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No one is saying it's a done deal - it's speculation. It can't be denied that Evans did not thrive in this offense. He didn't do much in 2009 either. There are a lot of receivers who were more productive than Evans who cost less than $4.225 million a year. I'd prefer that he stay (it's not my money). At the end of the day, I'm guessing he will because the Bills do tend to keep moderately productive solid citizens.
The "insight" it offers (if you want to call it that) is that it's not coming from them, but from NFL people they interviewed.
but thats about as insightful as someone saying at the bills slot in the draft, the bills will either draft the third player off the board or make a trade... its source really doesnt matter at that point.
evans wont be a 3rd or 4th receiver for us, and if he becomes one -- as HIGHLY unlikely as it is that Easley does that -- he will be out the door via trade or release pretty quickly.
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http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/01/22/rookie-db-wilson-out-of-favor-with-jets
• WR Marcus Easley didn't play a single snap for the Bills in 2010, and due to a left knee injury early in training camp that put him on I.R., he barely even practiced much with the team. That should change in 2011, as the team has high-hopes for the fourth-round pick. If Easley can return to 100 percent, he should be able to compete for a spot in the WR rotation. The Bills already have a lot of young, inexpensive talent at the position, and Easley's emergence could mean the end of the line for high-priced vet Lee Evans.
yea, if easley and johnson pan out then evans might be gone. if brown becomes better then fitz, it might be bad for fitz..... when backups play as well or better then starters and are younger, you go with them. that article offered no insight to buffalo, but simply put, stated common sense.
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Keep in mind that the Bills helped GB get to the Superbowl, indirectly. Remember when we drafted Losman? Word around the league was that the Packers wanted him and would've taken him next.
If they had done that, no Rodgers the next season. And who knows where the Packers would be now? It just shows what a crapshoot the draft is.
or who knows what losman is with 3 years behind favre. maybe it teaches him a thing or two, maybe he blows a gasket with the retire, unretire nonsense.
maybe favre is still in greenbay.
funny how one pick can change the landscape of the nfl.
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I know that those plaers were drafted but they are spending a ton of money on them due to their high draft status
Like it or not, were spending a ton on our roster too. Maybin, whitner losman, Evans, spiller, mckelvin, dockery, schobel, kelsay.... Just not getting the same value
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They are just as much of a small market team as us, if not even more so, yet they consistently mae the playoffs and seem to have money to pay players. Woodson, Rodgers, Mathews, Raji, Jennings, Driver, etc. What is it with our team that makes it so much more difficult to be successful I understand we have been horrible in the draft, but why can they spend and we can't? I don't truly believe all the Ralph is cheap talk. There are some REALLY good FA's out there this year that if we were able to get just two of them our team would be completely different. Why is it the same nonsense every damn year? I don't get it
Correct me if I'm wrong but Woodson was the only FA.
Draft ngata, Matthews and a functional qb instead of whitner, maybin and losman and we wouldve been much better.
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pitts was 3rd in rushing, 9th in total offense and rothlisberger didn't play the beginning of the season. yeah, i'm sure it's overly pessimistic to make such comparisons. their line sucked.
The offensive line might be the only unit we measure up with Pitt on this year. The only reason those players were on the field is because they had a ton of injuries. If not for ben that offense would have been in the bottom 10, because of them. What you saw yesterday was not why we need flozell, or Scott.... It's why we need a Ben type qb.
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Bruce Gradkowski to back up Fitz, I think he is a guy Chan could work with. He shows some stuff (even in Oak.) is young and wouldn't be too expensive. We don't really need to draft a QB IMO.
If we were looking for a Fitz replacement I would say Kyle Orton.
Franchise: Vick
Draft: cam, mallett or gabbert at 34, or ponder in the third
Steady Back up: gradkowski
Boom or bust: VY
Depends what were looking for. If you wipe out Vick (who I think returns to Atlanta form and I don't love) - it comes down to fitz vs no fitz. If you like fitz, gradkowski otherwise you must get one of the others - I prefer draft but if all else fails, I'd rather VY then brohm.
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http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2005_roster.htm
Who do you wish was still starting from that roster? Jason Peters, London Fletcher, and Nate Clements are the only names that jump out at me.
A cb trio of Clements, McGee and Greer. Evans, peters, Fletcher. I could deal with schobel and kelsay with that secondary and some talent at DT. Could do worse then mcgahee. Parrish would still be a good slot and returner.
In an ideal world losman would have made the qb position and by proxy every other position much better. That's really the key.
Milloy played on a playoff team, as did wire. Tko contributes to the 9ers last I knew- doesn't say a ton though.
I'm not saying there all great but I'm also saying we shouldn't replace our whole roster every other year.
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I think you need both. To say it's D or qb is silly. You need d and a qb. And you saw that today.
And for those that love Hanie- it's a half a game against a defense that had no tape on him all week, and changed it's style of play to prevent instead of pressure. He made some throws and made fatal mistakes, just like you'd expect.
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No the Patriots get them all, haven't you learned anything over these alst 11 years?
as it turns out, the pats let a lot of guys walk and tend to acquire talent in the draft.
