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Star + next 3 years + with Bills = nofa king chance This was all about getting the one last season guaranteed.

Yes on the first part.......this basically protects him from getting gaffed on cut down day. That's what happened to LeSean McCoy........and he ended up taking a $2M pay cut signing with KC. The possibility that Harrison Phillips comes back strong and another 4th-6th round DT1T comes in and out-hustles Star and makes the Bills feel comfortable cutting him was every bit as good as the chances McCoy would be cut. I suspect a steadily declining, aging and recently mediocre run stuffer like Lotulelei would be looking at between a vet minimum and $2M contract on the open market at the end of August...........and that someone would have to be really short bodies. He might even have to wait until week 2 to sign when his contract would basically be week to week(in which case I suspect he'd have retired I don't think he wants it that bad based on his lack of effort). As for him being with the team in 2021...........I doubt it.........I won't be surprised if he's an healthy scratch by the end of the 2020 season. 2021 was always when he was going to be easier to cut.

Not even.........the Bills traded more picks to move up and select both Edmunds and Dawkins.

I suspect they will hold onto Murphy even if they have multiple DE acquisitions. Not much to gain from cutting him........he's at worst injury insurance and trade bait in August.

Well the reality for Hill is he'll be 30 years old before this season starts..........if someone offers him $20M for two years he should probably take it regardless.............I just don't know why anyone would. Yeah I have kinda' taken the position that the Bills will draft a CB and pick up Norman after he gets cut...........he's had success in the system and should be had for peanuts so little risk.

Yeah I thought it was one of the more interesting features of it's type I've read in a long time. I felt like the Bills got a little slighted in the big name movement.......but Freeman and Addison make a lot of sense. Taysom Hill signing an offer sheet with Buffalo is crazy though.............a second round pick will be a high price for anyone to pay let alone $10M per year.

Think of it like this...........you form a partnership.........everyone initially kicks in about the same..........but as the company grows you and some others kick in more $ and work harder to help it continue to grow and create more shared revenue...........but one dipsh*t just does nothing and still gets the same proportion of those increasing earnings. That would piss off anyone. That's what the issue is for The Pegs............keeping the other 97% of the partnership happy with them. Ralph at least had the argument that he was a founder and had done something to get the league where they are at.........The Pegs bought into this and knew what the expectations were.

That hiring was exasperating. I'm generally bemused by the Bills being Billsy but I was so angry that I kicked a wastebasket that I'm pretty sure would have been good from 50. What people forget is that so many fans loved all the close games that Jauron Ball created and the fanbase really bought into Jauron for 3 years because of it......................the same way they loved Jauron Ball 2.0 in 2017 with McDermott. The spirit of the game isn't to not make any sudden moves and just hope that your opponent makes enough errors that you can squeak out a win..........that kind of football just bastardizes the sport.

As I've said numerous times in this thread......TO lead the NFL in drops the year before he joined the Bills...........but you could always say that you disagree with what the NFL rules as "drops" so I guess you'll just have to remain a skeptic I guess.

Yep. Actual worst move ever was putting Disney style parking in Lot 1.............it was Hammer's Lot x 20 and really helped keep people coming to games when we were being treated to classics like Browns 6 Bills 3.

You know you aren't allowed to mention moves by present management. For chrissake they are 25-25 with a -123 point differential over three seasons............ingrates!

AB apologizes...........the snickers hole is fixing everything. The fact that Richie Incognito keeps getting chances............and I mean since all the way back in college even............I just gotta' think AB will be playing in the NFL again whether everyone likes it or not.

Meh I'd avoid drafting guards in round 2 like the plague..........there's a reason why you can usually get really good ones in UFA...........the impact difference between a Feliciano and a $12M guard is not that big. But you're also just assuming he beats out the competition at guard. I can see a scenario where he's a reserve. Pretty easily really..........they re-sign Spain or another guard thinking Ford will be the RT........and then Nsekhe or other just clearly play better in OTA's/camp. Something is not right with Ford........like he has a maturity/impulse control issue or something..........so I'm not even feeling as good about the pick now as I did last year.........and I thought he was a guard when they drafted him and was not impressed with the choice and process to acquire him then.

I've given McBeane a lot of credit for pivoting on some very bad decisions. That's why I say "probably". Your perspective might be a little cloudy on those 3 instances you listed. They traded(not cut) McCarron to keep the author of the worst QB'd half of football in modern NFL history in Nate Peterman. Coincidentally starting Peterman the year before had turned into a publicly embarrassing situation...........earning them league-wide scorn. That was a clear and totally unnecessary and ill-advised "double down" on a player. FORCED. And cutting Benjamin late in the season when he should have been cut two months earlier for his complete lack of effort was not an instance of pro-activism to take pride in...........that had the feel of loading the moving trucks in the middle of the night. So while they have pivoted quickly on some bad decisions..........some other more personally invested ones maybe not so well. I'd put Cody Ford's situation in the personally embarrassing group because of his costly mistakes in the WC game(while Metcalf was setting a rookie receiving record for yardage by a WR that same weekend). Ford isn't just any pick their lust for him was documented.

