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I don't why they won't. They could get him cheap & he has been completely humbled. He still commands a double & opens up the field for everyone. He's a HOFer & just wants a ring at this point. 0 risk.
Other than the get him cheap part I don't know if I agree with a single point you made.
I don't think he will ever be humble.
From every impression I've gotten he cares much more about the lifestyle, money and sh-- talking that come with winning as opposed to the pride in his craft, symbol of hardwork or brotherhood of the accomplishment. He may want a ring but I wouldn't shroud that desire in humility.
I don't think he still commands a double team, but may Occassionally draw one, situationally.
I think bringing him back is a huge distraction likely not worth the reward.
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and of course, the proverbial question - where does he fit in a 34 front.
a say go bpa and make the pieces work, and if you have bowers as bpa its fine to go heavy on the 43, but i dont know if thats the intention.
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Is he? Maybe he just doesn't take tests well. Maybe the test isn't a true indicator of intelligence. He doesn't seem to have any problems
being understood. This is just one interview. There are many more.
youtube.com/watch?v=FSCkXnqyViw&feature=related
Be careful assuming anything about anyone's intelligence based off a test. Just because one gets a good score on a test doesn't necessarily make
them intelligent. Change the subject of the test, change other dynamics of the test maybe they will do better or not as well. Maybe he blew off
the test. Who knows.
people can be very challenged reading, and still have fine verbal communication. the two are far from exclusive.
this is also an issue that has followed him for quite some time. as one poster already pointed out, there were issues with his SATs and academic eligibility.
from what i know, from former lsu players ive worked with, if you can run fast, you can get a degree from lsu no problem. not implying those former players are dumb, but theyve confirmed many times that players get pushed through without questions (shocker, i know)
last up, if you look at the knocks on his game, it tends to be mental issues. he has all the athleticism in the world to make up for his mistakes, but trust, he does make those mistakes. he is not the type of corner that is a student of the position, and knows the proper footwork to match a receiver step for step with no wasted motion, he is the type that can outrun someone to the ball once he sees it, even if he is out of position. he is not a shut down corner in the sense of not allowing any windows, he is a shutdown corner in the sense of you might get 10 catches on him, but he will take 1 of your 11 throws to the house... dont get me wrong, hes ultra talented, and that is a hugely valuable skill. im just saying that im surprised by a 9, as thats atrocious, but not surprised by a low score in general.
How does this parrot's 40 time compare to Peterson's?
flying, competitive
running, not good.
also, his hands were poor. id say he dropped passes, but in reality passes dropped him.
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Dexter, what makes you think the Wonderlic is multiple choice? ...because that's what it is in Madden?
The condensed (15 minute WPT) version I took had a few multiple choice questions (e.g. which shape comes next in the series?) but most were not.
I suspect many of the very low scores, especially by players who do much better on later attempts, just reflect the player doesn't care about the test, not necessarily that they are profoundly dim (though I'm sure some are).
one could say they are profoundly dim if they blow it off -- regardless of reason, a single digit score is a pretty solid warning flag
also, the actual test is multiple choice. this we can totally and truthfully confirm for all those wondering.
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Actually, I read that Carolina's head coach and GM weren't even there...LOL
Gabbert's game tape must really not be all that impressive if a team looking to draft Newton #1 overall doesn't even bother to go to his pro day.
I really hope that this dinner with him is just smoke screen stuff.
or they spent time with him at the combine, and plan on inviting him to carolina, so its not imperative to have everyone show up at every top prospects pro day. could be something, could be nothing.
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to be fair, you would expect a parrot to get approximately a 12.5 average if he took it a few times.
i mentioned this on the cj spiller thread, but anything single digit you have to seriously question whether or not the person is literate -- and i dont mean that in a mocking or funny way, but that its an actual issue that comes into play.
if he knew the answer to 4-5 questions and guessed the rest, you would be looking at mid teens rather consistently.
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If its a PROVEN NFL city why does san diego often not sell out its home games even though they are good year in and out?
because when you are good year in and year out people get bored until they think you are great. the bills started to have issues with this later in the superbowl runs if i recall correctly. teams fans see on the rise tends to create that buzz/frenzy to get tickets, and in a lot of ways, san diego stalled out for a lot of the last decade. they were good, but i think the public probably got conditioned to "whatever, they are going to go 14-2 and choke" which is a tough spot for ticket sales. until the superbowl is on the table for real, you arent going to get the sellout buzz back.
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Yeah, that would make more sense. On an average how long would most of that stuff stay in a persons system?
it all varies by test type, and drug.... for PEDs i am pretty sure you can cycle through them pretty quickly and test clean relatively easily if you know what your windows are. i dont want to quote time periods but my impression is you could bulk up pretty well and test clean if you know you are clear til september. i believe its a conversation of weeks, not months to get everything squared away. problem is if the cba works itself out quicker then expected and you are in he early batches or random testing.
