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  1. They were reimbursed about $2400 (triple the amount of the cost of the ticket), which I'd assume is the NFL's attempt to cover travel & hotel expenses. That's a lot of dough, but it adds up quick.

     

    If they are anywhere near the stadium a hotel is 300 a night, flights probably close to 1000 round trip, any rental cars etc are big $$. And that doesn't begin to address the people that bought on stubhub for $2500 a ticket cheap seats like these.

     

     

    As someone that tried to plan a SB trip on 2 weeks notice last year, let me remind you the costs are huge.

     

    Plus it's your vacation and you get to find out gameday and stand in lines for hours to watch on tv after all the hassle of planning the trip? Thy should've just said heres a cool 8-10k if you sign that you won't sue or speak to the press.

  2. Well you can try sarcasm here, however law says she's not a "kiddie." You may feel differently, but that doesn't mean one iota regarding the legality of 2 consenting adults.

     

    Legality and morality aren't always the same thing.

     

    It's one of those situations I'd probably give my friends a hard time about. You know, being 2 years removed from college and having a 17 year old on the side? It's just not the way our society normally works, yet alone to be a rich famous athlete and have a highschool girl on the side.

     

    As some of the jokes point out- the level of maturity should be something that turns him off. As a 24 year old he shouldn't want to hear about gym class, or how hard her algebra test is going to be. He shouldn't care about the SATs or prom. It's just such a different world and he's multiple life stages removed from it. He moved on to college and then moved on to the real world. While he talks about his next million dollar contract, his mortgage or work she's trying to decide where to go to college. The only way a guy goes for that is if he's hard up for women(not the case), is too immature for women his own age, or is on a bit of a power trip (it's easier to control a 17 yr old), or he gets off on the age and that's as far as he can legally go. It's just basic psychology that says it's abnormal, even if it's totally legal. I can't imagine a larger 7 year gap in day to day lifestyle, experience etc....

     

    Sure it's not illegal but it's definitely not "ok." obviously he even had second thoughts if he said he'd wait til she was 18.

  3. As for the "we don't need DLine help we drafted troup/carrington"

     

    I must say, would it be that bad to have more then one good player at the position? Heaven forbid one of those guys is hurt, or doesn't develop, or can't play 70 snaps a game? Would it really be that terrible if a DT is bpa to build the unit into a strength?

  4. This is just one book, but I'd lay a cool G on New England at 8:1 especially with all their draft picks this year.

     

    Ya know what's funny is that Denver is at 60:1 while we're at 100:1. As a team, I'd say we're probably a year ahead of them because we acknowledged we were re-building a year before they did. There's no way they're in any better shape than us. The only reason they have better odds is because they're the Broncos and we're, well, the Bills.

     

     

    Part of it, their division. They are closer to making the playoffs then we are. Effectively we have to beat the pats AND jets.

  5. If that's what it takes to "get it up" for game time. I don't care as long as they explode on the opposing QB.

    :nana:

     

    New nickname: the money shot? He should be on our o line....

     

    If we get him in Rd 1, and the best DE, or DT(and kick kw to end) left in rd 2 I won't be sad. It seems there's a ton of value on the dline around 34. We will see tho.

  6. In today's world do guys ever really add muscle? How many of these college athletes can actually add muscle to their frame without juice? And even if they do add twenty pounds there is no way that doesn't affect their quickness. In addition to not drafting guys that haven't played their projected position in the NFL, how about we just draft guys that are all grow'd up???

     

    You mean let's get guys that are already freaks? Not hope they turn into them? Let me repeat 4.38 dash at 265 lbs. Beat peppers in both bench press and in the 40 by over a tenth of a second. How many of our receivers could out run him? Evans and Parrish?

     

    If choosing between two guys that are strong for their size.... Why not the monstrous one not the undersized one?

     

    I still vote dareus right now, but Quinn is over miller in my book

  7. Given how weak their overall division is, Cardinals have the best chance. Get themselves a current NFL in the offseason like McNabb, Young or Kolb, a good draft and I could easily see them recapturing 1st place.

