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Who could be worse? I remember my Yankees playing the Phillies in the 2009 World Series and despite the fact they the Yanks are the pinnacle of american sports success and the Phillies had largely sucked in their history they thought they were going to sweep them. Yanks beat the crap out of them and made them look like buffoons(like the Dodgers did to the Yankees this year). I mean, make no mistake, Boston fans are Buffalo's biggest sports rival. But at least Boston fans have some self-doubt when they are overmatched. Philly fans are delusional and when they don't get what they want they are beyond terrible to their teams/players.

Yeah it was telling last offseason when Bills fans were shocked that they released a bunch of CLEARLY washed up veterans. The Bills have largely avoided the kind of mass free agent losses that other long time contenders have. That surgery is the kind of thing that has to be done for the good of the franchise. Teams like the Chiefs and Ravens have been in their competitive window considerably longer and have sacrificed a lot of good players to the market in free agency or trade. That's the way it has to be.

I envision Bruce, Kelly, Thurman, Andre and Tasker popping champagne like the 72' Dolphins next January.

Kincaid might net you a 5th in this draft. If he repeats this past season he wouldn't be worth a pick at all next year. Better off hoping he gets his sh!t together and toughens himself up. Pretty deep class of TE's in this draft. Hopefully the Bills find one on day 3 to succeed Knox in 2026. As it turned out, Dawson Knox was exaggerating for effect in his defense of Kincaid. Like I speculated, Kincaid clearly didn't have a fully torn PCL. Just a sprain. Bills confirmed that. No surgery required. He's probably on the slopes today back home.

Play them in the SB next year. That will cure you of that quick. Philadelphia fans are easily the worst and most arrogant(justified or not) fans in pro sports. Yes, even worse than New England sports fans.

Yeah Spotrac is projecting Cook at 4 years $40M. That's not bad value if he continues his upward trajectory(and can start playing 3rd downs) but I think these kind of contracts are the reason Beane doesn't ever have much cap room to work with. The White, Milano, Knox deals that have backfired. They have a bunch of similarly "good" players who are all coming due for extensions this offseason or they will hit free agency after 2025 so the obvious trade candidates are: Benford Bernard Cook Rousseau Shakir Bernard wouldn't have much value so I think you ride it out with him but I'm not inclined to extend ANY of them so with that being the case, the right trade situations make sense.

Yeah it's an important point about the Hunt family being a little thrifty. It's not like what Belichick gradually did to his roster because I am sure Kraft would have paid for talent but Belichick just made a lot of bad choices. Veach makes good choices but I think once they started collecting Lombardi trophies they lost a little of their taste for spending. And it's more difficult there because the wealth is split among family members. Individually, Clark Hunt would be the poorest owner in the league. He has to have his family aligned on spending and that situation can be difficult.

Yeah Jalen Carter was a #1 overall worthy player. That was a disaster for other NFC contenders when he fell to the Eagles. Put Oliver and Rousseau on either side of Carter and they will look like they found another gear(or 2). Put Nolan Smith on the other side of Daquan Jones and I think there are complaints about Nolan Smith. Carter is a game changer on the DL. He doesn't come off the field and he gets pressures like a high end edge rusher from the inside.

I don't really get your point though. Both teams have thrown a lot of assets at the DL. The big difference is that the Eagles got incredibly lucky that Jalen Carter was there at pick 13. That makes everything else work. The next biggest difference is probably that they invested more in day 3 DL than the Bills have. The Bills don't have a Milton Williams or Sweat. But Greg Rousseau is better than the Eagles DE's. Every NFL personnel person would agree. Oliver at #8 overall is a better player and pick than Jordan Davis at #9 overall. In fact, if Davis were in the middle without Carter that might be a point of criticism for Howie. Roseman has also done better with FA DL with guys like Hargrave and Reddick(though Bryce Huff looks like a big fail and that is the main reason why their pass rush was underwhelming this season). So Howie has been better at his choices on the DL but they've also used first round picks up on 3 WR(Reagor, Smith, Brown) since 2020 and took a CB last year etc.. It's not like all they do is use premium assets on the DL and the Bills just haven't tried hard enough or are wasting picks on different positions. Their strategies are not that dissimilar.