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Taking this a bit personal?
you ask as if the fans here dont get just as worked up about the suggestion that buffalo moves.
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Now that their is no players union or CBA, the fact the players cannot be suspended or retro suspended for any personal conduct or substance abuse activity during this time. I wonder if this would make the players more likely (who want to gain or loss weight) to attempt to use these banned subtances? From what I understand the NFL can take no action towards anything a player does during a lockout. I don't know how that would playout if a players takes something now, the lockout ends in 3 months form now and the player has a postive test in say like september, and reports they took something during the lockout, so the conduct policy wouldn'y apply.
unfortunately for this last half of that theory, the positive test is the offense, not the act of smoking/injecting/snorting/injesting anything that would show up on a drug test.
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Maybin is a BUST.....and he will stay a bust.....he will NEVER be a starting defensive anything in the NFL.
so were not ruling out offensive success?!?!?! tight end it is
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i dont mean to rain on any parades, but as soon as that LA slot is filled Toronto is my bet for the next "hot city" to put a team. Switch out Buffalo and Toronto for San Diego and LA and the differences in your paragraph are marginal at best. Be careful what you argue today, it might come back to haunt you tomorrow.
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WHAT!?!?!?! 28" Waist!?!!? I'm no doctor but with how tall he is and a waist that small how did anyone expect him to bulk up? Myself included.
Is it me or did Maybin look the biggest he's ever been between college and the pros during the combine? I would guess they test the hell out of these guys but I wonder if there is a loop hole in the middle when you are no longer a college athlete and not yet a pro. Could he have been using enhancers?
there is a pretty significant gap between your last college test and first pro. even after the combine i dont think you are eligible to get tested for anything until after you sign. roughly the means from New years til August he was subject to one drug test at the combine and im not even 100% sure thats a PED test, or just a basic panel for illicit drugs. id assume it covers everything but im not claiming that knowledge
doesnt mean he was juicing but he bulked up real quick, and likewise it seemed to disappear pretty quick. it happens to a lot of prospects in the offseason/first season (get jacked in the gym in february and burn up a ton of mass during the season due to length and intensity), but his was fairly significant even considering that...
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Having lived here now for a bit over 3 years, LA is certainly great. It has a ton to offer, you just have to look for it. In NYC, everything is right there because in terms of mileage, the city is small (hell, it's an island). LA has a TON of great things, they're just really spread out so you have to really want to find them/go to them to appreciate all it has to offer.
Still, LA is pretty rad.
Agreed. I've only spent a handful of time but def enjoyed it.
And if anything it solidifies the point your making- as far as those attractions go, LA is a much closer comparable than buffalo. No harm meant to the comment, just a totally different type of place.
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Thats not the point at all. Not everyone equates "more things to do" with "place I'd prefer to live." Plenty of other factors go into the decision .... climate, schools, jobs, people, location, "liveability", proximity to family, etc etc.
Anyway, none of this has anything to with the mayor of one city trying to deflect from his serious problems at home by taking a cheap shot at another city. Thats the real point, so let's say hypothetically we agreed 100% of the people would choose to live in NY over Buffalo. That it's an irrefutable fact ... so what? Again, how does that get Bloomberg and his massive budget crisis off the hook? I dont see Buffalo laying off a proportional number of teachers. He could have said an almost limitless amount of "true" statements and it wouldn't excuse the situation in NYC.
It seems that you are so hurt and offended by the comment that you just aren't reading any of the replies tgregg and I wrote. As I've said before, you are arguing against something neither of us said, and I'm not quite sure why. I dont agree with your hypothetical that everyone wants to live there. I don't know if you missed my post about being quite happy where I live.
I even agreed that the context of the comment was silly to have made....
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I know there is some talk of a rival league stealing players but, seriously, it would have to get pretty bad for players to risk injury for chump change, which is what they would earn in the UFL or CFL. UDFA-types I can see, but if you are a sure NFL pick it's too big a gamble.
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Very true. The NFL has just outpaced pretty much any other... Well... Anything... When it comes to salary growth. By doing so they have created what amounts to a fiercely loyal pool of players (as ironic as that sounds given the current situation). You couldn't fill out a starting 22 in the cfl with paying guys the equivalent of the NFL league minimum - you'd be like 50% over the cap with just those 22.... Even though they are arguing over cash right now, the 10th draft pick will make a bigger signing bonus then entire team salaries in the cfl
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Pluck NY City.
<3 Davidson County!
And don't bother coming here if you don't speak english.
