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3 years and $30M with Arizona. I am not excusing Beane's personnel work but you are thinking about the 1 year deal he signed when with Buffalo.

I have always hated playing not to lose. In 2017 when it yielded upset wins in Atlanta and KC this board was flooded by people calling this same brand of football "exciting".............to me it was unwatchable. It's discouraging that they still had to resort to that gameplan in year 4.

The only explanation I have is that he just wants to play for Seattle.............a lot of players gravitate to Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll thinking that the Seattle is always going to be in position to have a shot at the SB. And he might just be on the PS getting into shape. He quit in Detroit because he was frustrated with the losing. He left a lot of money on the table.

I don't know what happened behind the scenes........but a massive, violent double team inducing DT who still somehow recently managed to shed the double and tackle the RB 4-6 times per game.........it's just hard to understand how he is just sitting there on a practice squad.

It was totally gutless. But I think McD identified that his team is gutless emotionally right now and was just trying to keep the score down to prevent the situation from getting worse. Because we've seen stretches where McDermott teams fall into deep emotional chasms and it takes weeks to get out of it. Maybe because his team can't relate to his "every day is the same" kinda' mentality. "Do your job" works when you know the assignments are going to produce results if done correctly. When the assignments aren't well designed people start going off script. I suspect they will figure their way out of it like they did in 2017 after they played the worst 3 game defensive stretch in team history.........a softer schedule helps a lot.........they have probably played 3 of the 5 best teams they have on the schedule and are 4-2.

The tape is going to say.........."well it wasn't really his fault that they couldn't stop the run"............and then in pass coverage it will be "well you can't expect him to stay with that TE or that WR" like on those 2 back-breakers on KC's last scoring drive. Sometimes you need to make plays. The Bills defensive identity is "not hard nosed and not making plays"...........sounds like Tremaine is taking a leadership role at least.

Zay Jones is not coming back to the Bills obviously.............if John Brown can't get healthy........which seems like a good possibility........ then I could see the Bills in the market for a replacement. Kenny Stills might be the guy.

I was intrigued when he was a restricted free agent and later on the trade block. He could really juice up the interior pass rush if he still has it. He was no slouch at DE either.

It would be one thing if he just got suspended. He literally QUIT football because he wasn't allowed to openly use MJ. Always loved the talent and maybe there is a lot more to the story but it might be harder to sell the "we value players who love the game of football" to the locker room after bringing in a guy who made football such a low priority.

Yeah he is just in a state the past two seasons where it's hard to envision him ever being able to play fast there. There isn't a light switch for instincts. Whereas you could see real flashes of instinctive play immediately with Josh Allen at QB...........that's never been the case with Edmunds. When a MLB is talented and instinctive you frequently have those moments in games where it looks like he and the guy with the ball are the only ones out there. Even on Edmunds best plays it's not that way........he is often one of the least visible players out there. It's frustrating to watch talent like that get wasted. Not the first time a Bills regime has played a gifted player out of position and squandered talent but it's one of the more egregious examples, IMO. Beyond the Bills organization themselves........if I were Edmunds agent or family member I'd be beside myself watching him struggle playing a cheaper position and getting beat up in the middle.............Edmunds' father played one of the more demanding positions and was a star but injuries sustained at TE quickly derailed his career. I'd want him outside where he has a chance to play a long time and earn a lot more money.

As @NoSaint said.........you you gotta' have some kind of baseline to make comparisons. Those players you mentioned were all OLB's. Taylor and Harrison weren't even playing in 4-3 defenses. You might as well have used a safety or DE as a developmental comp. Here is an example of a reasonable comparison..............the predecessor to Edmunds at the MLB position in McDermott's defense was far less talented but a more efficient tackler. See how that works? What's especially concerning with Edmunds isn't his SLOW development.............it's the lack of development...........he isn't improving. Not from year 1 to year 2. Certainly not from year 2 to year 3. He went from a rookie who made mistakes but also made plays...........to a second year guy who was still taking too many false steps but made less plays.......to now a third year player who has made zero plays thru 4 games. No turnovers, no QB hits..........he's just running in circles out there and the season didn't begin with him injured. Thru a third of this season he has just been lost out there.

Unfortunately you still read my stuff and then try to hurt my feelings. So I have to make fun of you for being fired at OBD for interrupting that contract negotiation meeting between the Bills and the Jim Kelly camp to tell them they had a phone call.

You are wrong about that........teams don't just lead with their own weakness just because an opponent has shown a weakness in that area. This isn't like the Roman Bills who averaged 5.8 net yards per pass attempt versus 5.3 yards per rush. This Bills team entered the game with an 8.4 net yards per pass attempt against just 3.8 yards per rush. That is an enormous disparity. Lead with your strength. In many regards the 1990's Bills weren't among the better coached teams in the NFL.........but one thing they were good at was imposing their will with what they were good at. Running counter against teams even when they were selling out to stop it. Or running screen passes non-stop all day against the Dolphins in the 1992 AFC Championship game. Daboll outsmarted himself. Hopefully this nipped in the bud any notion he might have that he is so smart that he can significantly change the offensive focus from week to week. The Bills personnel isn't assembled like the Patriots have been.........they can't bounce from scatbacks to power backs or run 2 TE effectively. They are an 11 personnel team with some 5 wide versatility and they should just focus on getting better at what they can already do effectively and let Josh Allen take care of the rest. If you are willing to sacrifice drives trying to force the run just to get better at it then do it against teams the Jets and Broncos not teams you know will be tightly contested games.

