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I'm not disagreeing with you here but the depth on defense this year is real juicy into the second round, we need help & it's not coming by Free agency. I hope they just do what's best for the team, that's all we can hope for as a whole.
on that same note, we need stars. i think we are far more likely to go after average starters in free agency than we are a star. I also question just about any real highend player that hits free agency. obviously there are exceptions but most of the time there is a reason the team that drafted them isnt resigning them. its seldom that a guy that is both a monster on the field, and a great guy in the locker room hits free agency, especially at premiere positions. the only way you get game changers, franchise cornerstones, that change the culture of an organization like that consistently is to draft them, and often draft them very early. thats how we change the culture of this team. without getting a 1 next year, and/or a boatload of picks this year, i dont think our odds improve for finding that guy by making the trade you propose.
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I think your expectations & where we end up may not meet, which is the same story for 31 teams a year.
im not saying i expect it to happen, but im not wanting to trade just for the sake of trading. sure players tend to be 50-50 whether they are career players or out of the league but the career players in the top 5 tend to be HUGE difference makers, where careers in the late first/early second are much more likely to be serviceable starters.
i may be over reaching some, but based on just the draft value chart you are leaving a late 1 this year, or early 1 next year AND some more, on the table. honestly, i would rather flip a coin on a HoF unless I have something big on the table.
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I can see the Bills dropping back into the 8-12 range to pick up an additional 2 & maybe a 4th but would you mind if they took another trade back to later in the first while picking up an additional 2nd??
This would basically give us pick 22-28, we can then pick early second round (QB Colin Kaepernick hopefully) with our own second rounder & have the 42-44 pick / 54-60 pick. I can't see how we can't improve our defense with this many early picks in this deep a draft & this is a good year to have 4 picks in the first 60. Please pull it apart with logic, thanks.
I'd be more than a little embarrassed by this. Trading back to 10 should net like twice as much as you anticipate getting to fall from 3 to 25. I know those charts are rough guides but jeeeze. If I can find the next elite HoF talent- I want more than a couple serviceable starters in return. Realistically I want a 2 this year, plus a 1 next year to fall to 10, and probably a 2 and something valuable to drop into the 20s from there
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Where do you think Mallett will go?
I'd guess between 35 and 45 (Arizona, cincy, Washington, maybe Dallas, San Fran, tenessee) depends who gets one in the first and how many go in the top 34
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I think the story is that Snead listen to all of the "draft experts" and started believing his own hype. Against the recommendation of the Ole Miss coaching staff he threw his hat into the NFL Draft after his Junior season. People like McShay were saying he was a 1st Round talent, but would probably go in the 2nd Round. ESPN even did one of their "Sports Science" subprograms with him. Truth is, he wasn't ready or as talented as they were making him out to be.
It just strikes me as odd that a kid with a big arm and prototypical size, coming out of the SEC struggled so mightily to even get a chance. I know his junior year was a let down with accuracy and decision making issues, but he was undrafted, and cut in July- didn't get a shot anywhere else, and when signed by an arena team, was cut before the season started. Even the fact that despite the fact he had a letdown year, and was projected midrounds- he still chose to come out? Something just isn't right behind the scenes.
With a big body, and a big arm something must be big time wrong in the head for him to get so many doors slammed in his face,
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I know this has been discussed before, but I think the events of the past week or so warrant another look.
In the past week, we've seen the Sabres do the following:
- Fly in any and all of their willing alumni, all expenses paid, to the home finale for a fan appreciation night. This is supposedly one of the largest gathering of alumni for a single team in NHL history.
- Their President chatted with fans online for THREE HOURS, literally taking suggestion after suggestion and answering question after question.
- Send staff across the continent to Vancouver to nail down upcoming facility upgrades.
- Vault from the NHL's basement to get into the playoffs.
This is all on top of Pegula's statements to do literally anything he can to produce a Stanley Cup winning team on the ice. He has literally said everything a fan has wanted to hear, and so far, he's lived up to what he's said.
I also think most will agree that the Sabres have played second fiddle to the Bills in Buffalo. I am beginning to wonder if the tide is starting to shift on that. Throughout their history, the Bills have largely ignored their fanbase, and at times, alienated it badly by doing things ranging from banning negative signage to giving off the impression that they invest the bare minimum amount of money into the franchise - just enough to keep it operating. Combine that with the lockout situation, poor play the past 10 seasons, and constant threat of the team moving... and it's making the Sabres look better and better.
