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I hope you're being sarcastic
Very much.
DW has coached defenses his whole life. Technique between the two schemes is only so different. He has also been a headcoach that has gameplanned against the 34 and scouted players coming out of 34 schemes. Not to mention he probably has a lot of close friends and colleagues that he has probably discussed some of it's principals with.
I'm pretty sure even if we never have 4 men with their hand on the ground, he will be a huge asset.
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Definetly, if Fairley and Green are gone...
People are likening Devlin to Flacco
i like flacco more then fitz, and would trade a two for him today. that said, i dont love flacco, and wouldnt risk a pick on a guy that might be like him, and gets the comparison easily by going to the same school
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...JUCO? Really? 13th grade? The guy in 1 year has accomplished more then I have in my life, I am sure, but some things you just don't have to mention...
Also, I researched it, he was captain of his class dodgeball team in 3rd grade that won the recess championship October 17, 1998. He is just all around champion.
lets be honest, its something. maybe not a huge deal, but he handled business that he should have. if he couldnt lead them to a championship we might be talking about it. he won the games he was supposed to - more then can be said about our bills. i seem to remember us losing a lot of games that should have been cakewalks. im not sold on cam, but i am fascinated by the prospect. he seems to have some warts, but quite honestly hes done everything hes been asked to do, except for keep his hands off money/computers he shouldnt have.
i know its clearly a knock that he hasnt had to read a defense or go through progressions, but right now i cant say that its because he cant. just because they simplify college schemes doesnt mean he couldnt have handled a more complex one. just cause he was such a good runner that he felt that better then going to a 3rd and 4th option doesnt mean he didnt know what those guys were doing. he never had to line up under center but his footwork today was immaculate, and he displayed good mechanics, and balance. maybe the mental part is there, but he never had to show it.
it could mean he flat out doesnt get it. but until chan sits down with him in a film room, i dont think we will know whether or not hes our guy. i promise he will be in for a visit at OBD though, and they will drill him hard.
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"36% never play again."
of course, 35% are 36 when it happens !
seems unusual for someone about 24 to have one of these, but he's got years to come back from it and has far too much talent to pack it in. my money(not much) says he comes back strong.
~ AS
It's normally a two year return, if you do. It's rough.
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That does suck for him. Dont totally remember his story but I seem to recall him being a good kid going into the draft last year. Not just a good player, but person too. It'll be a shame if this is the end of the road for him
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just what we need
another cocky over-confident clown who has never coached the 3-4 defense he is so confident of fixing
It's true, if you've never been dc for a 3-4, you can't know anything about it
Dick Lebeau would be baffled in a meeting room discussing the 4-3.
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I'm curious as to why you say this. Seems like it would be more like a yellow cautionary flag in racing; keep your position order, but gaps close a bit.
there is no clause, it would have to be decided in the cba negotiations, and the guess is based off what other leagues have done in the past
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I know what you mean, see my last post...
I cannot tell you who he was but I can promise you that those will be worn next year.
ever get a feeling on a thread like this, that it will stay at the top of the board for two weeks, while one with really good analysis of a player will drop like a brick after 3 posts?
for some reason i have that feeling about this one
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I may be alone here but while this deal is awesome I would rather get their first round pick next season rather than a second this year. Having two first round picks next season (one if not both of those picks being pretty high) it would give them the ability to make a serious move for Luck ... It's a gamble yes, but worth it. A least to me ...
until there is a cba, no trades for next years picks.... just throwing it out there as a reminder going forward.
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so does Nix, in his Sr Bowl vid interview w/ Chris Brown
although i will say i think that includes nix being very confident in merriman.
do you go into next year with Moats, Merriman, and Kelsey as your top 3?
A small school late round prospect that has shown flashes of good, but as other have said, many concerns
Merriman off of several injuries, juice, etc.... will he play a single snap? will he be good if he does? gut says yes, but it might hope over reason at this point
and i wont even talk about kelsay...
it could be a smokescreen by nix, it could be confidence in merriman, but if you ask me, i wont be upset if they go Quinn at 3. Heaven forbid we have a rotation, depth, and too many playmakers at our playmaker position.
that said, i think we need help at DT, DE, and ILB too. Drafting a big DT could kick KW out to DE, and help the LB crew too. I think we need to pump resources into DT and OLB until they are elite, at which point I think we see a lot of improvement from the guys around them. In the 3-4 it seems like you can get away with regular guys at end and inside backer, if you have talent in front of those average linebackers, and behind those average ends.
