Talley56

Perhaps, but if a thread hadn't already been started on Chandler I was going to start one. I think he takes so much criticism that it's only fair he gets credit. He may have alone kept us from getting smoked in this game. He's always been a reliable target IMO. No, he's no Gates, Witten, or Gonzalez, he's had his issues and made his mistakes but I just feel like more often than not he's made plays and been a solid TE. Blocking on the other hand may be an issue for him.

I thought our o-line got away some pretty key holds today but on the other end there were some absurd calls that hurt us. Two offensive PI's on the same drive were hideously bad: Sammy called for a pick when he ran into two defenders just simply running his route then Woods barely touches a defender and gets called for a push-off (made worse by the fact that Edelman blatantly shoves Mckelvin and nothing is called on him). I won't even go into whatever the heck they called Hughes for on that unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. While I feel like those should be mentioned, at the end of the day, it was our own mistakes that killed us. The three turnovers in the first half, particularly CJ's fumble with 6 seconds left. Then giving them the sideline pass on the next play knowing that's what they would be doing to get into closer field goal range. While they did outplay us in the second half I feel like those first half mistakes snowballed into the second half. The Pats were just, as usual, better than us.

I might suggest the Bengals unless you're hoping to use them in a later week. They are going to be angry after last Sunday night and I don't think Carolina is really a 3-2 caliber team.

All of these receivers have had competent to really good QBs throwing to them for most of their carreers. Can you imagine what Sammy's numbers would be like if we had a QB who could hit him in stride?

And stop headbutting players.

I felt like EJ got away with intentional grounding earlier on that last drive so I don't think we have much to complain about when it comes to officiating.

The last time I can think of where we played a former Bills QB was in 2001 when Flutie played for the Chargers and beat us on a last minute TD run. Anyone have a more recent moment I'm not thinking of?

This is a little melodramatic. The line didn't play great but EJ had enough opportunities where he didn't face pressure and still made bad throws.

All in all, I think we've looked like the best team in the division in the first three weeks, with respect to the fact that the Jets haven't played yet this weekend. We lost to a good Chargers team today while the Patriots barely beat a weak Raiders team. The Dolphins got manhandled by the Chiefs who until today hadn't resembled last year's team that made the playoffs. NE won at Minnesota and while they dominated that game the Vikings were without Adrian Peterson. Meanwhile, we go to Chicago and beat a much better Bears team. Not saying we are going to win the division, but I like how we've looked all things considered and I'm certainly not giving up on us.

"LA is never going to get their hands on our teams"

You know, I voted Orton, but as someone who has not been impressed with EJ (even in the games we won) I think we need him to stay in and get better. Orton would be a band-aid. Giving EJ time and experience in hopes that he eventually turns the corner might be frustrating right now but would be our best chance at seeing things get better for this team down the road.

The line wasn't great today but EJ definitely threw a number of bad balls when he had plenty of time and space to step into his throws. He just isn't good. The only different between him and Fitz/Trent/all other previous QBs we ran out of town is that he has significantly more talent around him to work with on both sides of the ball than they did. Today, that talent just didn't show up.

I think we need to play well at least into November to start getting respect. That was about the time we started falling apart the last two seaons where we started strong. Assuming we can keep up this strong start, November will be the month that should tell us whether this team really is different or whether this is just another 2008/2011.

As far as CBS goes, I'm not sure how we are 6 spots below a team we beat on the road, below an 0-2 team, and the Cardinals, who IMO haven't beaten the combined quality of competition we have, are at number 3. But it's too early and we have 14 more games to jump ahead. We do better when people doubt us anyway.

And look who's at number 2.

Exactly, thank you! Even Fitz and Edwards played good effeicient games for us and got us off to nice starts to a season (2008, 2011). And they did it with significantly less WR talent.

Don't get me wrong, I am happy we are 2-0, but how in the world can anyone think EJ has done well? He has thrown some awful balls in the first 2 games. Fortunately, we have some really good receivers who have bailed him out by making nice catches. Last week Woods and Williams had to reach for balls where they were wide open and never should have been that off. Today, he threw some more balls to guys who were wide open and yet they had to reach for the ball. That over throw to Sammy in the endzone (think it was just before our third field goal) was inexcusable even for a young QB. The only time he made good throw was when Sammy broke wide open across the middle (so open it was next to impossible to miss him). And then to not be able to get the ball in the endzone after a blocked punt? That was just poor. I certainly don't want to sound like a negative-nelly after a 2-0 start. Again, I am glad we won, don't get me wrong, and I think all around we have a lot of talent to work with, but face it, a lot of it has been our defense, receivers, and as far as today goes, a bad day by Miami's punter.

The Windy city miracle???

Good: Win, Glenn owning Allen Bad: EJ's throws where the receivers bailed him out. Woods and WIlliams both nearly got killed when they were wide open and had to reach for bad passes. EJ has to learn to control those throws. Ugly: Personal foul call on Chandler. He simply pancake blocked the defender and probably just didn't hear the whistle. Potentially costed us 3 points

I seem to remember a few years back when we began the year at KC against the Chiefs. We were coming off a 4-12 season while they had just own the AFC West. Hardly anyone gave us a chance and we went in and mopped the floor with them. Similar situation, even though the Bears missed the playoffs last year, but this time instead of a blowout win I think we come up short but closer than the experts think: Bears 23 Bills 20 Pats 28 Phins 17 (we remain the last team to beat the Patriots in an openning day game) Jets 24 Raiders 3

Run Fred Jackson 1 yard

Dropping the Yankees was a great choice.

Baltimore area and I'll admit I was excited when the Ravens won the superbowl both times. It was just fun seeing all the celebrations in the area and all. In general I like to see the Ravens do well but I don't hate the Steelers. Ultimately, Bills come first.

"EJ sucks"

Patriots??? What?? Did they even have fans before the Brady/Belicheck era??