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I just showed you that the effect that Clements' absence had on the Bills passing defense was negligible at best
Statistically, the Bills pass defense went from very good to awful without Clements. That despite bad defensive schemes that lead to a series of huge blowouts early in 2006, prior to Fewell's brilliant decision to lock Clements to the opponents best instead of letting offenses scheme away from #22.
But those stats don't tell the story either. McGee and Greer weren't bad, they just aren't impact players. Without Nate, the Bills had to play much less aggressively in the secondary and that lead to TONS of incredibly long drives and a lack of production from Schobel and Kelsay, who no longer had that extra second that Clements provided by taking the #1 receiver out of the equation. Drives that would have ended with sacks, pass break-ups or even fumbles in 2006 just would not end. This in turn hurt the Bills offense, which took the fewest snaps of any offense in the NFL. Clements has always been a very good corner, but when he was given more responsibility he showed his true worth. His 2006 season was awesome, and when he went to SF, he didn't get that same opportunity, but he still played great. He was their team MVP and worth every penny to SF, but as often is the case with FA's, losing Nate hurt the Bills a lot more than it helped the team he went to.
IMO, the Bills made a big mistake letting Clements go. But hopefully, McKelvin becomes a great player as well. You don't have to make the best decision every time to be successful. A good example is the Colts trading Marshall Faulk for a 2nd rounder, then having to use the #2 pick in the draft on Edgerrin James. Faulk became the NFL MVP, and played in the next two Super Bowls and became a HOF'er. The Colts lost that trade, big time. They basically traded Faulk and the #2 overall pick for James and a #2. But they had struck it rich with Peyton Manning already, and James was a real good player too and the Colts have been good for a very long time anyway and eventually won their SB, albeit without James. With any luck, maybe acquiring guys like Trent Edwards and Jason Peters without having to use top picks on them will make up for other mistakes.
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I think thats a good choice, Williams started to really come around last year and that was playing nose which isn't his natural position. Hopefully, with stroud being the one taking on double teams this year, Kyle will shine. He's going to be just as important as anybody if the Bills are going to stop the run for the first time since '04.
Williams was fat and sluggish last year. As a leaner rookie he was a relentless and effective. Very simialar to former Bills Justin Bannan, who has been in the league a long time as a rotational DT that penetrates and pursues in run defense.
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Did you notice this post?
Nate's Pro Bowl level of play apparently amounted to a tiny ripple in a very large pond.
Once and for all, can any Clements fan admit he wasn't and isn't worth what SF paid, and it would have been silly for the Bills to tie up that kind of money in him?
No, the guy once again played great. He put up excellent numbers and was the Niners team MVP in his first season there. The Bills pass defense bit the dust without him last year. No, it wasn't because the run defense was so bad. The genius who drew that conclusion up neglected to mention that the 2006 run defense was also awful.
Then came the offseason where salaries have skyrocketed, making Clements look like a bargain by comparison. Yeah, check the transactions once in a while. Today Andrew Whitworth gets $7.5 M per year extension? And after all was said and done......the Bills had to draft a cornerback in round 1 to replace Clements, then pay that unproven player $4M per year to hopefully learn on the job as a situational substitution. BTW, when Clements was McKelvin's age, he was in his THIRD SEASON as a starting corner in the NFL. Word to your mother, Eball.
Seriously, you guys need to stop being such haters. Your freakin' heads are going to explode when Evans gets $10M per season(about 25% MORE than Nate). Evans is a year younger than Nate and has had just 1 season in the NFL where he had 1000 yards receiving, and hasn't even caught 50 passes in either of the last two years. What the hell is a guy who catches 100 passes per year worth if a guy who catches 48 two years in a row gets $10M per? The answer is, whatever the going rate is. Pay your star players or someone else will, and you'll be back at the troth and wondering why you seem to be getting nowhere fast.
Is it so much to ask that some of you learn to put things in perspective a little? I mean, what next, a rant that the Bills didn't miss Will Wolford because he got too much money from Indy? I mean really, look at the frickin' scoreboard for a change.
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as a Bills fan? For me since I wasn't alive for the super bowl that Norwood missed that field goal, it would have to be last years Monday Night football loss to the Cowboys. Any thoughts?