If DE or ILB lines up as a best player available, ala Dareus possibly, i think you go for it, but when targeting talent on our roster I stockpile other places.
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just throwing it out there -- might we squash this thread, or atleast redo the title and acknowledge this did not come from the bills but was taken from a poster on this board, and is now making the rounds as a bills leak?
it seems even after it has been established as totally false, a lot of people are only reading the first post.....
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The players didn't really give back 10%. They're also changing the calculations. As a percentage of all revenue the players get between 50% and 52% most seasons. So at best, they're giving up a couple percentage points. That's still tens of millions of dollars, of course, but it's not a sweeping concession.
Not that it's at all clear that it would be fair for the players to give back any of their share from the last deal. The league is still overwhelmingly profitable at the current rates.
from the numbers i heard today, they offered 51-49. The highest it has hit in the last ten years was about 52% even, with most years being a shade under 51% when you do calculations. I saw a lot of 50.5% range numbers quoted. I just glimpsed at some reports, so I cant quote the exact numbers but that 50.5% was what my gut told me the meaty section of the bell curve was, and it really never did get out of 50-52% for sure.
If the norm is 50.5ish give or take, and the players offered 51, then they have actually upped their share of the pie compared to historical averages, or at best kept it flat.
The way they did it though seemed to split the difference of 18% that the NFL is citing, dropping a 58-59% down to 50-51, and makes it look like a compromise to the average fan, but they have been nice enough to casually downplay that they are including more then a billion dollars in the pie they want to split up.
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He says these are the new unis
heres the post from yesterday--
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He says these are the new unis
im pretty sure someone posted those on this very website under a post saying "hey look at what i was playing with -- think the bills will like them" but with a lot more write up for why he made EVERY single little choice including number of stripes, thicknesses, colors.... i very much remember it but dont care to look for it.
confirm/deny?
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How is having a media day "causing trouble"?
You mean by bringing in folks to show them he is actually working very hard, and developing/improving his throwing motion? Man, what a thug....
i think the concern is that he may have put himself ahead of the established system a time or two in the past......
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Man, I will say, for such a hyped up event, and with most of the media clamoring for sports news... Im a little disappointed by the lack of coverage coming out so far. Nothing, or not much, on ESPN or NFLN. I was hoping for some videos and reports by now...
dilfer has been LOVING him.
says hes a monster, had great footwork/balance, very fluid, made throws with anticipation and great mechanics.
still curious if he can make the reads, but it sounds like the early word is very positive, and trent tends to be objective.
RED FLAG ALERT !!!!
just another example of this guy causing trouble....buyer beware...he is going to be very difficult to sign and deal with.....a "media" workout with not a single scout allowed to attend?...what a joke.....i'll give ya he is gifted physically.....it's his ethics, INTELLIGENCE reading defenses and work/study habits thats going to be a problem.
arent there rules in place currently -- only workouts can be at the combine, a proday in the prospects hometown/at their college campus, or on an official visit?
i still think its off base but can be read a few different ways.
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The Bills did end up moving him to LB before he left, and he probably did about as well as he's doing for Atlanta...decent but not certainly not great.
The bigger point is something that I comment on every now and then...from a fan perspective, NOBODY is good enough to be a backup on the Bills. Despite being a cheap, good team guy who never mouthed off, a VERY solid special teams player, and a "good enough" backup LB and safety (certainly more LB than safety), people around here absolutely blasted him. Harsh, over the top criticism. They couldn't wait to see hime go. I'm pretty sure I remember the thread when he was let go...it was nothing but "good riddance" type posts.
I fully get the aggravation over personnel decisions that had Coy Wire starting at safety for too long, but I'll never understand the mentality that says because someone isn't talented enought to start, they are despicable people that should be ridiculed and run out of town. Personally, I would take Wire as a special teamer and back-up LB. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a huge loss. It's just an attitude I don't get.
especially with a player like wire, i didnt get it. at the time you could argue he was as good a backup LB as anyone we had or planned on bringing in, but a better special teamer then anyone that would be replacing him at LB.
