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You laugh but as he can’t be tagged and has played hard ball with the saints before I wouldn’t be shocked if he ended his career like manning. Doubt he would consider playing in the elements though (generally speaking I think he stays put though)

Bingo. Dream offseason something like this: free agency add an impact player to the d line, and a steady vet at wr and lb. literally any cheap rb. If we can package 21 and next years 1 for a qb, impact lb at 22 then WR and a defensive lineman day two and rb at the end of day two or early day 3 Gaines/what to do at CB2 is the only thing left open at that point. Maybe the extra day two pick

I wasnt truly ranking them but essentially calling for two guys that can compete at a high level. I don’t think we add an elite vet as we are probably paying Benjamin so I picture 2-4 being role players next year with hopefully zay or the (likely day 2) rookie stepping up long term in that scenario

This. I think ala Stevie he’s another low end number 1 but good number 2. He comes with limitations and that’s before knee questions. Comparing him to Larry Fitzgerald (a top 2-3 talent for a long stretch) is unfair to both guys. I think Matthews walks (hopefully a comp pick down the line) and we add a low-mid vet with speed and a day 2 wr benjamin zay vet with speed rookie who has a full skill set thompson and maybe one of those guys or a late draft pick takes over return duty at 6

The house is on fire and you are pointing out that the carpet has some wear and tear. No ones particularly disagreeing with you. You just are being obnoxious about taylor as you have been all year. We are getting out of the house instead of suffocating with you.

Bingo. Brandon thorn? Dudes bio is pretty slim.

Which of those guys touches the ball every snap and gets a $15m check? You’re instead focusing on the third string TE. Is our third string considerably out of line with his peers, and if he is does it considerably effect the team? Now ask the same for Tyrod compared to playoff QBs.

We scored 3 points in a high octane pass happy Nfl. That happened 3 times this season (4 if you ignore a trash time TD by our backup qb vs the saints) thats HORRIFIC. Essentially 1 in 4 games this season we scored 3 points.

He threw the under and a loss. I don’t think you get to call anyone out this week

It’s easy to make people look good on paper today. Odds are we stay mid range and are a coin flip to get in depending on QB Play, turnovers, and health at key positions

McDermott hired an OC that didn’t mesh with his QB by definition I can’t say he got the most out of the talent when he didn’t maximize the most important position. Thats not to say he is awful but I don’t think he optimally handled the season either

I don’t mind peterman but peterman fans can at times be really hard to put up with

Weve seen enough of smith to say he’s probably not a top ten guy suddenly. He’s a decent, not great, option but much like fitz or Tyrod, or Orton, or... any of a bunch of journeyman type of guys— you hope you catch their good stretches while you look for a replacement.

Among the best run schemers in the league low end on the passing scheme but because he creates pressure with the run it masks that some seemed poorly organized running the offense (getting plays in, for instance)

Or up and coming position coaches or OCs where the head coach is offensive (like the saints, for instance) and theOC might want to distinguish themselves

Looks like taylor is too though. truly it’s an argument of 19th vs 22nd in the league (arbitrary numbers).... not a big gap, so pick the better fit with the system. I have a hard time seeing Taylor as the better fit. I also think he smith would’ve taken 1-2 more shots for better or worse. Losing by more doesn’t hurt so maybe we win it he hits one.

It was found that he had previously.... did he again? Your guess is as good as mine- but we’d be guessing

Whys that?

Im certainly not accusing him of being well spoken and highly nuanced here- just spitballing what he may have been getting at instead of jumping to insulting him though im sure he will likewise elaborate on that half too so I’ll only speculate so much

Or 30% of black players aren’t of African heritage? It’s maybe possible the alleged comment was about Africa, and not just being black so he was calling out that aspect clumsily in his tweet

Agreed that it’s offputting reading the thread. Maybe he said something - maybe he didn’t. Or maybe it was something on edge. With Ngakoue being such a name, it’s not crazy to think maybe Ritchie made an off color comment about Africa in a chippy game. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t... but I’m embarrassed about how quick some are to attack Ngakoue before either he or Ritchie have been asked about it

Yup. I don’t think there’s a need to rush here. I’m sure we will hear interviews with both parties and teammates pretty darn soon and learn more about the accusations

Im guessing it’s an obvious flop in his wording though maybe some aren’t African heritage and he’s acknowledging 30% of black players are of non-African descent?

Hes a big boy— I’d say given his history he should come out and deny it before we go to bat for him. I won’t tear him down first either... but this isn’t waaaaay out in left field at the moment. We will see where it goes.

Would we really be shocked hearing 64 saying offensive stuff on or off?