Nobody has a better overall roster than the Eagles. Doesn't mean the Bills aren't better in a number of starting positions. Howie Roseman is just the best personnel man in the NFL. But the gap in rosters isn't vast. The thing is, the Eagles are not only better but also have more chips to work with to improve theirs. The Bills are a couple years further into their QB window so they have more cap issues. Josh is over $40M cap hit this year and Hurts is around $20M, for example. And Hurts is easily their biggest cap number. They are sitting pretty and primed to add/retain pro talent with their cap situation for another year or two. And I expect them to replace guys like Sweat and Baun with cheaper players or better players(Myles Garrett?). Because that's how Howie seems to be able to do it. So Beane would have to really have a great offseason if the goal were to match rosters with the Eagles.

That OR the best OL in the league........and 2 top 15 WR in the NFL........for their fairly robotic very good but non-elite QB to throw to from a pocket with no pressure. Eagles roster is better than the Bills in a lot of areas and the pass rush isn't one of the more significant differences. WR is actually the biggest spread. 2 out of 3 are way better than the Bills options. DL, the Bills could make a couple adds and be as good or better. OL, probably just need to upgrade on Cybo to level up with them.

Well he was the game plan advisor against the Chiefs for those Eagles in 2022 but wasn't the DC........so does that SB loss to Mahomes count? I think Vic is like 0-5 versus Josh Allen too. Point is.........he's not some great schematic genius DC.........not beating yours with his and his with yours.........and YES I will count his record with other teams.

Yeah the Eagles are STOUT in the middle of their DL. That is the biggest difference. Not the pass rush. The Bills vulnerability in the middle often takes the starch out of their pass rush because inviting the run leads to the ends having to be more assignment sound. And stout in the DL allows the LB's to make plays. That's why Baun could become an NFL DPOY candidate. Eagles also improved their secondary by going with 2 DB's early in the draft last year. But it just so happened in this game that the pass rush showed up for them and now fans who don't really follow the rest of the NFL that closely think they had a fearsome foursome of pass rushers on every down. Not the case.

Being rested, healthy and on a neutral field played an important role as well. The Chiefs had some advantages over the Bills in that AFCCG, which could be attributed to the bye and #1 seed. They didn't have those against the Eagles. Good for Fangio though he was like 0-9 all-time versus Mahomes prior to that. Blind squirrel finally found a nut.

I wonder if Jahmile Addae is out. I was so glad he left the U because the Hurricanes CB's were a mess with him there(and he didn't recruit well, which matters in college).........so I wouldn't be surprised if he is blamed for not getting better results from the CB room in Buffalo too. He was supposed to fix Elam with his different than John Butler technique training. Didn't happen.

I got click baited into a story about an assistant trainer changing teams. Shame on me.

Yeah the Chiefs had a great game plan for the Bills and the home field advantage to execute it. They weren't as fortunate.....or prepared......last night. Level playing field, both teams healthy and rested.

Yeah the Eagles want a better DL too. They had just 41 sacks and 30 hurries on the season. Versus the Bills much maligned DL which had 39 sacks and 62 hurries. Josh Sweat and Milton Williams.....both pending free agents coming off statistically underwhelming seasons.........each just had their best games of the season in their last game and that's all that most non-Eagles fans saw of them this year. Remember they had a historically great pass rush coming into their last SB versus the Chiefs and got nada. Good OL beat good DL on neutral field. A lot of it comes down to playing well in the last game. Just saying. Eagles weren't loving their pass rush this season either.

They think they are a dynasty already. Vic Fangio 0-9 all time against Mahomes? No problem in their minds.

