NoSaint

Yup. When you gut a roster of almost every day 1 and day 2 pick for a 5+ year run in one offseason, it becomes that type of process. If we don’t intend to move up and NAIL the draft it could be expedited but agreed fully

I don’t think it’ll be huge signings but some mid tier guys

We will see - long way to go before getting one this year for Gaines

That, but are also safer.

They consider coming here because they are thevstarter until unseated and we may not get that rookie.

And this is why you don’t sprint to cut taylor, create 10m in dead money and give out a contract like this to another mediocre qb.

Frankly, I’m down to do a guy like ivory AND a day 2 rookie with the prospect of Tyrod and a rookie qb. Lets have a strong and diverse group of backs that can succeed over the next couple years if this is who we are

Signing mario wasn’t bad... but really I think transitioning to having a real GM instead of the Marv/Brandon/littman/committee was the biggest. We are now a .500 club that functions at a basic Nfl level. We don’t stand out good or bad organizationally. money is the biggest. Scheme fit and opportunity to shine next comfort in the city and such behind there and means different things to different players. 1) money 2) future money 3) everything else. when we were a mess we weren’t giving out #1 and were jeopardizing #2... and were bad with #3 but were already far behind in the game — but we’ve generally been better about that for awhile.

And in that analogy a day 3 pick is akin to a rock or a stick. If we are giving up massive compensation and that tiny value is the dealbreaker and we can’t roll in a slightly higher pick, a next year pick, player, extra late round picks, etc.... we weren’t winning the fight to begin with

If we are unable to replace a 4th rounder in a compensation package - we don’t deserve the qb. Its like saying we cant buy a new car because we went out for lunch last week. Maybe we skip some other minor expense and don’t buy coffee today but it shouldn’t effect the MAJOR commitments

I think an early day three pick would be great here. Receivers are costly on the open market and unreliable late in the draft. To get a guy with his ability on rookie pay scale is a huge win for a team that absolutely gutted the roster of cheap talent. You are right - we shouldn’t sign anyone til May

An incredibly fair question

I would think maybe there was a reason we just don’t know about that was keeping him away unless someone made an offer he couldn’t refuse.

Its almost as if we can hire a qb coach

Riddle me this rush — why don’t we just roll with QBs that don’t intentionally sabotage each other but are highly competitive and then go ahead and hire a great qb coach? seems like a more straightforward plan than signing a qb and paying him to coach up the rookie

Makes more sense than 2-3 years of Bradford at a big deal, Tyrods dead money on top and a rookie unless you are getting something for Tyrod— the 1 year contract and lack of dead money put him ahead the other guys that aren’t much better (if at all)

It really isn’t that big of a financial hit. We are talking a range of 2-6m per year and a 4 year deal. In a projected 178m cap.... thats not substantial. The opportunity cost sucks. And no one is hitting their top three picks more often than not. Hitting all three is a banner year not the expectation

It wasn’t beanes, and no one is consistently hitting 3 of 3. Otherwise, sure. if you hit 3 of 3 a couple of times (especially with a qb) you immediately shoot to Super Bowl favorite

there’s been people in this very thread that do know factually that you’ve written off. Do you expect a bills issued formal press release?

Im guessing he is setting this goal not his team. I would assume he has been told that it would be an incredible long shot and he’s decided to try to beat the odds. Dudes probably rolled into a ton of workouts the last 10-15 years with that in his head. I don’t expect it to instantly disappear from who he is as a human. Hopefully as this goes on he makes the transition you outline - but how and when that happens isn’t the same for everyone and at least his view of the future is skewed towards optimism and hard work instead of depression and hopelessness

We often agree but on this one.... like 3 months after possibly losing his dream I am not going to stress on him using it as a motivator to get out of bed in the morning and try to crush his PT. Eventually he has to make the transition to normal person but if Nfl dreams help him get back to walking sooner (or at all) - dream away dude.

Dude just needs a goal and Nfl football is probably his most familiar goal. Odds are low he gets there but if he works like he’s trying to get back hopefully he ends up somewhere pretty good

Its not thaaaat nuts - but the 3 specific guys are awful value.

Missing on a qb hurts — but the perk is if you miss, odds are you’re getting another swing at it pretty soon. They aren’t getting huge deals and you have to find one. Take a swing.

I know you’d be down- but I’m going to keep beating the drum a bit. I think many would be surprised by it but I think there’s a real value in that area most years. There aren’t many guys going at 50 that impact a team more than Kamara or hunt. Lots of touches, less extreme transition- and get them before the injury bug of a vet.