You can get to and win a SB and have a dynamic offense without a good RT. It's not an island position........you can often give strong side help in the form of a TE. I do think they want Ford to play RT and will probably force the issue...........Beane put all his cards on the table on day 2 of the draft with that "Bills Embedded" show where he was totally fixated on Ford as an OT.................so he'd look dumb passing on Metcalf and then moving Ford to guard.

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He was a really talented QB but he had a rep for playing scared and it was felt that limited his ability to lead/succeed. It was obviously a lot more violent game for QB's back then. Guys like Everett and injury prone passers like Chris Chandler and Chris Miller probably would have been studs in the 2010-2019 period where QB's don't get hit much in the pocket. A guy like Aaron Rodgers would have never survived that era IMO...........he might have ended up like Chandler or Miller. Rodgers holds onto the ball and was on his way to getting concussed out of the league before Goodell made those drastic changes to QB and WR contact.

They've missed the playoffs 8 straight years in the NHL.............that's putting it kindly they have easily been the worst team in the sport over that period...........and in year 9 of their rebuild they find themselves 25th and falling while having the 3rd worst cap situation...........yeah it's a very defensible situation to call them the biggest mess in NA pro sports.

Yeah my bad he certainly didn't have injuries to the degree of Shenault......... it was more about Harvin being a difficult player to coach(choked one of his coaches.......and as good as Meyer was at covering ***** up the fact that came out.......it probably wasn't the half of it). And yes he was productive but as an "athlete"..........he wasn't a 1,000 yard rusher or receiver..........jack of 2 trades.........that didn't translate to a stellar career as either a WR or RB.

Here's the Percy Harvin story: Explosive but oft-injured RB at Florida........obviously not built for the punishment. Moved to WR as a pro to preserve him..........but wasn't really a route-diverse WR........which tamped down his playmaking potential. So they said f*ck it let's hand him the ball more like they did at Florida. He had a big year but took a beating and never played healthy again. His career ypc is 11.4 because he wasn't very good as a downfield receiver..............which is one of the questions that comes up with Shenault who rarely saw a pass thrown over 10 yards to him. The rationale for taking Roscoe Parrish was that he was super quick and also very fast and would make big plays.............and he did make some memorable big plays and contributed at an elite level on special teams...........but they passed on the bigger slower Vincent Jackson to take the electric Parrish and Jackson averaged almost 17 ypc over his long career and Lil' Scoe netted 11.2 ypc in his brief one. A great combo of speed and quickness is nice but being able to run without the ball and get in position to get big yards by catching the ball downfield is actually what I am looking for in a 1st round WR.

I've seen that but how does that help teams without great QB's compete against those that have great QB's? The system is fine the way it is. If a Mahomes makes $50M then his team has less chips to improve other areas of their team which gives teams with lesser and less expensive QB'd teams a tool to help compete with them.

If a few good seasons of playmaking...........including one amazingly productive one............was the standard for an excellent first round pick then we'd see CJ Spiller in a different light. Harvin was a gimmick player with a concerning injury history coming out of Florida and he had a brief NFL career with one great season and a few nice one's. As you know one of my standards for using a first round pick is that it's a player you'll be glad to extend a second contract at market value. If you get to the end of that first deal and the guy has pretty much done what you hoped and you are still like........."meh, we're fine without that"..........then you picked the wrong guy.

Yeah Harvin is a great comp......also picked #22. I don't think Shenault is nearly that explosive though and fwiw I don't think Harvin was even necessarily a "good" first round pick. He had one really exceptional season in Minnesota and made some big plays in a SB for Seattle but he was never a WR1. But the thing with the Bills is that they've done a lot of thinking out loud on draft day over the years so I'm never surprised to find out that they don't have a system in place to prevent impulsive decisions. The whole "we need a tackle" thing from last years second round "Bills embedded" concerns me. Gotta' know better.

McKenzie and his backup on the practice squad Ray-Ray are gimmick players.............using a first round pick to replace that position is probably a worse idea than using it on a RB. WR1 types only in rounds 1 and 2. Maybe Shenault blows up in the workouts and I feel more comfortable projecting him to the X position but I don't see it to this point. Gotta' get the slots and gimmicks/KR's later in the draft.

I've followed his story over the past year and a half..........he's an inspirational story...........I just haven't seen the tape to back up the hype and he's not a freak like DK Metcalf where the potential upside is that he ends up in a class by himself as a certain type of WR. His workout info will matter a lot IMO. He's a thick, heavy legged player.......basically a RB build......... and we've seen those type of players lose speed and quickness pretty early in their careers so if he puts up average numbers......which I anticipate......that's a red-flag to me.