Super Bowl XXV. It wasn't that it cost them "A" Super Bowl. That team appeared to be destined for much more. They were absolutely STACKED, and on paper there wasn't really a contender in sight in either league. San Fran/Giants/Redskins all seemed to be cycling out. Dallas wasn't even on the radar. The AFC had nothing. They were going to be the successor to the 1970's Steelers and 1980's Niners as the dynasty of the 1990's. Losing meant they would NOT be that team, and losing the way they did made you question if they had the discipline and focus to beat a battle tested NFC team. They did not.
The next worst was HR Throwback. First of all, the ball was thrown forward. The defense at the time was that it was just a technicality, so what if it was a little forward or not............. but the bottom line is teams do not have to defend a forward pass in that situation anymore than teams have to defend players who are out of bounds. So whether they were in their lanes or not shouldn't have been the point. But what really made it hurt was that the Bills had the best defense in the NFL and had just BLASTED the #2 seeded Colts and the #1 seed Jags were an old, paper tiger who had already lost twice to the Titans. That wildcard game had the feel of a divisional or championship game because those two teams were better than the seeds in front of them. Forget Flutie/Johnson...either one could have won the other 2 AFC playoff games, and the Bills HAD that game won with Johnson. The Titans naturally went on the road and easily dispatched of the Colts and Jags and just barely lost to the Rams. The Bills were quite a bit better than those Titans. Steve McNair looked like a HOF'er in the SB against the Rams.....he looked like a POS at home vs. that Bills defense. I think that Bills team could have shut the Rams down. Bitter, bitter loss.
Every loss since means jackschitt. That loss to the Titans was the end of a 12 year run with 10 playoff appearances. It opened up minds to going away from their proven 3-4 defensive identity, which caused far more roster turnover than necessary and ultimately destroyed the momentum and identity they had created in that 12 year period. They've been grasping for firm ground ever since.
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In 5 years, it would be amazing if even 1/4 of those players was still in Buffalo.
The misconception that the window of opportunity is 5-8 years is part of what fuels the acceptance of losing. You just don't have that kind of time to get the program rolling and make a playoff run or two before becoming a Super Bowl contender. In the 8 years since the Bills last made the playoffs, teams like the Titans or even the Jets have been a playoff team, rebuilt, been back to the playoffs and rebuilt again. It really shouldn't take 5 years for a good organization to go from bad to good.
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7-9 and missed playoffs by 2 games. I recall many teams far below the Bills last season.
In terms of record + strength of schedule there were 10 teams who did worse, 21 who did better. And statistically, they had the worst combination of offense and defense in football. Their record was padded by four wins versus two very bad teams in their own division. In terms of performance, they were bad product.
The 7-9 record is somewhat deceiving, because an ultra-conservative style of football allows bad teams to stay in games with average to good teams. The Bills of 2006 and especially 2007 have taken the air out of the ball to keep the score close and hoped for a turnover or mistake by the more aggressive team......that's how the Bills have been able to string a few wins together in the middle of each of the last two seasons. However, against very good teams, that get absolutely TORCHED because those teams don't beat themselves. Look at the Pats, the Bears a couple years ago, the Steelers last year.....mind numbing blowouts where the team didn't even appear to be trying. And down the stretch, teams that they might have beaten in mid-season have been more focused and their proficiency has won out over the Bills lack of offensive or defensive pop. Truth is, the Bills have not been a good football team in Jauron's first two seasons.
I don't believe they were even close to a playoff WORTHY team in the past two years, but they are poised to make real strides this season. I am psyched about Edwards offseason work, he's addressed the concerns I've had about his game. That is far and away the key. And the playmakers on this team should be ready and motivated to reach All-Pro type status, and the rookies appear to be poised to contribute. I'm praying that Schouman turns into another Chris Cooley, because the lack of a quality TE is a major weakness for this offense and will allow defenses to ignore the middle of the field in the passing game. But I am expecting this team to actually be able to take chances, like throwing on first down, and play toe-to-toe football with other decent teams and not be the dregs of the league on offense and defense. Whether Jauron can coach a team to victory that doesn't play "not to lose" is another matter.
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Peters would be a complete idiot to sit out the season & miss out on $3.5-4.5 million
Also he should be gratetful that the Bills took him in & developed him as a OT instead of cutting him where he could be doing something else for a living
He should just get into camp & talk to the team about working out a new deal during the season & if he is still performing at a probowl level then he can get a new deal where he is a the highest paid player on the team
Actually, they did cut him. And I remember the day when he was visiting the NY Giants right after. The Bills were very lucky that the Giants didn't sign him or that he didn't end up on a practice squad elsewhere instead of Buffalo. Losing a would-be all pro LT, when they haven't had a good offensive line in better than ten years, would have been the icing on the sh*tcake that has been the past 8 years.
