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The concern is that Beane has not demonstrated that he can evaluate good talent. I think Whaley's was better especially with the later draft picks and in season replacements. Get Bridgewater or Fitz to start and to mentor Allen. We will probably draft in the top 5 this year and there should be a blue chip prospect there, if so get him so Allen and he will be mentored by the veteran.

I agree with the Bridgewater approach..it can happen this off season if Beane and McDermott can get off of the slow bus to success. Allen is a 3 year project so get Ted in the off season and don't hesitate to pick a more talented QB if available. I have watched all of the Bills games I don't remember any screen passes being run. It seems as though this would be perfect for a rookie QB. Daboll should go and take Peterman with him. It seems as though everyone is learning from the GM on down.

Until he starts fumbling the ball I don't think it is much of a problem.

After watching him with the Redskins as the rust wears off he will look more like Aaron Schobel but I like the Denny comparison.

I'm not sure how McD or Beane stand on racial issues. But they left the door open to that way of thinking by their actions with TT last year and with Peterman being so bad you couldn't discount race. With that being said they have made questionable decisions this year when race is not an issue regarding Peterman??? What do they see in him. I believe race may be more in the minds of some posters than in Bills management. Just mention Doug Whaley's name. Will Beane be held to the same level of expectation as Whaley on this board.

As soon as the season is over make Alex Van Pelt the associate OC or AHC. This would be an excellent choice

But it is part of the learning process and most vets will take the young guy under their wing. I cringe when I saw the story on how Tyrod was helping Baker Mayfield. I like Allen and Buffalo should afford him every opportunity to be successful.

We were never the laughing stock of the league with Marrone and he has arguably he best team in the league now. He took over a bad Jacksonville team now they are contending for a championship. As of now the answer is yes.

It was Whaley..let's give credit where credit is due.

We need a GM and coach that get 2-3 more wins a season from what we had last year. When you're 9-7 the quickest way to 12-4 is not going 3-13. What kind of a process is this. I question their ability to judge talent. Look at their free agents. I think McBeane is learning on the job, but no matter what anyone's process or rebuild is losing seasons should not be part of it. Both of these guys are unproven so I hate to see them get rid of the talent we had because they have no record of building a winning team or scouting good talent and we are beginning to see very questionable decision making.

If they continue to lose to the point where people stop buying tickets to the games. They will be removed immediately. No time frame on it. If the Bills get blown out over the next 2-3 games. You will see a dip in ticket sales. Guess what happens next.

I felt Teddy Bridgewater would have been an excellent vet for Allen to learn from. The Jets seems to have out strategized the Bills this off season while McBeane was giving away valuable draft picks. I think McBeane may have lost the hunger to win now since going to the playoffs last year.

Hindsight is 20/20. I can understand the first start for Peterman although I disagreed with pulling Tyrod. I'm sure McD wanted to see what the kid had and we saw quickly, went back to Tyrod and went to the playoffs for the first time in 17 years thus padding McBeane's ego somewhat. Peterman should have been cut in the off season but wasn't and this is where poor general management and coaching decision making come in. To make the same mistake twice is on McBeane. One of worst decisions of Bills management that I can remember. Starting Peterman was made by choice and not forced due to injuries. They have painted themselves in corner of not having a viable QB which demonstrates the lack of planning and talent assessing on their part. It has been a long time since we were the embarrassment of the league and we are now after one week. The good part is that it is only one week into the season and there is opportunity for them to prove themselves.

The failure I witnessed at the game starts at the top. Many holes were not addressed in the off season in fact some were created. McBeane seemed more concerned about removing talent than acquiring it.

I was at the game yesterday and I agree when Allen came into the game his passes had more zip like Flacco's. He showed some pocket presence. He also made noticeably quicker decisions and over all looked more comfortable than Peterman who was playing scared. He was better than Peterman in all phases. Let the rookie play, put a FB back there to protect him.

We had good talent with Whaley but I felt that Rex keep us out of the playoffs for 2 years. Granted we didn't look like SB champs under Whaley but today was total incompetence. I went to the game today and if i see McDermott or Beane in person I will ask for my money back!

This is McBean's team now, no blaming Whaley here and they have burned through draft picks like crackheads without much to show. They have transformed the team from a playoff contender into a very bad team...quickly. Benjamin is not the only problem here and it is hard to single out all of the problems when there are so many. I went the game today and there was nothing positive. Peterman was the worst player on the field without question but no one else seemed very prepared especially Daboll, Frazier and McDermott. If they Ravens had not pulled Flacco when they did they would have put up 60 points.

I don't see the comparison, maybe after a few beers I will. I do remember that it was the Bills old front office that chose Rivers over Brees. Not that Rivers is bad but it was not the smartest decision in hindsight. Sometimes it takes a QB 2/3 years to develop which bodes well for Peterman. However by then Allen will be starting.

Woods and Goodwin left after minimal offers. Dareus I understand them not wanting to keep him but I thought they got very little for him and he timing was of the transaction was bad. Gilleslie was worth keeping but Beane brought in his Carolina cronies. I think a lot of the decisions were questionable.

Maybe we keep Woods and Goodwin and move on from there. I don't think Beane respected the talent that was here when he arrived.

We are now getting a glimpse of Beane's team. Just about all of the Whaley guys are gone. Beane has created a lot of holes foolishly giving away picks. Now he will have to build a team on his own. We have not outplayed anyone's first team yet this preseason. This may be a long season.

He has too. The team was 0-16 last year. He has to generate fan interest.

I didn't like the way they tried to bring down his character to justify getting nothing for him. When he showed up late for game day their ego's became bruised so he had to go. Beane and McDermott handled the situation like rookie managers who wanted to make an example out of someone to keep everyone else in line.. I see it everyday in corporate America. If he was that much of a problem Marrone would not have jumped to get him. Good read sprinkled with BS.

Great to see the drought end. I give McDermott much credit but I am still reluctant to give Beane any credit on this one. I think if McDermott was our coach during the Rex years the drought would have ended earlier. If Rex was coaching last years team the drought would still be on. Now we will see what Beane brings to the table. A mixed review so far in my book. The Dareus deal was bad. He foolishly give away picks in this years draft. With that being said Allen, Edmunds and Phillips are reasons to be excited and there is always a surprise that surfaces late in the draft or as a UFA. McCarron taking 1st string reps maybe a surprise as well. I'm optimistic but the jury is still on Beane in my book.

Always thought Zay was forced to start before he was ready. Most receivers take 2-3 years to hit the mark. I think he got better as the year went on. Moulds became great his third year and to this day along with Andre Reed is my favorite Bills receiver.