Now obviously it's only been weeks, and we have no way of knowing what's going to happen with the Sabres over the next few years. But I do think that the Bills eventually need to do something concrete to respond to this. Russ Brandon signing an overpriced aging free agent isn't going to cut it anymore. The bottom line is that the Bills and Sabres are competing for the fans' money. Buffalo fans haven't known an owner with Terry's commitment to winning before. Now that they actually seem to have one, and Ralph is looking more and more like a doofus, one can only hope that it serves as a wake up call to this horribly messed up organization.
No offense to hockey but the fan bases when compared to the NFL just don't even compare in volume. That's not to say that they couldn't steal some dollars out of the bills pockets, but I don't think it's a huge concern about overtaking the bills in popularity given the state of the sports. Though an extended lockout might sway things some.
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Snead plummeted in the draft, was cut real early (did he make it to camp? I know he was gone by the first cut date) and to my knowledge has gotten nothing more than 1-2 workouts since. There's more to the story (maybe some sort of drug issue ala Erik ainge?)-- he just fell too far too fast to just be a purely football issue... Both his play on the field and the total lack of a second chance point to something being wrong on a personal level.
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There has been a lot of discussion around here regarding Fairley's suspicious tumble down the draft boards. Many wonder what he has done since January, when he was widely considered to be the #1 prospect in this draft. I personally love Fairley...he reminds me a great deal of Warren Sapp. His nasty demeanor is something that is desperately needed on this defense. This is a good article that takes a closer look at this situation.
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The issue is that he wasn't the clear #1 in September, October, November, or even December- he shot to one on an emotional response by talking heads to a big game. Once that emotion wore off and film study and reason returned, he settled back to about where he finished the regular season. That's not to say I don't like him, but I think it's a pretty easy answer to why he's not the "duh" choice for #1 anymore. I suspect he never was in war rooms but talking heads on espn put him there cause he played big in the championship.
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That is also what I remember, but I could be wrong. Once again, history being rewritten.
That's 100% true. Of note on the subject, the owners voted like 20-30 mins after the proposal was received, and most acknowledged at the time they had gotten their butts kicked, they just wanted to avoid a stoppage at the time and get back to the table ASAP.
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I think everyone on here is putting on some elaborate smokescreen. I can't comprehend any other way that so many people could use that word so often, and have no idea how the concept really works. I just can't figure out why they are playing dumb yet.
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This is looking rough... Time for doubling up??
If so I'll take just about anyone
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Looking at the receipt, it says that there were 10 guests. Assuming that none of these drinks were shared with anyone else except for the White Russians (3) there were 129 drinks ordered. 12 drinks per guest =
I think it's a pretty big assumption that they weren't buying rounds for pretty much any girl in sight.
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Wow...can you imagine if he did decided to declare for the draft last year and some poor team in the top-5 drafted him? Particularly if the Rams decided to take him over Bradford?!?! What a disaster.
Furthermore, by staying at Washington another year, he likely cost himself about 60-70 million dollars. Poor guy.
If you believe that, you might be the only person.
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Locker looks great throwing the ball in gym shorts and a tshirt. However, when he has to stand in the pocket and read a defense, he falls apart pretty quickly.
Even that has been wildly inconsistent. He couldn't hit anything in the skills challenge at the end of the year.
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Watt at 3 would be worse than whitner at 8, and we still can't get over that on this board. I don't even want to know what it would be like around here if that happened.
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It's a pretty common party drug actually. Younger people mistakenly think it increases libido, so they assume it will make them super lovers or something.
It's also pretty common in steroid cycles
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Odd - knowing where the ball should go, and actually getting it there? Who would've thought....
Height, arm strength, speed all open up more windows for a qb and coach, but if you can't chose the right one or hit it- it doesn't much matter.
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Good post. I think right now you'd have to put coughlin ahead of rex/smith/mccarthy..of course, 10 yrs from now, who knows. Coughlin took the expansion Jaguars to the AFC championship game twice i think, and won the SB w/the Giants and has over 130 wins...imo, he's definitely within top 5 currently
I think a lot of people see a couple down years and forgot all the really good years that earned him the chance to weather the storms. Just cause some of the young guns haven't had their trouble yet, doesn't mean they won't. I'll guess one of them will be better than coughlin in the long run but who knows right now.
