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Theres a difference between an addict and simply not caring

The funny thing is, it would 100% happen naturally but no harm in them spearheading it

I recall when VY was so untrusted withgame situations and reads that he couldn’t audible and was not allowed to call timeouts without permission from the sideline I’ll contend that TT has major pre snap issues too and was often untrusted by coaches

I dunno - those two from Cleveland would be mighty appealing, and the points work out: 4+1=5 get Russ on the phone we need to get ahead of this

Yea but for the first time in 20 years we’ve caught up to league trends. Chan and buddy would’ve been talking about the process 3 years from now....

It would seem to be a pretty good mistake by the giants. Youd be giving the guy top 5 money at his position fully guaranteed. At what point do you just get a top vet in free agency or via trade of any lower pick. To pass on a package of 3 firsts would be terrible even if barkley is excellent

Its simple math really

He’s 100% right

So maybe don’t tear down all the buildings the first morning if you can’t start rebuilding them by night? Or some other goofy cliche...

Best case scenario his mom didn’t prep him properly.... and if you read that 3 times and think it’s not worrisome i don’t know what to tell you. worst case is he’s either very low IQ, has a noteworthy learning disability (not insurmountable) or just didn’t care. i know you make up your mind and dig in til the bitter end no matter what comes out.... but this is a major red flag and a team needs to be able to answer why it happened and why it won’t happen in their system before taking him. Some might believe they have it, and others may not care... but any good GM needs to know both answers to pull that trigger. Sorry to call you a bad gm John.

Do you really think theres zero red flag with that score?

You think it’s his last year and they should limit his touches in the biggest moments and you are giving it some thought? For pick 32 you trip over yourself to sign the paper and fax it in twice just to be safe.

Which is fine for some guys... but some truly seemed “we’re doing this 100% on our own” ragland might’ve been a guy they were too eager to turnover from the old regime as his contract was peanuts and talent better than most similarly priced guys.

Most of my questions don’t even pertain to the fight.

Decided not to go through with making another account?

Whatever the driver - that 10 months from now we might have 100% flipped the roster is astonishing. Especially given the gm that led last offseason included hiring the new coach. Did McD tell pegs that his evaluation of the roster was so poor that he’d need 53 new faces in 2 offseasons? all that’s left on offense today are miller, mills, McCoy clay and O’Leary defense has Kyle, Hughes, zo, Shaq and Washington. Its possible not one makes 2019 I agree it’s silly to think it’s spite but it’s amazing to see how little survived

But in a very scheme specific role. He’s be great as a thumper under schwartz for instance but not so much sideline to sideline for us. for a blow off pick though - I’d take 3 years of him in goal line or “and short” packages and think he’d still be better than most league minimum backups in case of injury despite scheme challenges...

Even if not a fit as a starter, I probably would’ve kept him as a package player on that cheap contract and realistically Little trade compensation but not a huge deal

The flip side is what if we were a 6-7 win team last year that was lucky with bounces and health and such.... the gap from 3 or so wins to 9 wins can be a McCoy ankle, tre white knee and not getting a call like the Marty ice fumble. Roll in questions at qb and who knows where we go

If that’s how you feel why are you linking it?

Not what I would hope to see.... but will admit that there would be a small part of me that enjoyed the 5th grade class getting it right

The cap hits if traded are essentially 6 flat with no guarantees. A little above average starter money with far below average commitment. The pick is the biggest issue honestly.

And fully guaranteed

Not trying to change your mind, but for discussion sake... at that point 2 years of shady with no guarantees vs 4 years of Barkley fully guaranteed with both at the same pay rate.... the pick gets you a little longevity but with a pass rusher or corner or... it saves you $10m a year in cap space that can be spent on addition barkley looks like a great player but the structure of pay slotting vs positional pay rates for vets makes running back a really limited value that early.

Theres cap space too... I would’ve considered it more strongly in March and if there was a round 3-ish attached. Sign a decent vet and add a day two rookie with the pick/savings. It’d be a matter of win now with shady or take a little risk for gaining better long term building prospects and a more focused running approach. I like shady but I also like the models we saw in Minnesota (depth kept them solid despite injury) and nola (healthy and consistently strong). 15-20 touches a week and shady is your guy but if you need 30 carries or see a rolled ankle and those backfields are better. essentially 2 years 12m with little risk. It’s not terrible for a new team.