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He had pretty good defenses (not amazing), one good wide receiver (before DeSean Jackson came along) who threw him under a bus after only one and a half seasons, and a running back who was injured most of his career. He didn't have much to work with in Philly and yet they were good year after year. The Eagles would have been a playoff team maybe 2 or 3 times without McNabb and yet they went to 5 championship games with him. For that reason, I am not a fan of drafting Cam but if we do I will give him a chance and reserve the boos for the field if he does indeed turn out to be a bust.

1. Bowers - This is more of a risk then before with the knee surgery but I still think with that aside he's the best front 7 player in the draft 2. Quinn - Has doesn't take plays off and he has good size and strength with more explosiveness most of the other d-linemen IMO. Last year's suspension doesn't bother me. 3. Peterson - DB is not one of our greatest needs but when a guy is being compared to Champ Bailey I would not have a problem if we drafted him

I get that Vick had a great year but I don't think someone who has already been on the cover once should get on again. Not voting for him!

Beat me to it

Let them have him. We're 3-0 against him.

I've been a big fan of picking this guy in the 3rd round if he's there. I like his athleticism, leadership, and experience playing the position. While I'm still not a Chan backer I do believe that he can correct any downside to Kaepernick's game. He could turn out to be like Jamarcus Russell with no pocket awareness and no accuracy or he could prove to have more than just a strong arm like Cutler did. I don't mind taking that chance in round 3.

I'd take Bowers over Dareus any day.

draft someone who will put Newton on his back 4 times the next time we play Carolina

I actually agree, I think this would be a great idea and send a strong message to sports in general particularly the next time something like this comes around. Unfortunately, I don't think too many people would go along with it.

I am also big on Quinn. In fact, I'd take him over Dareus. Dareus just seems too sluggish and poorly conditioned and Quinn seems to have a much better work ethic. The suspension doesn't bother me that much since it wasn't for criminal behavior or performance enhancers or anything like that.

I like the idea. I believe they did it once in the 93 season. While it might not make more money via ticket sales I would think it should make more money thorugh TV. Whenever the Bills are on a bye I don't just take the day off from watching football. I watch the next best game and I'm thinking most other people probably do too.

I know, how on earth is Cleveland not up there? They would probably be my number 1 with Buffalo in 2nd. I checked the rest of the top 10 and even though the Phillies won the world series a couple of years ago I was surprised to see that Philadelphia wasn't in the top 10 somewhere. The Eagles were basically the team of the last decade that most closely resembled us in the 90s.

This guy could improve our run defense dramatically (which should be our top priority). Not concerned about this surgery. I still say we will be making a huge mistake if he's there at 3 and we pass him up.

I hope not. Cromartie is terrible.

