NoSaint

Weve seen the list a dozen times this offseason. find the list of guys like Keenum, McCarron etc... that have become viable answers vs the ones that disappeared. It’s even longer odds.

Why are we better off spending 15m on a qb and drafting two second tier guys instead of signing two vets and trading up for a cheap rookie qb? at least the rookie stands a chance of being the guy. Keenum or McCarron? Meh.

I get it. And stand by my joke.

All I hear is that we shouldn’t hire the OP to scout

He wouldve been better with more talent. Not great but better. When all were healthy there were some decent days. Roll in Percy and we had good but unreliable weapons outside.

McCarron/Keenum for 18m plus 7m dead sure would be worst case for me now.

I dig it I think

If we pencil in McCowm at 6.5 from last year and Tyrods dead at 7.5 we are at 14m for that roster slot. Saves $2m vs Tyrod staying and gets you a draft pick about 32 picks higher.... i could land on either side... I suppose that’s markets being efficient

Reading comprehension issues do create a lot of the hot takes I’ll say that now that we know the terms it’s an interesting debate. Do you eat Tyrods dead money and get an early 3 now or hold him for the year and potentially get a comp 3 later (even as a good backup contract he’d likely be up there)? i think this has to indicate a mediocre vet (Yates, Moore, Anderson) type guys at sub $5m and no threat to start paired with an aggressive run at a rookie. That said, tyrods 7.5m dead plus a cheap vet gets you towards 10m+ between the contracts.... for the extra couple million I like Tyrod as a backup instead of Derek Anderson unless the relationship was totally poisoned (possible)

No young qb is ever fully ready — if you believe a guy is worth going to the top ten he is immediately starter unless you made a mistake. If we stay put then it’s a competition with a slightly stacked deck (close and the rookie plays)

Also, if the team has essentially moved on it’s pretty “whatever” as far as crying about tampering Its a tough rule to enforce. How do you prove the Bucs and Gaines spoke?

I would absolutely hate eating Tyrods dead money to give McCarron 15m per year

Sooooo instead of an unproven commodity at qb you go after Keenum, savage and bridgewater for guys 3-5 on your list? foles I can at least buy as having a couple successful stints. If docs clear luck that’s different... but you put savage at the top of the rookie class in what he’s proven?

But we aren’t really talking “more than that” just a different assortment. if we add Rosen, LB at 22, WR in the second, and a RB and offensive line depth in the 3rd ala this trade.... and free agency gets us an impact at DL, a decent WR, and caretaker vet qb.... suddenly we have a pretty good shot at a WC and also some depth. I’m not saying we should press for that but it’s truly nothing to be afraid of

You had them penciled in for 10-6 and the AFCCG after being 3-13 the year prior and starting Blake Bortles.... but we shouldn’t trade next years 1 for fear of it being top 5.... Come on... an improvement for Jax was getting near .500. Them getting deep in the playoffs was about as long a shot as us getting 3 wins next year.

Or the jags in the bottom 4? By that standard we could get lucky and it be pick 26 next year

Truly we have never been in all that bad of a situation.

We weren’t that good last year, and won’t be that bad next. In the proposed trade we get our qb, a first round LB keep a second and two third rounders. And that’s before free agency. I don’t think we are going to the playoffs with a rookie but I don’t think we are a train wreck

A first rounder is starting for us day 1 almost 100% no matter the rest of the depth chart If we sign Moore and don’t take a guy in the first.... again, I’ll suggest Beane start contemplating his own future.

As a GM If your first rounder is sitting inactive behind Moore and peterman you might want to start working on a resume ————— now I will say I don’t think we are chasing a costly vet to pair with a rookie. Tyrod was that option. So someone like Moore is the alternative that now makes sense.

Why oh why would you not just put our pick and the trade up cost? Spoiler: we get Rosen and use 21, a 2nd, next years 1 and cordy (and swap some other picks) At 22 Vander Esch I don’t see a huge gap in 22 vs next years in the package. I’m fine adding the talent this year. We could get an impact player in the front 7 that we need badly

Some of y’all are dramatic that said, I’d keep him at 8m

And if they let them walk in free agency it must be worse. and you can’t really like guys that people pass on in the draft. really there are very few acceptable player acquisitions each year.

No one thinks it’s automatic. It’s just a hell of a lot easier to talk a team with a qb into trading back when there is a qb on the board compared to getting a qb needy team to pass.

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