     

     

    I was going to say 4th in the NFC west but didn't remember if it was 49ers or cards. Whoever gets a qb wins it I think.

     

    NFC east - Dallas or wash are possible- both 4? Games back.

     

     

    Afc west -- Maaaaybe?

  8. I just looked at another LB Clay Matthews 6'3" tall 255 if Miller can gain 18 lbs & play like this guy i'm all in !!! just to answer my own question !

     

    Might be written by a family member with all the unabashed praise but....

     

    http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/425166-robert-quinn-the-monster-off-the-edge

     

    Von millers physical talent can be had later. Quinns can't. Just something to think about. Obviously there's a lot of other factors but running a 4.38 at 265 and holding the schools strength records for the d-line.... Beast of rare form. Definitely question marks though.

  9. Actually, it was the Steelers players who told th press about the trick plays. Guess the reporter wansn't suppose d to talk about that conversation for some reason.

     

    If you players are dumb enough to tell your secrets to a reporter, I don't see how the reporter is is bound to keep such "secrets".

     

     

    If these coaches were really worried about people knowing their plays before the SB, they would allow 400 family members, friends, entourages, etc to witness their walk thoughs. It's all posturing.

     

    I think there's a difference in the plays run at a more open practice. I dont think the saints practiced the onside kick with everyone present. The reporters are absolutely not supposed to share things like that. They get brought into the loop on a lot of little secrets and then when the play is run they are allowed to say "yea they had been practicing that all week..." And be prepared to have an informed discussion about why they targeted that defense, whether it generally worked out, maybe even have randel els career stats prepped. They are absolutely privy to things that the other teams coaching staff isn't supposed to be.

  10. There's one for sure. Some others I can recall projected top 10 that were available @9 were Brandon Spikes, Jimmy Clausen and Derrick Morgan. NoSaint probably right on Pouncey not being that high a projection (had to jog memory to last year's draft, not this year's performance.)

     

    I would add that BPA mentality does not mean taking consensus BPA, it means taking who you rank BPA.

     

    Pure talent Dez was in the discussion but had many question marks on work ethic and attitude. Still a lot of questions a year in to his career.best case scenario I couldnt see him staying in buffalo a day longer then he had to.

     

    Derrick Morgan seems like a 4-3 end to me. Gailey coached him at tech so I have to imagine they had a good read on his ability to contribute to the plan.

     

    The other two were available and we passed on them in the second round.

     

    Spikes almost made it to the third.

     

    I really do think spiller was at lowest a top ten pick on any board, and possibly at the top of ours(I think lowest he was ranked was 4-5). Suh may have dropped a little being evaluated for a 34 defense, and bradford wasn't a gimme coming from a spread and off an injury.

  11. Good question. Maybe Pouncey, but Bills thought they were set at Center.

     

    I guess... Just thinking back though, iupati was the next interior lineman on almost every board and pouncey was consistently around #20 in rankings I remember. When was the last time a center went top ten? Not meant as an insult, I'm actually curious. I never saw spiller outside 5-10 at the very latest last year. I think he was BPA and it helped that we had marshawn on the way out and fjack being older.

  12. Folks get a grip. Spiller was not BPA. He was need. Writing was on the wall Lynch would not be a Bill by the end of the season. They first tried moving him in the offseason, unsuccessfully. And as the trade deadline loomed it forced them to move him for less than they wanted. In any case, Lynch's day in a Bills uniform were clearly numbered even before the Spiller pick. He didn't want to be here, they didn't want him ... does that sound like the basis for a long term plan? :doh:

     

    Not saying spiller was definitely bpa buuuut who else would have been considered bpa besides him?

  13. Another, fine:

     

    Rex Grossman

     

    (29 score, 30 starts, 61% completion)

     

    This is too easy.

     

    i guess im not sure what argument you are making.... that qbs that dont fit those criteria are better in general?

