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Ah ERFA and RFA are two different things- makes sense now And both the numbers for the minimum offer and the process didn’t match the RFA process. Simple misunderstanding with it actually being ERFA.

Remember that market if we start looking for a RT. It’s thin and they are making money. Had me a little antsy about cordy but we will see

Every year we see the same posts... if you are good at the cap, you can work it to squeez quite a bit. We’ve never been in bad shape, despite a lot of worry.

Where’d you get it? Offers aren’t based on years accrued but round of compensation if signed away, no?

I believe he wore 25 in Nola to the same effect decent player that I’ve mentioned as a depth safety before. Won’t love him, and likely won’t hate him unless he has a run of specifically good or bad luck

Yup. Id take Watson over white and 22 this year. Maybe we nail it and he he falls apart but right now we are still coming from behind

Fair enough! But you get my point- our 37 vs another teams 48 isn’t a great indicator. And depending on where guys are in contract cycles etc... how much space next year is a complicated question and a simple answer that can mislead.

You also have to identify how many players under contract and who they are right now next years salary cap number doesn’t mean much

The only question mark is who the vet is. i like it with a cheap one, but not with bradford, McCarron or Keenum for more money than Tyrod was PLUS the dead money. the trade in a vacuum is fine though.

When healthy he’s an excellent tackle and there aren’t many options out there right now. We got good value but hopefully we find someone to protect this rookie qb. I think it’s a fair trade and I’m by no means upset but there’s some risk that many aren’t acknowledging. Dawkins-incognito is good enough this year but is groy-vlad-???? going to work?

I have to think there’s some evidence here, but who knows. We will see with time. No need to rush to judgment

Ritchie, Clay, Hughes and McCoy are pretty much all that’s left of Whaley free agency shaq is basically the last day one or two pick by the bills that predates last year’s draft, right? its quite the turnover We are only paying him 1.3 and 1.8m the next two years. It’s pretty darn cheap.

To be fair that’s more you being out of line than Beane performing miracles

Even if you knew it meant trading to the top 5 to draft the starter?

Sooooo if the owners, or perhaps some new leaders in the organization (as we’ve had a ton added this last year) were sitting down watching tonight and walk into the stadium tomorrow and it really smacks them in the face and they decide to act... There’s something wrong with that? id agree that the interview wasn’t the thing that should be the red line that can’t be crossed but I’m not buying that they’ve put themselves into any corner by not moving sooner. It should’ve been handled previously but that doesn’t mean you can’t now. And doing it now doesn’t make the whole wall a sham.

Seems it might be ok in the parking lot, but crosses the line if on the turf. Not sure if that changes based on day of week or whether it’s the sideline vs field of play I get not wanting things to be crazy slippery slopes but sometimes the answer is just easy and obvious and you don’t really need to worry about implications. Guy that ran real fast having his name painted on a wall and it getting painted over because he killed his wife and another guy seems like it’s easy and obvious enough. We can save real debate for another day, right? Right? No? Jeeeeze.

Recontextualize it- that was big in the 60 minutes piece on confederate statues that ran at the same time. Definite possibility here.

I think this conversation gets especially muddied with the confederate statues issues going on... Ive noticed some tone shift in the “keep him up” crowd the last few years, and more of the erasing history sneaking in alongside “its only football in a vacuum and you can’t look at anything else.” I suspect there’s a real worry of give an inch and they take a mile for some on that side of the argument... i would be genuinely curious about what would happen if in tonight’s interview oj said “oh I hated buffalo- that place was the worst.” As hypotheticals go I think that would’ve lost him more defenders than his actual “hypothetical”

He certainly wants to and 99.999999% will stay in New Orleans. There are few destinations where the team he goes to wouldn’t instantly be a contender though. If he signed here — between free agency and 6 early draft picks add 2 WRs a couple front 7 defenders and a little depth and we are instantly a super bowl favorite.

Its an arbitrary wall about contributions to the team. It can extend to administrative positions. At some point OJ has crossed the line where the attention he has brought the team outweighs being real fast. That doesn’t mean he’s no longer a part of our history but that he’s no longer one of the top handful of guys that exemplify the best of the bills organization.

His easy out is simply saying that he poorly argued that his criteria is solely football character and not character as a whole. Which, so be it.... but I think as fans we should expect more from the team than having this guy on the wall tomorrow. I won’t lose a wink of sleep making that judgement.

So if we found out he liked to party too hard on Saturday night and played some games seriously hungover and not giving the team 100% does it change his greatness?

But nothing about weo’s hypothetical changed a single yard gained or td scored on his on field resume. It would be the same the day before and the day after that news came out. Would he suddenly not be one of our top 3 most talented/accomplished players? So morality sneaks in there somewhere.

I get that you aren’t strongly advocating here- and are just discussing... but there are fans that do strongly advocate for keeping him up. Taking him down isnt pretending he didnt exist. It’s saying we aren’t going to honor him. Very different things.

Oh, you don’t say? Again, I don’t care. Truly, i can’t fathom why fans grasp at this argument. Do you lose something by taking him down?