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Yah I do think that's what it is. You don't know what "bum knee" means because you're not him. I guess living in Philly that mentality just reminds me of all the ignorant Iggle fans who always said "McNabb doesn't care 'cause OMG look at him smiling on the sidelines!" It's just stupid, that's all.
heres where i think you are wrong though, and why even that is a strange explanation. if his knee is bad enough to not be in the game, he shouldnt be on the sideline pacing around. if its a real tear he shouldnt be putting weight, if its a bad sprain, sit yourself down and hope it heals for the superbowl. if you want to be around your team, atleast engage, not just sit there silently while the rookie replacing you is going through the game pics right next to you. it all adds up to him really not seeming to care, or being to emotionally screwed up to really help that team when the chips are down. either way is disaster as a starting qb.
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Or if you don't give your team as good a chance to win as the healthy back-up...
How are you not the guy who pushes for players to play hurt?
short of his leg falling off, a franchise qb that you traded the house for, and paid, should be better then todd collins or a rookie even with a bum knee. this could be his once in a lifetime shot at the superbowl and he pulled himself. thats not normal, even if he is hurt. most qbs would need a trainer or coach to drag them off the field there. he seemed... indifferent. like he didnt really care one way or the other. it could be like the thread said the other day and he actually has social issues so he doesnt get what his body language was putting off but..... you have to admit that his behavior was not typical.
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1989-2004 is 16 years.
he said as a head coach in the original post. not sure why he wouldnt include years as DC, but..... for what its worth he didnt need to be corrected.
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yea its not just about individuals lost, but net gain or loss. the formula is cryptic but roughly they try to match your signings against your losses and then give you a value based on whats left over in the loss column.
TO and Edwards probably cancel each other out.
also the signings of ayodele, torbor, cornell green would likely cancel out any losses. it would be a LATE pick if we did get one.
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Yeah, that's exactly what Urlacher is going to say.
yea thats what he says to friends behind closed doors. whats he supposed to say in the lockerroom today? even if he didnt believe in cutler, he couldnt say it.
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Yeah, it was weird. But nobody here knows what was really going on. Urlacher is defending him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=6051718
Also he was riding the bike for a while trying to test it.
yea but whats urlacher supposed to say. he literally had one possible answer, and gave it.
i must have missed the bike. it all just seemed very "aw shucks, guess im done for the day. ill be over on the bench but try not to disturb me too much"
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Only think I can think of is that he didn't feel he could escape pressure with his knee, and they made a call that he wasn't effective?
with the ever elusive todd collins waiting in the wings i can see that. even so - shouldnt he have them been atleast trying to figure SOMETHING out? a new brace, riding a bike, an mri or xray? trainers working on it? painkillers? comes out, takes one drive and then just chills. weird.
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I can see Chicago looking at QB's in the 1st round now. That was a pathetic performance by a starting QB in a championship game. I don't usually push for players to play hurt, but if you're playing for the chance at a Super Bowl you play unless your leg is about to fall off.
I don't think the team will have total confidence in his leadership abilities after today.
Well I think this a difference between hurt and injured. If he's hurt he needs to either be out there or finding a way to get back. If he's injured he needs to be getting treated in the locker room. To be wandering around the sidelines is just bizarre. To sit next to Hanie while he looks at recap pics, and not be looking with or helping, also strange.
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To go from 5 to 3 is still a 2nd rounder.
Even so, I'd be fine with less if we want dareus. Those are guides for value, but any given year or trade is different. If we want a guy that's expected to fall I'm ok leaving a little value with the slim odds he goes 4.
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It does seem odd. He didn't look hurt nearly as bad as Fergy in 1980. Then again, this 3d string dude looks a lot better anyway.
Or Brett limping off the field last year at the nfccg, or rivers ACL two(?) years ago
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How cutler was well enough to stand on the sidelines and not bad enough to be in xrays, or how he isn't with trainers trying braces or..... Is beyond me.
Notice his teammates are ignoring him? Just saying. Whole situation says a lot.
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Can't believe they didn't wait til the 4th to make the switch - who is emergency #4 qb?
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Maybe the pick he just made, killing the Packers drive and getting his team the ball back has something to do with it.
But he only had one sack in the first quarter!
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well he isnt matthews or even hawk either
You are right, poz isn't an outside linebacker picked in the top 15 (or an ILB in the top 5 in hawks case)on a defense with a ton of talent in front of and behind him. Nor does he play with another LB with talent, such as that of the packers squad.
Will he be that quality? Probably not. But he's still a very good ILB for our team.
The Road To The Suberbowl Is In The Hands Of Todd Collins
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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drew brees didnt miss a single snap with a partially torn mcl this year -- so thats not definitive as a measure of in vs out.
also, its not just the injury, its acting like a kid whos parent took away their ice cream on the sideline. if he cant play his job is still to do everything he can to win the superbowl. in that situation you need to coach, cheerlead, or go get treatment.
im not saying he had to play but that the entirety of the situation was VERY poorly handled. and he was the main reason. your franchise qb should not leave your franchise where the bears are sitting today. ever.
thats exactly what a sprain is. and a lot of guys play with it. even if you agree with him coming out, you have to see that the situation was handled beyond poorly by him, the coaches and the training staff.
even pulling collins with one minute in the third - what if hanie gets hurt on the first play -- you just shelved your entire qb stable. the team needs to share in the criticism of how it was handled, but lets be honest even in the best case for cutler, he disappointed.