I think part of the team being willing to part ways was a worry about his neck injury - if i remember correct he failed physicals before being released/reaching an injury settlement or whatever it was at that point in the offseason. to be totally speculative, i wouldnt be surprised if the neck injury on the heels of the kevin everett incident made the trainers and management a little more hesitant to invest in him. a special teams demon like coy takes weird hits and with disc issues, i think everyone was a little concerned he would end up hurt badly if he continued.
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truly, i dont think this is a situation that you look at a guy like moats and say pass on anyone this year. hes unproven, and quite frankly we need a solid 6-7 very good lbs on the roster next year.
right now we have
moats
merriman
hopefully poz?
i dont think you skip on an elite talent because of anyone on this roster this year. even the fact that you dont know if moats will want to re-up when his deal is done. or if he could get injured.
i want the dilemma of getting too many talented players on the field. i want talent on the bench for when people get dinged.
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Carolina should be interested in Kolb! No inside info on whether they're exploring that option. That'd work for both teams.
Here is a sim of the Bills-SF trade scenario (this could also be for Gabbert, not just CB):
Bills acquire DT in Free Agency.
1 7 Marcell Dareus DE34 Alabama
2 34 Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame
2 45 Andy Dalton QB TCU
3 68 Sam Acho OLB34 Texas
4 99 Owen Marecic ILB Stanford
4 107 Chris White ILB Mississippi State
4 121 Marcus Gilbert OT Florida
5 130 James Brewer OT Indiana
6 164 Shane Vereen RBF California
7 195 Jordan Cameron TE USC
There will be good value in the late (RD5-RD7) rounds this year for TE, RB, and CB.
4-3 DT's will come off the board slower than 3-4 DT's.
There will be early runs on DE and the better OT's.
I was right on my predictions last year!
i take it -- puts you in a great spot to choose between dareus and quinn, pick up a player and save cash. even if one is off the board i dont think both are at that point.
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Jim Leonhard. Rex Ryan made sure to bring him from Baltimore to the Jets when he took over that team. And the Jets defense seemed to be less effective this past season after he was hurt.
id argue that is a product of not physical ability but understanding rexs defense so well that he is essentially a secondary coach on the field. i think that he and bart scott just "get" that defense. in leondhards case it is much easier to be the back end help behind those strong corners and pass rushes. in buffalo a lot more would have been asked of him physically.
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1.) Most of those were designed QB runs, not a lack of ability to read the defense on his part. He's doing what he's told to.
2.) Those runs accounted for over 1000 YDS. and last time I check rushing yards count just as much as passing yards. Everyone loves Vick for his highlight reel runs, but everyone seems to be bashing Newton for his.
1)thats the problem, weve never seen a qb come from a spread option offence and succeed.
2)at this point i think most realize that those runs lead to a sore, jumpy, innaccurate qb that misses games and by the time the playoffs roll around hes beaten up like vick. i dont think its a coincidence that he started the season as healthy as he has ever been and ended it beaten up and playing like we are used to, electric but inconsistent.
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ummmm i will say he had a major neck issue the year we let him go (didnt he have vertebrae fused or something big along those lines?)
hes been respectable but not great in atlanta. i think if you asked the average NFC South fan who he is, most would need some help figuring it out. i did love his work ethic and character (and i mean football even more then personal -- he never took shortcuts or plays off). i dont think hed be on this squad today based on his abilities and our needs though.
i will say that i agree about not letting talent go, but i dont think this is a prime example though
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As seen by whom? This 'event' is open to the media, not scouts etc.
are you implying that the scouts will have no idea what goes on at this event? do you not think that any team even halfway thinking about him wont have scouts on that field with a pair of those glasses with the fake nose and mustache?
if you are debating giving him 50 mil, you will spend a couple bucks on getting a press pass == atleast thats the guess id venture. at the very least they will get every second of the film
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It will be perfectly scripted. The worries with Newton are clear as day - he will present a dog and pony show and this will only bolster his stock. He can throw the ball well, his problems extend far beyond that aspect.
There's been some early backlash. The dog and pony show might turn off some GMs. If he's immaculate on the field it'll be easy to forget some of the obvious off field warts
Jon Corto signs extension...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Counterintuitive but the best way to get rid of them and improve the team longterm might be to resign them. If we are always looking for replacements we never find upgrades. If we have to fill 20 holes it's tough to upgrade the roster. If we have a full team we can focus on improvements.
I think it goes to the idea of not letting talent walk til you have a better option.