I'm in new orleans which marches to the beat of a pretty unique drum. It's a cool place to be and certainly a lifestyle I'd be hardpressed to find in NYC but I'm not kidding myself and saying there's more here. There's considerably less but what I have is different and works for me.
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There have been many Bills drafts that would have been better if they had followed that route.
Let's cut to the chase- we could've put the top 250 names in a hat and pulled one randomly and done better then a handful of our first rounders this last decade.
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Oh really ..... then what do you make of: "NYC is a mecca for culture, the arts, sports, night life. Very few cities in the history of mankind can compare to what NYC has to offer on a daily basis"
Again, not saying Buffalo has the same draw as NYC ... the huge population differential says it's not ... however not everyone given a choice would opt for NYC. Many many people leave NYC for more "liveable" cities all the time. I know a successful businessman in Buffalo for example, who does more work in NYC than Buffalo, but chooses to live in Buffalo and spend more commuting time as a result.
When you name a city that has more of those things, I'll listen. He's not saying everyone must choose to live NYC but that quite frankly on most measurable dimensions it is unmatched. It's not where I'd choose to start a farm either, but that doesn't mean that a farm town has more to offer. Nor does that insult a farmer. When it comes to arts, diversity, entertainment, opportunity.... Buffalo pales in comparison.
To be crude (and I'm sure you'll rip this), your kind of arguing a super model vs your average girl next door. Plenty of people are meant to be with girls next door, but to say she's winning the beauty contest is unlikely. There's nothing wrong with that, nor should there be. You find what makes you happy but if it's the things he listed- buffalo isn't the place for you really.
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March of the year after they were drafted.
Basically you have 11months to sign the player before they go back in the draft.
That's the crazy thing if there is no CBA the entire 2012 draft would be both class years.
Or the players that got drafted by the Steelers and Patriots could choose not to renter and wait for a CBA and the players that got drafted by the Bills and the Briwns can re-enter and see if they land in greener pastures.
Crazy
Some things to remember:
No 2012 draft without a CBA- I doubt a CBA would put everyone back in the draft
The 11 month rule isn't 11 calendar months, it's till the close of the league year I believe. Might be splitting hairs but big difference in perspective
The cfl has a salary cap of 4million for entire teams. They'd be hardpressed to target the last 15 players drafted, yet alone first 15. The economics of the NFL are just too different. This isn't the same game as the 80s.
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Just not true. A lot of people don't care for NYC. They think the people are cold, and the city is congested. Not saying that's true or not BUT you can't deny that a lot of people would choose a smaller "liveable" city like Buffalo over NYC. And heck if it's all that and more versus any other city on the planet, there's even less of an excuse for it to be in a budget crisis which requires gutting its teacher ranks.
Joe - no one is saying NYC is for everyone but to say Buffalo has more gravity if you will, is... probably not true. Buffalo offers some alternatives but not near the volume of opportunities, niches, etc... Different strokes for different folks and NYC isn't for everyone by any means but there are a lot more different strokes to be found in NYC and in general you really are fighting just to be argumentative.
You are arguing against a point no one is making.
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I always heard rumors that Cinci had a “skelton” scouting staff, which is believable considering they don’t even have an indoor practice facility. But the other day I heard on Mike and Mike that they actually don’t have a scouting staff. Thats right, no scouts - NONE. I don’t know how true this is or not, but I guess there is a chance lol. I am pretty sure that the two Brown boys (sons of the Owner) run the draft. Unfortunately they have had better drafts the last 5 years with no staff than our entire FO has had.
I've heard smallest by a wide margin. I don't believe none unless they just pull off kipers big board... But I suppose that would trump us.
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All you do is keep rehashing the way YOU evaluate a city. Here you have the mayor of a city that's letting go 1,000 teachers because it's in a budget crisis saying "our problems are a product of success" and "at least we're not Buffalo." Does that sound like a responsible mayor to you? Laying off 1,000 teachers from already over crowded classrooms a "sign of success?" I dont have the stats, but I bet Buffalo has a better student - teacher ratio. For a lot of people THAT DOES MATTER. Not you of course, but you don't speak for 100% of the people.
As best I can tell with a quick search, the ratios are pretty close with buffalo having a slight (I'm talking about like 1 less student per teacher) edge. The flip side, while kids in buffalo read about immigration NYC kids have close access to Ellis island. If you want to make the most of your opportunities, NYC has infinitely more on the table for you. It's not an opinion, it's just true. That isn't an insult, but I get that given the context his comment is insulting.
I'm not saying it's perfect, without flaw and everyone would always choose city life but to compare the two? Buffalo isn't winning many battles, yet alone the war.
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Perfect so far but I'll be surprised to carry these late games
Cameron Jordan
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Not awful.... Helped push it back inside by controling the outside blocker and disengages to cut in and make the tackle.... Can't complain too much.