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With him running in the 4.3s I wonder when we see him win a game where another guy wouldn’t be able to get there. Im not propping him up because of the story- the dudes a freak athlete. Roquan Smith is same height, only 7 lbs heavier (which is a smaller gap in this case for obvious reasons) and was considered fast running in the 4.5s. Our own Milano is lighter and in the 4.6s..... Preston brown was in the 4.8s.... at 4.38 this kid I believe times out faster than literally anyone on our roster If he can read offenses and have good instincts off the ball he can be an impact player. He might miss an opportunity but he will also create ones no one else can.

That’s definitely part of why. There’s no shame in admitting that knocked him down a bit compared to his measurables otherwise.

You called him a 220 tweener without a position - so I addressed that he’s bigger than that, and both bigger and much faster than a guy filling the position you say he needs to bulk up to play for us. Agreed he would be learning a new position but he’s played in coverage and done it well. He wasn’t purely a pass rusher and 4.38 speed can run in coverage with anyone.

Hes heavier than Milano and MUCH quicker. Why couldn’t he fill the role? I wouldn’t knock them for not having him there either. Treat him like a player. Not many mid rounders get to go

Dude is bigger than Milano and his forty was 0.3 sec quicker. He definitely has a position. Will his hand cost him him an interception or tackle along the way? Surely. Will his athleticism create opportunities to make plays others wouldn’t get? Likewise definitely.

I think all involved knew late last night was the earliest. I’m guessing all are comfortable with him going today and they likely have some feature planned

Also tre white for marshon lattimore

Was last year 0 or -1?

That special teams is phasing out makes it harder on him too but I think he has a better shot than most day three linebackers I bet plenty of college coaches regret thinking the same

I admittedly assumed that he was comparing the two as incoming rookies. Though I’m also fine if allen gets us a ring and then we trade him to the pats for a first to start our dynasty if he was being super literal.

Dont you love obscure stats with no benchmarking

I suppose they are hoping for health. If everyone is 100% we are passable otherwise - yikes.

My point was just maybe dial back from 11 on the hate if you haven’t looked at a guy seriously in the future.

Hes allegedly missed multiple flights to team visits and had an altercation in philly, plus fired his agent and has a mystery story here.... I think he might not be planning two moves ahead with his actions

I suspect that in the list of potential culprits that a team is probably behind 1) peer wanting to move up 2) guy wanting clicks 3) nemesis getting revenge

That was my impression of him and why I was asking about everyone going straight to KW for a comparison. Both white, hardworking and humble but on the field it seems there’s a difference in play with strength/leverage vs quickness/agility. That’s not to say either guy sucks at the other skill set but that they seem more like complimentary skill sets than duplicating the same.

Yup. Will his wants match an opportunity? Maybe. If it’s as simple as would he find an offer if his primary goal is an nfl job? Definitely.

Wait a minute... Weren’t you one of the guys on tilt raging against him and any that disliked him but now that you looked at him again yesterday you are optimistic?!?

Thats probably what skewed that study I showed you... we got all his tweets baked into the numbers now. Silly me.

I remember when guys like you projected us to have like 12 starters and among the strongest groups in the league last year.... we again have among the weakest and it’s late to add an immediate impact. It’s ok to acknowledge that

https://relativeathleticscores.com/2018/02/17/ras-metrics-download/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

On the spectrum allen is about middle of the pack? even slow guys can take a few steps in the pocket. I don’t envision Allen’s ability to run changing defensive game plans considerably. He will avoid some sacks and create some time here and there which is great but vs a relatively non athletic guy pocket presence will bes bigger issue than 40 time.

But we really nailed down depth at rb! Jokes aside, every reason to be skeptical of the kid but he checks a ton of boxes and if in 2 years we have to move on it’s not the end of the world

Right? We have bad feelings about his time here but dude has a bunch of probowls, led the league in passing and has a ring. If allen has the head and arm of that plus some mobility... not the knock some will think it is.

Ultimately, if we weren’t including 22.... what were we offering that was better than what only got us to 7? i wouldn’t trade back to 12 without another 1st