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Shuttles had drew at 4.5 and allen at 4.4... Considering how the game has changed, that’s probably not as big a gap once you normalize for how much faster everyone is. i dont think it’s some perfect comparison and allen is definitely quicker but nowhere near as absurd as some will portray and if allen retires with 4 probowls and a ring he will be a home run for us.

Id doubt he literally put fingers in his ears and refused to hear offers but sounds like it’d take a massive deal and if reports were true that we wouldn’t include the other first.... probably weren’t a ton of monster deals

But most in this era do...

He definitely could be the guy. I get why folks are nervous, but you have to be a bit excited. also, is Big Ben shrinking with age? I enjoyed the way you mentioned his size

Or you could argue competitive teams despite coaching turnover and constant scheme changes

Well, honestly, yea... it’s cool he has a monster arm but that highlight - as fun as it is- probably is as much of a red flag as a positive. Making that throw as rare as possible in his nfl game will be a goal. Thats the thing in these settings- we always see the offseason message board posts of “with another year he will be much better” but plenty of guys dont take regular strides forward like we assume. Fingers crossed he does

Could it just be marrone was a much better coach than Rex? Not a huge fan of the dude but he’s doing good stuff in Jax and had some of our best results too

Speed. Everywhere. Bpa that can move fast.

Your “friend” didn’t want to sign up for the draft?!?

You know athlete is speed commentary. He’s clearly an athlete but this is a case of does he run past blockers and chase down backs or is he a smart and stout player that knocks his blocker back a step, sheds the right way and wraps up?

Ultimately, he checked the box. I don’t care 32 vs 37 vs 34 vs 40 i don’t want sub 20 at qb though

I will be shocked if he doesn’t start any games this year.

He’s a pretty iconic fan and I believe heads up the DFW bills backers - who are a huge and very active group. Im more surprised you don’t know him than that the bills do

I appreciate the imagery... ha! I haven’t watched a ton of him but the takeaway I had from the little bit was less best first step and fast up field and more technically sound and very sturdy. Ill stress i didnt mean it as a knock— just that I envision him beating up the guy in front of him and getting the tackle a step into the backfield regularly, instead of the get the guy 5 yards deep type of getting up field.

Ultimately day 3 isn’t about this year anyway. If we are counting on a guy tomorrow to be a big impact we’ve already created abust. There’s no telling what we need in 2020 so you get the best player you can and figure success anywhere on the field is great down the line. ill keep floating griffin as a curveball that would round out a major infusion of athleticism at lb behind an influx of DTs protecting them. Could be a hell of a transformation in the middle of the field.

Gotta generally be bpa but as you get deep in the draft things tend to flatten out a bit outside a few random slides. take advantage of any big differential but any ties have to go to offensive speed

Is he that type of penetrating player though? They kind of look alike but he seems like a different player from the little I know (more like star than Kyle, no?)

Nice pick

Pretty much anyone passing here must’ve flagged him hes got to be bpa otherwise

Suspected he’d be gone

Call me crazy but.... griffin? I want an offensive playmaker but think this kid could be the real deal despite the obvious challenges

All about the docs. All you can do is trust your guys. If cleared he’s a no brainer. Looks like no ones confident though. call me crazy but... maybe griffin at 96 or in the 4th? I want offensive playmakers but the kids another freak athlete

He was just too ordinary and far too many teams would have gotten guys between the top 4 and free agency. Anything’s possible but it did seem too frenzied here for a bit.

Thats what a single digit wonderlic indicates, no jokes intended

I like to think I’m not dumb, and I’m relatively outgoing... and I accept that calling a game for 3 hours would be extremely difficult. What made VY think he could is beyond me