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You guys need to get off Marshawn. I for one have forgiven him and I now admit if you gotta' hit somebody.....run. Just splay that sh*t and get the hellout pronto. Legally, Novak should've just Roethlisbergered that guy on the bike too. I'm sure he had his helmet on. Remember the four aint's. It ain't a crime if you don't get caught, it ain't dime if it don't get bought, it ain't a show if you don't get paid, she ain't a ho if you don't get laid.
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Disagree to an extent -- everyone is injury prone, and even the more injury prone (and let's assume for a second that Edwards is one of those) are pretty much destined to have a 2-3 full seasons (at least) without injury if they hang around long enough. Whether that's this year for Edwards is anyone's guess, but assuming he doesn't completely flame out, expect a couple (at least) of sixteen game seasons. Heck, Chad Pennington managed it.
Everyone is not injury prone. Everyone can be injured, but to be prone you have to be inclined to being hurt, which would mean having been hurt often. Guys like Favre, Manning, Brady, Fletcher, Clements........those guys don't miss snaps to injury. It's not luck or an accident. Some guys just have a combination of physical and mental skills that keeps them off the shelf. Others, like Rob Johnson, do not. Chad Pennington is injury prone NOW, but to my knowledge, he was not hurt a lot prior to damaging the shoulder. Takeo Spikes never missed a game prior to his achilles. Catastrophic injuries happen. What is of concern with Edwards is the variety of ailments, and at such a young age.
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Not that everyone has the same history, but isn't everyone equally suceptibel to injury in this game?
No, not even close. London Fletcher is involved in about 200 tackles every year and the guy never gets injured. Some bodies are built to take the punishment, some aren't. There are definite reasons to worry about Trent. Soft tissue, joint and head injuries are what separate the durable from the prone. Edwards had a lot of those issues in college.
I think Losman is more athletic and capable of taking punishment, but he takes much more punishment because of his indecisiveness and willingness to run. I too think Edwards will get hurt and Losman will get some starts.
My rationale is not just Trent's history in college, but what also what I saw in that second Jets game. The only team to play Edwards twice was the Jets. In the second game, they took away the short passes he had picked them apart with earlier in the season. They pressured him from all directions. They roughed him up and he was ineffective and injured. That is what he can expect to see this year from EVERYBODY now that there is some tape on him.
Unless an unpolished rookie receiver(Hardy) steps up or a TE of any worth develops from the unproven and unheralded bunch they are bringing to camp, this is the same bunch of mediocre receivers they had last year. IMO, they really screwed the pooch not getting Edwards a good tight end for him to throw to. His best throws are down the middle, and without safeties having to respect centerfield they can cheat toward the sidelines to take away vertical receivers like Evans and Hardy. I don't think most fans realize just how important it is that Schouman or Fine turns into a Chris Cooley clone, or that Edwards shows improved enough arm strength to throw the deep out, take advantage of vacant sidelines and keep defenses honest. People think I'm down on Edwards, but I'm not. The Bills just continue to show a maddening tendency to not put their QB's in position to succeed.
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I also gotta say that Pack management is kinda nuts. He was, without question, one of the five best QBs in the league last year. And you just know that Aaron Rodgers is gonna suck.
Yeah, I don't think Rodgers is going to live up to expectations. But it might be that "Joe Dirt" look he's working.
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Sounds like the guys at ESPN who think that Tom Donahoe was a great GM because he wanted to win now. I remember an owner firing a young head coach (who it turned out was better suited for college) when he said "I want to win now" after he fired Pete Carroll and brought in his "win now" coach, Rich Kotite.
We haven't made the playoffs in years because of that "win now" philosophy. Now when we're actually ready to both win now & in the forseeable future, some of you want to throw it all away for a shot at one or 2 years of Brett Favre at age 39 and maybe 40-an age where a guy can fall off the face of the football map a few games into the season.
I can't change your minds now, so all I can say is watch Edwards & Favre for the next 2 seasons and you'll understand why wanting Favre is a mistake and you'll all be grateful that Favre didn't end up a Bill.