It's not about changing allegiance on a dime it's about new fans. That's basically kids/young adults age 5-20 mostly. Those Giants SB wins had a tangible impact on the amount of non-Bills fans that exist in the Binghamton to Bath or Syracuse to Rochester ranges. The Eagles have an impact into CNY.......where they are currently local team #3. Way ahead of the Jets.......because the Jets haven't won or been in a SB in half a century. These areas are closer to Buffalo than to Philly or Meadowlands, they are in NYS and should be almost entirely Bills fandom. As far as Chiefs fans being annoying? Where? Not in western/upstate NY regions. They barely exist. And they will never have the reach that teams like Pittsburgh or Dallas have. NY and northern PA is our footprint in the US. I understand that some people think the world is the internet but the reality is that the people who keep the stadium full and impact the local economies by spending on the Bills are those in the region. The less success teams like NYG and Philly have the better it is for us. The success the Chiefs have is not tangibly relevant to the long term health of the Bills franchise. A SB loss won't devastate them.......they are still going to be back in contention for it for the foreseeable future. A terrible game by Jalen Hurts? Maybe Howie decides to shake things up.

Yeah it's weird how some Bills fans are rooting for those assh0les out of pointless spite. It's like "yeah let the most annoying fan base in football become another obstacle to the Bills winning a SB". Very shortsighted. I want Jalen Hurts to be 0-2 in SB's. I know how that story plays out in round 3. Teams get over long time obstacles in-conference......less so after losing SB's. Those tend to become self-fulfilling.

Yeah McBeane are the first one's to talk about how you end your season influences decisions in the offseason. And the Chiefs clearly play better special teams and their defensive staff was a step ahead in preparation for the Bills offense in the AFCCG. That was obvious. So makes sense........try to get special teams coaching that actually makes a tangibly positive difference AND maybe they use Ryan Nielsen in conjunction with their advanced scouting to prepare game plans further ahead so they are working more on nuance/detail the week of the game and maybe can win some more downs with scheme.

Agreed but at what looks like just a $1.2M cap hit though, some teams will want one of those. FAR more tradeable contract than Kupp. If the Rams manage to get someone to take on Kupp's cap hit then just get Les Snead a gold jacket already.

Yeah there are usually a handful of prospects who just get overlooked and get under drafted and then in hindsight it seems like even the reason for skepticism in the first place was ill conceived when you see teams reach for players at other positions in the same draft. They end up being draft steals. The guys like George Kittle. Or more recently and painfully for Bills pass rush fans, Maxx Crosby and Trey Hendrickson. Jackson could be one. At his best he's looked like a guy who could be drafted early in round 1 but then him never truly breaking out has created some prospect fatigue. Then you got guys like Shaq and Epenesa who just seem entrenched as a first round pick in every mock for a year and it's like "welp, somebody's gotta' take them I guess we're screwed if he's on the board". I was surprised AJ actually made it to round 2 because of that......even though he didn't look like much of a pass rusher.

Not a fair comparison though because the Bills hired Jauron after he had already proven his limitations as the HC of the Bears for 5 full seasons. McBeane would have been just another first time, 1 and done if Allen had busted. The Jauron era in Buffalo started with exasperation at the terrible hire. Also, you had a chance to reach a SB with middling QB play back then. The Bears made it with Rex Grossman not too long after canning Jauron. Jake Delhomme lead a team to a SB appearance in that time. That's just not the case since 2020(a couple years after Mahomes/Allen/Jackson arrived then more studs followed). Too many teams have really good one's to be able to negotiate thru the playoffs without getting taken out by them. Both QB's in these SB's every year now are guys who have proven they can put up MVP numbers. It's just unfathomable that Jauron got 9 chances(seasons) as an NFL HC. That shouldn't have been his legacy. It should have been his career as a player. Being remembered as a disaster of a HC for 2 franchise's is on the owners and GM's that let him stay far too long at those jobs.