TSW Big Board ROUND ONE 1. --Marcel Dareus DT Alabama Bills should take Dareus over Bowers as a better all round fit and because hell be on the field for 3 downs, 2. --Nick Fairley DT Auburn A tad overrated, better in a 4-3, not a nose tackle per se, but surely a consensus top 5 for Bills, imagine Fairley, Troup, Williams in a rotation at DT 6. --DaQuan Bowers DE Clemson One year of great production slips him to here on the Nix-O-Meter. One season wonders drop, especially after Maybin. Sources confirmed that DaQuan Bowers/DE/Clemson underwent minor knee surgery in January to repair an injured meniscus: www.draftinsider.net 3. --Patrick Peterson CB LSU The Best CB in several seasons…most include Revis in that assessment, Listed as Safety at some sites but makes the better CB, great size for our divisions WRs, KR as well better than Dez Bryants numbers, able to track and break with the routes of the best WRs in the NFL (esp the AFC East). He also possesses outstanding ball-skills. He combines soft hands with a high-level football IQ to make a devastating break on the ball. Run support tackling is a flaw 4. --Robert Quinn OLB North Carolina Huge risk-reward pick that could change Bills fortunes, a humble, chiseled powerhouse, the sky is the limitnot sure if this chance is what Nix-Gailey would take 5. --Cameron Jordan DE California Jordan is versatile enough to play anywhere on the line and is a good player-- size, quickness, motor are all there, virtually unblockable with varied pass rush moves 7. --Von Miller LB Texas A & M Doesnt have Ideal size, but rare explosion. 4 tackles, 2 for loss at the Senior Bowl under Bills coaching. 27.5 sacks in two seasons. A film rat, Ive watched Clay Matthews. I like the way Ray Lewis plays. I like the way John Abraham plays, said Miller. I had a coach that coached Derrick Thomas, when he was in college and he said I played similar to him. Von Miller could fit in any defense, Gailey said, calling him explosive. 8. --Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska Amukamara might be a better Safety than a CB, but we could use either so its a moot point. Lack of speed (likely slower than 4.4, more like 4.5) -- proposing the idea that he might be an ideal candidate to make the move to free safety at the next level. well-rounded, solid prospect but lacks the elite athletic abilities of typical shutdown corners. He may eventually need to move to safet 9. --Martez Wilson ILB Illinois Physical, athletic, would make ideal complement to Poz, more scheme flexible than anyone we have at LB---ILB, Sam, Blitzer 10. --Cam Newton QB Auburn Raw, physical, great presence, a weapon with through the roof talent, especially with Spiller-Jackson-Parrish-Evans-Johnson. Media raved about his arm strength, smoothness, accuracy, and timing, as well as eloquence and humor. Things you need in Buffalo. 11. --A.J. Green WR Georgia Will be a true #1 receiver, will beat Crabtrees numbers in Year One (55 catches 741 yards and six TDs.), Ranked #1 on some Big Boards but drops to here on a Bills Board as less relative impact to the team we have 12. --Aldon Smith OLB Missouri Pierre-Paul-like but actually had more production. 13. --Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin #1 OT looked the best to me better than Sherrod--at the Senior Bowl; likely the missing link for the O-Line? Could be best RT in the NFL or one of best LTs in time. 14. --Julio Jones WR Alabama Greg Gabriel National Football Post prefers him over Green, and reliable route runner with great size, but he lacks the extra gear necessary to be a serious threat down the field. Additionally, his hands are somewhat inconsistent, especially compared to Green. Hes been banged up lots; could he ever get through 19 games? 15. --Jimmy Smith CB Colorado This is Smiths pre-combine spot; should drift into top 10 afterwards 16. --Brandon Harris CB Miami U Comparisons to Darrelle Revis have been made, but Im skeptical. Still Top 15 player 17. --Derrick Sherrod OT Mississippi State Was above average at the Senior Bowl; I liked Carimi better because his weakness can be remediated at the gym 18. --Mark Ingram RB Alabama Want a Heisman-winner at a loaded skill position? 19. --Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue Comparisons to Chris Long of the Rams, could dominate in 2-3 years 20. --Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh Wannstedt-scouted and signed; compared to Dwayne Bowes skills, would be red zone threat 21. --Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College Above average RT prospect, but hasnt done well against speedy guys like Moch and Friday 22. --Justin Houston OLB Georgia Better acceleration and sideline to sideline speed than Poz, just as productive in college, right-sized 23. --J.J. Watt DE Wisconsin I see Watt as Kerrigan with less upside. Added Mayock, Hes a beast. Hes a first-round pick. Mayock says he just finished watching tape on Watt, and ranked the onetime Central Michigan tight end as the premier 3-4 defensive end in the 2011 class. Cals Cameron Jordan and Ohio States Cameron Heyward are second and third, respectively. 24. --Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame Jason Witten type, injury concerns drop him to here, tight end who only caught 3 TDs last year.

Good, they can have him. Infact, I think we just found the team that we can trade down with.

I will admit I was a believer in Trent for a period of time. The game where I really knew I was wrong about him was the MNF game against Cleveland where he threw three pics to begin the game. There is a youtube video I was watching yesterday which included a game from a few years ago where we whooped Miami. He was spot on in that game and he actually threw the ball downfield. As I watched I kept thinking 'why couldn't we have seen this TE more often?'

I said Gabbert just because I think he is the best QB coming out and I think physically he has the best chance (height, strength, arm, etc). But I'm really not sold on this year's QB class. I couldn't even say other because there's really no one else I'm confident in except for maybe Devlin as a sleeper.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he hurt his first season?

+1 I haven't seen much mention of Bowers being our first pick around here and I can only hope that is because people think he won't be available for our pick. If he is still there at #3 and we pass him up we've made a big mistake.

I knew this rule existed in other leagues (CFL I believe) but I didn't realize it existed in the NFL. Interesting.

+2 As for the list, I think we are at a good spot though I feel like our 1990 team was better than the 92 Forty Niners.

Not sure how I'd react to a win but a loss? It would depend upon how we lost. If it was a blowout or we were just simply out-played I'd be bummed but then start to think of next season. However a close loss (such as the painful one 20 years ago tonight) I would probably agonize over every play all off-season thinking that play could have changed the outcome.

Maybe they weren't intended to open up the passing game but that's exactly what they have done. Defenders and pass rushers have eased up because of these rules and that has made a big difference in opening up the passing game.

Does it matter? Still a crappy way to treat an employee