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#1- Belichick
#2- Reid
#3- Tomlin
#4- Peyton
#5- Coughlin
Even if he doesn't win a SB, Reid will have HOF worthy numbers as a head coach when it's all said and done. McCarthy won the super bowl this past year, but I wouldn't just go ahead and put him ahead of Reid. IMHO.
I dunno about coughlin but roughly...
McCarthy has a chance to be on that cusp.
Dont like mike smith - pull the Clements fumble and the Hartley missed chip shot and the falcons were only a wild card team. Doesn't have the track record to ignore this.
Rex needs more time- can his loudmouth strategy actually work long-term?
1- belichek, easy
2- tomlin - anyone argue?
3- Payton... SB win, built a team from scratch, distractions galore in the city- 2 NFC championship games in a couple years. Needs to do better with balanced consistent game plans.
4-Reid - can't win the big game? We only know this cause he coaches his teams into the big games EVERY year. He does something right.
5- I could see coughlin. He's had a couple down years but several good years. Of the Rex/smith/McCarthy.... Which will keep winning, which will trail off... I'm not sure but TC is probably right in the middle of that group.
Well, people are talking about them now. Not very positively, though.
Never won a playoff game, and VERY lucky this year... Above average but not elite.
The Hartley 29 yard miss?
The Clements pickoff and fumble?
The no call on that PI to win the ravens game?
Still good but... Not among the best.
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Just an FYI- houstons secondary was among the worst of not just the year, but probably up there with the worst I've seen in the last handful of years.
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I don't see that as being within the rules of how trades are done. What if those players are gone? What if they change their mind and you are stuck with Peterson? If that is how things get conducted on draft day, why don't they just throw darts at a board of names?
Agreed. It's too big a deal to do on a handshake. Like I said- what if vick gets arrested, Peterson hurt, something else? Suddenly one side can back out - no consequence. In fact- at that point following through would likely be penalized as this is illegal to begin with.
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Can't Andrew Luck decide he wants to be a multi-millionaire now & join any NFL team he wants?? Is this illegal like the draft is now?? The players crossed the lIne, why can't the college boys ?
If I was a top prospect & decided that playing for the Panthers didn't fit my needs, why couldn't I find the team that was best for my situation all the while getting rich doing so ? I'm one to wonder why the established systems are in place & how to challenge them, live strong.
Man - you just through the entire NFL upside down. And to think we were all here to witness it.
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Must have been stealing to feed his family- with the work stoppage and all.
Which owner will be first to be arrested?
Would you mind if the Bills trade back twice ??
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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i will say if they are seriously targeting ILBs, TEs, a RT etc... then go ahead and trade away. We will be able to get premiere players at non premiere positions in that area.
i just think we need a dominant pass rusher or qb, and without that -- it doesnt matter much, we will be third in the division at best and probably about 6-8th in the AFC. sure we might slide into the playoffs but without those two things we will never be truly competitive at the highest level. i also think those 2 positions have the potential to make the players we already have step up to a higher level. I bet that our whole D would look better with a Demarcus Ware, healthy shawne merriman type player. I think we have (pretty close to) 11 guys that can start, but we dont have any of those special players.
i just suspect someone HAS to slide. by the expert predictions gabbert, cam, locker, mallett, kap, dalton, and ponder have all been projected as early as late first/VERY early second. ive seen every single one of them projected at 3 or 34 depending on who you ask. i think you see as many of those go in the third as you do the first when all is said and done.
qbs arent like any other position in the draft, and its one of the few positions that guys like mcshay, kiper, and sirius nfl radio miss on by more than one round fairly regularly. Saying any qb, first round, and any team name will almost automatically get you more ratings than saying TE, guard, ILB, RT, safety etc..... if you a talking head. remember, these guys are driven by ratings, not by accuracy. we have seen pretty regularly that those two things are barely if at all related.
Remember how many teams that were considered absolutely desperate for QBs passed on Clausen who was a common pick for us at 9 last year? colt mccoy, one of those guys that was bantered about as a late one early two barely slid got picked in the third.
obviously that is one year, and two guys, but its rare to see a ton of guys in a "lackluster qb class" come off that early.