewals but not new sales its silly, as they can in large part track transfers though. See Denver revoking a bunch last year(?)

Essentially verbatim what I was about to type before seeing your post

If the eagles pass on a 1st for a 1 year backup they are crazy all their players are about to get super bowl bumps in their pay checks and you need picks to back fill mid tier starters cheaply when you let guys walk

They are a bar napkin measure. If you are down a couple scores you need to start getting some chunk yardage in the air. Win or loss the ball moving is indicative of giving your team a shot. When we were down several scores late in the saints game and Tyrod was still checking down and not pushing downfield I became much more worried about his future.

It might be a less in the mid rounds as we haven’t gotten those guys in rounds 2-4 often but having spent 4 1st rounders (soon to possibly be 6) in 20 years isn’t wildly out of line with anyone chasing a qb. I don’t think anyone says “wow this guy had 7 and that guy only had 5– he’s obviously much worse” But “this guy plays from behind and can’t strap the team on his back to be competitive when needed” can surely be a commentary when a guy has essentially none and others do it with regularity

The ones that our scouting department likes, and by aggressively targeting them with the proper industry standards. Im not upset by his presence but I do not think he adds anything to the process and may in fact detract from it though.

In that 20 years we selected EJ but also JP, and traded for drew.... and that’s all in the heels of trading for rob Johnson. Weve spent draft resources. Just poorly.

I’ve got to ask— specifically what do you love that you think he adds to the research?

thats not the highest standard

If we trade up to 17 for a project I’ll be less excited than if we go up for a top prospect its its hard to lump those two situations together for your argument

Obviously. And we could move to 3! but you get the concept of what he was saying

I doubt that for the overwhelming majority. At least with serious stuff like heart issues. Concussion, risk to ligaments etc... sure, they might bend the standards... but spine, heart are life threatening. More likely the evaluations are a bit less thorough and ultimately some of these conditions aren’t a black and white issue to diagnose.

But ultimately, Beane isn’t the bread winner in my house so if he gets fired and in 3 years someone else takes a swing... big deal? Im not pointing this one at you but there seem to be some posters that are scared that if we miss we are about to start another decade without a chance at the playoffs. It’s not ideal but it’s not the end of the world as long as you are willing to move on from the bust

The giants literally won the Super Bowl with their “nascar” package that featured edge rushers moving inside. That’s how they beat the patriots, who Miami plays twice every year. Again, not a franchise changing move here in my opinion but not crazy either

To be fair, I’ll again point out I never discussed QB in those posts... but if you want me to, I’ll bite... Yes, top QBs often bust. It’s the toughest position to transition and they often land with talentless disfunctional franchises. know what also sucks? Drafting guys that are second to third tier qb prospects. But, again, only putting the success rates of guys in the top 5 and not having a comp point for guys taken later (say day 2) makes that hard to discuss as I pointed out. Yes- going out and making a move might be the end of Beane but surely not crippling for the franchise. We just cut/traded/didn’t re-sign every day one and two pick made across 4-5 years and still made the playoffs.