     

    I'd take Marino over Fitzpatrick.

     

    Also, Marino plus the 90's Bills would have done just as well as Kelly in regards to team success. Put Marino on 90's Cowboys, probably would have won a few rings there. A QB can't carry any entire team, imho.

     

     

    very true -- pick possibly the greatest ever not to fit the criteria, and compare to one that played football in the ivy league, and is very much in the lower tier of the list in success.... and you came out ahead on your end.

     

     

    would you disagree that someone with below average IQ would likely have a harder time playing qb (making reads, leading men etc..), especially in the biggest games?

     

     

    i agree that there are many other factors, but i guess im not sure what the point you are trying to argue is? we have all accepted it is not a law of the universe but instead something that helps predict and generally manage the huge number of variables that you have to take into account when evaluating a qb.

     

    essentially by taking the three numbers you are saying someone that is mentally sharp, well prepared, consistently accurate, with a great deal of experience and limited injuries tends to be a better prospect then someone who is missing some of those qualities. i suppose i dont get the arguments against this?

  14. Tramon Williams (UFDA), Tom Crabtree (from KC PS), Sam Shields (UFDA), Frank Zombo (UFDA) say hi and wave their SB rings at you. It matters not where they come from the important thing is if they can play the game.

     

    i think thats one of the few places we do excel. if we hit on our early picks we would have a qb (we ended up with losman, bledsoe and RJ with our 3 first round picks spent in the last 12 years instead), a franchise back(henry, mcgahee, marshawn, spiller), a franchise pass rush rusher(oh maybin, how you kill me), and a LT (mckinney rather then williams) that would probably be nearing the end of a very good career. our team has a lot of good depth, and even steals (greer, fredjack, peters, williams) just a total black hole of elite talent at the top of the draft. i hate the we shouldve wouldve couldve threads, but i believe in this case, it illustrates that the difference isnt the bottom of the draft, its the top that sets us back.

  15. I agree that you can use statistics to predict the odds, but seldom can use them to predict the odds with 100% certainty. That being said, a few examples where a model doesn't work do not invalidate the model--unless of course the model had been intended to predict success with 100% accuracy. For example, if 80% of the new hires with engineering degrees were able to handle the technical aspects of a position, as compared with only 20% of people who had no college degrees, a hiring manager should tend to hire people with engineering degrees. (Even though you could point to individual examples of engineers who'd failed and non-graduates who'd succeeded in the position.)

     

    It's worth noting that the Wonderlic is a flawed measure of intelligence. For example, there are general knowledge questions. These types of culturally loaded questions are something one would hope to avoid on a well-designed intelligence test. (Even if there is a correlation between knowledge of such questions and g.) There are also time dump questions--an important fact to note, because test-takers are not given enough time to complete all the questions. (Unless they are very, very fast.) I could imagine, say, Dan Marino walking into the Wonderlic test without having done much, if any, prior preparation for it. He answers several normal questions correctly, then comes to a time dump question. He burns a ton of his time there, he may or not get the right answer, and finds that when the time for the test is up he's left numerous questions unanswered. Something like that would produce an artificially lowered score that would significantly understate his true level of intelligence. (Which is why it's extremely poor test design to include time dump questions on tests where participants aren't given enough time to complete all the answers.)

     

    Despite its flaws, the Wonderlic is almost certainly strongly correlated with intelligence on a broad scale. That's why it's possible to incorporate Wonderlic scores into a model designed to work most of the time; even though you obviously couldn't use them if the model had to work 100% of the time.

     

     

    I generally agree with this 100% - the one thing I would add is it does measure both intelligence AND preparation. Both are important for a qb, probably more then anyone else on the field. Especially in a big game like the superbowl. I want a qb that knows when it's time to buckle down in addition to the intelligence end. As the test is no surprise, a lack of prep speaks volumes.

     

    I don't think a 28 vs a 32 is a big deal, but to me a 15 vs a 30 is a major red flag.

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