Your claim that "win now" has kept the Bills organization back is false. Not even close. In the 8 seasons since the Bills last made the playoffs, only twice in that span were the Bills in "win now" mode. 2003 when they signed Spikes/Adams/Milloy and 2004 when they hired Mularkey and just missed the playoffs. Winning consistently in the NFL is about coaching and QB's, and the Bills have had bad coaches and bad QB play for near the duration.
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The Packers should demand at least one #1 pick for Fave and trade him. Somebody would pay that.
No chance in hell anyone would trade a #1 pick for a guy that close to 40. None.
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for some reason I don't think Brett would settle for this...
If Favre gets truly serious about a return, the Pack should let him go if he won't start. Get a handshake agreement that he won't go to Chicago or Minnesota and let him play out the string.
He deserves some of the abuse he gets for his indecisiveness. He's also been careless with the football in the last half of his career, possibly not reaching his full potential because of it. But he's been a great part of the game for so long, and despite being a bit self centered, he's been a damn good representative for the NFL. The NBA, MLB or NHL would kill to have that kind of guy as a superstar in their league. IMO, it's not right to block him from playing at this point in his career. And if he wanted to play in Buffalo, I'd love to see it. I like Trent, but he could wait a year or two if the most entertaining player in this generation of the NFL wanted to take some snaps for team snooze-and-lose.
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I would put Donte Whitner in that Category if he was a "best of whats left" choice, but he was the guy that the Bills wanted all along. He was only the wrong choice because he wasn't who the fans wanted and who the Draft "experts" thought they should take.
But your first point is the way I feel about picking up Mike Williams. He was rated as one of the top o-linemen in the draft that year. The Bills took him because they needed a linemen and he was supposed to be one of the best, unfortunatly for them, he was a bust and did not work out well. I can't blame the GM 100% for making that pick because the player was being scouted and predicted to be a great player. The player just didn't live up to the hype
With Youbouty, he was supposed to be a value pick. Someone who could be a top pick in a year or 2, but was coming out early so their stock wasn't as high and was being viewed as more of a "project". Personally, I think that had his mom not died during his first season, he wouldn't be fighting for a roster spot right now. But that death really set him back which was something he probably couldn't afford to have happen since he was already a bit of a risky pick coming out early
On draft day, you are what your record says you are. You can argue that practically every player that goes on day 1 has first round ability. So by your reasoning, drafting them is therefore the right decision at that time. I disagree with that. Results are the bottom line. But don't get worked about the negativity of it all. When the team wins, the organization will get accolades for things they didn't even mean to do. Football teams aren't graded on a curve. To the victor go the spoils, and that's the nature of win-or-lose competition.
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As for the CB position, lets keep in mind that it was the OLD FO of Tom Donasuck that signed all those first round corners then let them leave. Frankly, I'm not sure what everyone's complaining about. Would you REALLY have wanted to sign Clements to the 10 mil a year that he wanted if that meant that we then had to let Peters or Evans go in free agency. He really wasn't worth that kind of money. 6 mil a year maybe, but not ten, and there was no way he was going to give the Bills a discount. McGee and Greer won't be able to command quite that much money, and if they sign Whitner and Simpson to extensions this year and lock them up long term, that will save us a lot of time and headache in the future. Let's see how the FO handles the CBs they were responsible for drafting before we start getting our unders in a wad.
Lastly, to those who say that Jauron has a bad habit of drafting first round CBs or DBs and that's a bad thing, I would point to our almost DEAD LAST pass defense rating in 2005, 2006, and 2007 and suggest that an overhaul was necessary. Two of the three picks in the secondary from that draft have looked very good. We'll see what McKelvin has to offer this year when he gets his shot. But, we needed serious help at DB after the last couple of seasons, and they have done a solid job. Look at the D we run. Having good strong depth at corner and both safety positions is key to good Cover-2 defense. I don't think we will be drafting a corner or safety in the first round for a while, particularly if we can sign Greer to an extension and get McKelvin a six year deal.
Actually, the Bills ranked 7th in pass defense in 2006. Not near DEAD LAST. Greer and McGee aren't bad corners, but Clements epitomized what it means to be a "plus" player for a team. Matched up against the opponents best receiver in 2006, he forced opposing QB's to go to subsequent options which bought time for Schobel and Kelsay and gave the other corners more favorable matchups. When they did throw his way, he made plays.
