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    PSL Pricing/Seat Selection Discussion

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    For a 15 year old memory I’ll take it being more like .8 than 1.5 for the non participating team and pretty darn close on the participating ones. 
     

    I have zero recollection on the other percentages though. By the time you get through the million different allotments I think adds up fast.

     

    PSL Pricing/Seat Selection Discussion

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    29 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Super Bowl tickets have always been a lottery system. It was always based on seniority. My guess is it is a combination of seniority and spend but don’t know the exact formula. It’ll be weighted somehow but not sure exactly how. 

     

    I don’t know if it’s common knowledge but each team gets a substantial allotment of Super Bowl tickets whether they are in the game or not. I don’t remember the specifics but pretty sure that it’s at least 1,000. I reached out to a friend to confirm that number and will update once he responds. If you do the math though & 30 teams not participating account for 30k tickets, the league & it’s sponsors must be another 5k-10k. That leaves roughly 20k per participating team. By the time you address the internal needs / sponsors they probably have 15k seats available for a lottery of season ticket holders.


    Yea, don’t quote me on numbers but I recall from the saints Super Bowl that each team gets like 1.5% of the inventory and the teams in the game get like 5% additional (those numbers are almost certainly off but at least vaguely in the ballpark)

     

    Then the league gets a chunk, sponsors, media, the host city team received a bump up in their allotment, etc…. 

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    Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one

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    4 minutes ago, Logic said:


    Yeah.

    The other problem is that the Bills likely aren't the only team that doesn't have 28 first round grades on players this year, so why would trading all the way back to 28 be particularly attractive to anyone?


    because every teams needs are different

     

    while we have one huge hole and are contenders, another team could really value multiple picks and pushing some of that value back a year to better meet their window (maybe a more developmental project plus picks next year instead of an instant impact)

    Legette vs. McConkey

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    11 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    This is a tough question for me. I’d love to answer “both.” Legette has the higher ceiling IMO. McConkey certainly has the higher floor. I think McConkey will be better in 2024 because he’s more refined at this point.
     

    The answer is that you actually need BOTH of those skill sets still on this team. If forced to choose, I’ll say Legette because what he has is harder to teach. I can find a guy a little later, albeit smaller, but that also separates in Jacob Cowing. I think that it’s easier to find good footwork than it is to find that size/speed combination.


    it’s also cheaper/easier to find a lunch pail guy than an elite traits guy in free agency 

     

    Also- I swear I meant that as a hard working technician of the game and not as a white guy

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    Gunner's 2024 Draft Quarterback Evaluations

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    I’ll be totally honest - I’ve spent very little time with a lot of these qbs…. But I don’t think this will be a memorable class 10 years from now. 
     

    I wouldn’t be shocked if the top guy of the class lands somewhere in that cousins/dak/herbert range (viable starter, but not top 5 tier player) and I think the rest will be huge disappointments. 
     

    I think there are quite a few that lose coaches and GMs jobs and it’ll be interesting to see if some of them slide more than expected or if the feeding frenzy happens 

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    I have a problem with Cooper Dejean type players

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    2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

    Maybe the guy becomes great…

     

    but IMO it would be a horrific use of a premium draft pick.

     

    I would much rather try to sign Justin Simmons this summer or draft a Safety in Round 4 or 5 that can compete
     

    or if you project him as a corner…we are OK there for this season.  


    Do I think he’d be good in this defense? Sure. Does the pick move the needle at all for our record? Not really. 
     

    as you say, we could look at a guy like Thomas or Mitchell plus Simmons… or for same investment dejean plus Tyler Boyd? 
     

    seems easy to me. 

    I have a problem with Cooper Dejean type players

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    8 hours ago, Brandon said:

     

    No,  I'm not joking at all.  I don't think most NFL teams are going to be guilty of it,  but outside of that,  a lot of people are going to take one look at a white guy playing CB in college and immediately assume that he should move to safety in the NFL.   Maybe if he'd posted some pedestrian numbers at his pro day.  Instead,  it was borderline freakish,  especially for a guy one month clear off a broken leg.  


    I absolutely think some coaches will be subject to following the subconscious stereotype. 
     

    no catastrophic harm but you watch the film and the comps that jump to mind inevitably will share some physical characteristics. Our brains naturally create buckets for patterns. No white guys play corner isn’t an absurd one to instinctually have lingering back there somewhere 

     

    fair to him? Probably not. In the scope of we are all human for better or worse? For sure. 

    Pre-Draft Power Rankings from PFF plus where do you expect the Bills to be perceived after the draft

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    3 hours ago, MDH said:

    The Athletic did a similar exercise a week or so ago. They didn’t share the metrics they used but the Bills came in as the 4th best team in the league based on roster construction. I think that’s a tad high and it’s somewhere in between 4 and 10.


    I tend to agree 

     

    and think they could substantially fill major holes immediately instead of minor upgrades or long term projects.

    Pre-Draft Power Rankings from PFF plus where do you expect the Bills to be perceived after the draft

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    4 hours ago, Chaos said:

    Whatever you think about PFF, they do try to quantify things that are tough to quantify.  And whatever you think of power rankings, during the off-season, that is as good a way as any to see how the Bills are perceived  https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-power-rankings-nfl-teams-before-2024-nfl-draft.

    At the present, PFF sees the Bills ranked 10th. 

    I am not sure what people expect from any NFL draft.  Every team picks players. Every team is trying to improve.  A couple of teams drafting top QBs, may be looking to completely transform, their fortunes.  But if your team is drafting 28th, its reasonable to expect that around 27 teams are better positioned to improve than your team is. 

    Is there any reason to expect the Bills to outperform other teams with similar or more draft capital? If so why? 

    Separately, do you think most pundits/fans see the Bills has a top 10 before the draft, and will any the draft move anyone's opinion one way or the other?
     


    if you don’t think they are top ten, you don’t understand how qb driven the league is. 
     

    as to whether they improve more than average- I think having a massive hole at the best position in the draft allows for a very large delta.
     

    Moving wr1 from worst to middle of the pack is a huge change; while another team going from a dine enough to a good safety probably won’t see the same change on the field 

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