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I think acknowledging he didn’t know the game, didn’t study the game and left himself completely unprepared is quite a bit of that. Noting that the team somehow missed that and didn’t do much to fix it is also (as far as we know) part of the story. Not a perfect quote or something you are dreaming to see but in the context of where he may be it isn’t that unreasonable i was one of his harshest critics, but would tap the breaks before blowing this out of proportion

Right but when it won you a heisman and got you picked in the first do you think you have to change? The browns shouldve known who he was and planned accordingly. Similarly - if considering him now you need to expect a learning curve on and off the field. You have to build a support system.... but if paying 180m to a roster what’s a couple bucks for some specialists to devise customized plans for guys

Did you expect a guy with 25 years of baggage to sober up and not be a bit clumsy at times? ignoring the finer points of HIM as we don’t actually know any of them.... you can’t expect immediate perfection out of guys like this.

Why would you do that?

A tweet like that sure will start the rumor mill

What do you want to hear from him? “I suck and should probably sell cars” isn’t a reasonable expectation

I’ll even say it concerns me he couldn’t get that power if I’m evaluating his skill set... if you can’t get bosses to empower you that can be an issue from both ends... but yea- outside of qb it was an incredibly talented roster for how often we changed philosophy without him picking the coaches

Because you wouldnt simply look look at who is the best at playing qb today nor would you only using today’s metrics . The context would be their impact in their own era. Not who is most well known at this moment. A guy could be hugely controversial 40 years ago but not well known by kids today.

When you can’t pick the coach you can’t set the vision.... all you can do is stock talent

That graham trade also netted max unger- a high quality player

Im sure they have some idea... but what if a curveball happens? Come draft day what if NE offers up a massive package? Or the QBs slide more than expected? Or you have a deal roughly in place for 3 and the jets jump in for example? spending time with guys that you think will be big time players is always productive on some level

Plus you could see him at a division rival and it’s not terrible to have extra insight and you can ask him questions about both teammates and opponents during the visit

They could be all in on trading up and still get stuck without a partner. Or the QBs could slide more than expected and allow them to keep 22. it would be irresponsible to only look at the top QBs even if they are your plan

He’s turning 41 in camp - obviously it’s near. that said - I can’t imagine him walking this late in the offseason. It would have to tarnish his reputation to pull the rug out from under the team days before the draft instead of having the discussion in February

The beauty of speed outside (and all over really) is separation— TT wasn’t throwing tight windows but he wasn’t terrible if there were enough guys putting pressure on the defense. With all those and his own legs he wouldn’t need to be a great passer to lead an explosive offense. Can TT be a franchise qb and can TT be a part of an offense that puts up points can be two different questions.

It’s no doubt a factor. its also why we shouldn’t fret that missing will set us back 20 years like some seem to fear. Even with a trade up we will have a pretty full set of picks to make and we can take another swing at qb pretty darn soon if it’s a miss. Because we spend less cash on him we will likely have to spend a bit more in picks but by essentially trading lattimore for Tre white and a first we got a painless way to do make up a big part of the draft equity

He’s a schmuck but he’s talented. If we could’ve kept a core of Sammy, Percy, clay and McCoy together and healthy for a season — that offense could’ve been pretty exciting. edit to add — roll in that our depth at wr was woods and Goodwin.... amazing how quick these units change. Not just personnel but the complete and total skill sets

Ah - I get what you meant now. Makes sense

Which do you swap? I only have mayfield higher than Rosen because I think they are more likely to land at 4-6 than 2

40 - mayfield 30 - rosen 20 - allen 5 - Jackson 5 - field i think they aggressively try to move up, it’ll be a challenge to get to the top but settle for a physical specimen if they can’t get a top tier passer. I don’t think they get a low ceiling high floor guy. It’ll be high ceiling passer or high ceiling athlete as plan b

Being able to move in the pocket sure can help. Because of his height he will have to be a little better at another skill to break even with a guy with the gift of being a little taller. thats all.

We have more (volume) premium picks than anyone. Even after a monster trade we are simply back to average volume of picks

Thats the thing- I even messed up my advice in saying skip instead of advising to guess wildly when you don’t know. You still doubled your score If you knew this was part of a major job interview and you didn’t take a few minutes to learn the basics, that’s as much a red flag as anything else. If a guys sharp and scores in the teens on his official test- is he the type that’s first in and last out studying film? At that point I’d rather learn the guys dyslexic or has something we can learn to accommodate than that he’s too lazy or out of touch to spend 30 mins prepping on the basics of a test

Just skip the ones you don’t immediately know and don’t even worry about the going back factor. I bet your score goes up if you pace yourself properly for seeing close to 50 questions, but only answer those you immediately know or can get with quick work (under about 10-15 seconds). Ultimately getting 20 out of 47 is MUCH better than 13/15 (or even 15/15)

I cant see the locker room liking that even if it helped our talent level - would take some serious coaching work.