Haters are still in denial about Clements worth, but the defense went from effective to awful without him and they ended up right back at the troth drafting a corner to replace him a year later. Effectively, the team stepped over a dollar to save a dime, overpaying Kelsay and unnecessarily extending Schobel and now having to dole out a huge contract to a corner that hasn't pisssed a drop yet. I wish McKelvin the best of luck, but he has a tough act to follow in Clements, who created turnovers, played the pass and run equally well and was ridiculously durable.
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One, your first paragraph shows exactly that you know jack sh-- about me.
Two, i'm trying to figure out what kind of !@#$ up world you live in where being optimistic about your favorite team is "unhealthy," while whining on and on about how bad your team sucks and nothing they do is right, and they arent going to be any good is "normal."
And i cant charge you $300 for my advice, because i'm still about 6 months short of having the "Dr." in front of my name.
Actually, it would appear I know you a lot better than I thought. I was making light of your tendency to diagnose those with negative takes as showing a symptom of some personal problem. And your droll proclamation about your impending educational achievement would explain why you feel you are above answering criticism of your boorish behavior.
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Lynch rushes for 1500+ yards, 12 Rush TDs, with another 400 receiving and 3 rec TDs
I don't see Lynch getting the 400 carries he'd need to put up that kind of yardage. He runs after contact, but he STILL gets caught. He might get to the house 15 times though.
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difference of opinion is one thing. But theres something to be said when ones posts/opinions throughout the years become a pattern of negativity towards anything and everything on the supposed home team. I've run into people like that at the stadium as well as on here, and frankly, i wonder, if the team makes that person so miserable, why are they bothering to root for them?
I don't know you from sh*t, but as long as we're making assumptions here, I'll assume you are young and dumb enough that the results of a football team still determine your happiness or lack thereof(and therefore that of others). Wait until you get married, have kids, get truly serious about your career or find something else worthwhile to do with your life and then we'll see if you still even care about the Bills.
The NFL is a business, and the object of the game played is to win. Defending the methods of repeated losing is contrary to the competition aspect that makes the game fun to begin with. It's an unhealthy relationship. IMO, it reflects your need for something to defend unconditionally. Perhaps you have committment issues with your girlfriend. That will be $300, see the receptionist to set up your next appointment.
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"Elizabeth Bradburn, the Dicksons' real estate agent, is organizing an effort to collect donations for the family. She said gift cards to furniture and household goods stores are preferred and may be sent to the Dicksons' business address:"
Why? I would think that JP Morgan/Chase would be 'making a donation' to help them out.
You are assuming guilt. JP Morgan is just saying they are trying to "make things right". I mean, maybe they are just trying to "go forward" or something. We need to wait until the facts come out. Hopefully, JP Morgan stock doesn't take a hit on account of some ridiculous civil judgement that doesn't suit the crime. I mean moving into a foreclosed home....wtf do you expect?
Bobo = fat canadian broad
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Peters will be the best player on the Bills once again.
The prohibitive favorite.
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We're on the brink of an exciting season. We've beefed up the defense. We've added some weapons on the offense. Lets talk about that, instead of worrying about the draft 10 months from now, especially when we have no idea what this team will look like then.
I've got an idea. Let's talk about what we want to. If you don't like it, why don't you start a thread about something you would like to talk about instead of relentlessly bashing other posters. Hate the losing, not the fans.
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Cheers, William, and I look forward to the Oakland game.
HBD to anyone else I missed this week, as well. Still don't have my laptop back, so I was without I-net access while I was in Buffalo ...
Early prediction, that Oakland game will be second best tailgate of the year. Behind the preseason game, of course! Happy Birthday, Bill.
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Doors Greatest Hits- 5th grade.
I remember the second album I ever purchased was Back In Black and the the third was The Soft Parade.
What are yours? Be honest- there should be some funny responses
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Peters may be willing to sit all season
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IMO, Peters is probably holding out with the knowledge that he can force a trade and then instantly become the highest paid LT in the NFL. He can do that by not communicating with the team, then just showing up at some point in the first half of the season and feigning injury or causing some other kinds of problems. A "good" player wouldn't be able to pull it off, they'd end up giving their new team a discount for the potential headache. But everyone knows Peters is the top young LT in the game, and he'll get paid regardless of how he behaves this time. The new team would just say he needs a change of scenery and gladly pay the price.
The Bills would like to negotiate. They want to pay less because of the existing contract. But like I said, all Peters has to do is become a headache and the Bills will deal him and he will get a 10 year deal worth around $150M. Why negotiate? That's such a hefty raise that it would render the few hundred grand he could lose in fines insignificant.