Lack of depth prevents that. Milano is on injury #2 already and Klein has been a huge disappointment as a free agent addition........he's been terrible. If they had been honest about Edmunds performance at MLB and been open to giving him a little healthy competition they might now have the freedom to let him get his shoulder fixed or rested.....but they weren't.......they used the reserve MLB spot for Matakevich who can only play ST's. I do think that Edmunds could play better late in the season or the playoffs..........his half-hearted effort in tackling is in part due to trying to nurse the injury thru the early season IMO.....and that's been the difference between being "meh" his first two seasons and just bad this year. He also does have a history of flashing for a couple games per season..........raising his effort/intensity in a high profile game. This Monday nighter will probably be their highest profile game nationally this regular season. He should also be especially motivated by the criticism finally coming home to roost due to his poor play. I am hoping he is jacked for Monday and makes a few big plays if nothing else.

Yeah the 5th year option is going to be approximately $11M. I think there is zero chance that Beane doesn't pick that up because of the optics alone..........but he hasn't been worth that kind of dough. The shoulder injury is a particularly bad turn of events because even if they had a guy emerge as a better, more instinctive MLB.........which could always happen at that position..........Edmunds would still be tough to evaluate as a pass rusher with a bad shoulder. And while I have my fingers crossed that Johnson emerges as a potential elite pass rusher in the next 12 months.........the chances are that they will go into the offseason compelled to spend big $ on a pass rusher when IMO Edmunds should have been that guy by now.

Early in the preseason of 2018 he made a front pylon throw that probably had <1% chance of completion..........realistically only Aaron Rodgers was the only starting QB in the NFL who I'd ever seen who could have made that throw. At that point I felt like this guy doesn't even need to come that close to his ceiling to be good. He's put the work in to be so much better but there were flashes of the extraordinary from the outset.

He's a 3rd year veteran........6th season as a college/pro LB. This has to be the first time in NFL history that a 3rd year QB has matured into a top dollar asset and the 3rd year MLB drafted the same year is still not considered seasoned enough to evaluate based on his production/performance. The time for excuses is over with Edmunds. And frankly with the defensive coaching staff for using him in the middle.

If you've been going to Bills games and tailgating religiously during the playoff drought you would have likely noticed that the fanbase had more and more become it's own entity. I think every group developed their own "the Bills organization doesn't show up every week but we do" mentality to deal with the ineptitude and seeming lack of commitment to winning. The whole Schefter "Bills Mafia" thing..........though lame on the surface.........was a very good moniker for an angry and defensive fanbase to create their own identity around the league while showing support for their franchise. I don't think it's really right for fans to cash in using the Bills name and likeness..........but the Bills organization had it coming and I think the fact that they let the copyright infringements go for this long reflects an understanding of that. Now that the organization is both committed to winning and has some competent people in charge I think it's great for the two entities to be as one and for the benefit of the football organization. This is probably as good as this procedure could have ended. I don't throw around an abundance of props to the Pegula's but they've been really good stewards on this issue.

That was actually the original premise that I presented. I don't think there was any surprise from Daboll about how the Titans defensed the Bills..........I think Daboll knew what they were likely to do but apparently had some notion that in that case he would maybe just try to out-Titans the Titans. But the fact that Adoree Jackson and their best DL were out should have just made it even more inviting to do what they do best........throw the ball.......more specifically on early downs with play action.........even if they rarely intended to run the ball. That should have been enough...........but people gotta' pick nits. Unfortunately for their arguments it just so happens that statistics support the fact that poor early starts tend to lead to losses considerably more often than not. The NFL isn't actually basketball on turf where you just have to tune in for the last 3 minutes of the game. Every series counts in big games..........hopefully now that the Bills are playing in some of those types of game that fact becomes less a point of contention and more of a point we all can agree on.

I am a path of least resistance kinda' person myself. So while I agree that they should be better running the ball..........they aren't.........and they weren't in the prior 4 games.........so expecting them to be was a fundamentally bad decision. Regardless of the opponent. Josh Allen literally came into that game averaging 9.0 yards per pass attempt. The Bills are averaging 3.8 yards per rush attempt. You can't pass the ball every single down but the math is OVERWHELMINGLY simple..........in a game you expect to be tightly contested it never makes sense to lead with your weakness. Trust me...........I can go on because their early approach to this game was ***** on many levels and practically every statistical outcome for the game backs that up.

Who said leading the NFL in tackles means nothing? That player achieved that for a reason. In Brown's case it was because the system funneled the work to him and he completed the tackles. But as we know he was not an exceptional MLB, he was a journeyman type. Edmunds was expected to be extraordinary in that role. He's not. Also btw, you are not yet up to internet dude level but keep tryin'.👌 (Seriously people........read the OP's before you respond blindly)

1) Lorax is an internet dude now. He also gets paid to make guest appearances on radio and has a close, mentor-teacher relationship with the player he is being asked to critique. If you are expecting his unobjective opinion then you are naive. Now if Edmunds was some dude on some other team I am sure Lorax would tell you about the importance of instincts for a linebacker. But since Edmunds lacks them.........its not a point of discussion. 2) I contest the notion that Edmunds absolutely has produced. Preston fricken' Brown lead the NFL in tackles in this defense in 2017. It's designed to create plays for the MLB to make. That's why they invested so much in acquiring Edmunds relative to where the league typically values that position. Edmunds has greatly underachieved statistically as a result of his lack of instincts for the position.

I think I've made my opinion very clear........they came out too focused on running the ball. Which is their offensive weakness. On the first series they ran ineffectively twice and then on a then obvious 3rd and 4 passing down Allen was called on to throw his first pass and promptly made a slightly off throw to the 4th receiver option that resulted in a pic which set up a layup touchdown for Tennessee. On the third series they ran twice and then got a penalty that effectively snuffed the drive. I am one who wants to see Josh Allen be given some easy throws and/or a designed run to get him in a rhythm physically. That wasn't done.......7-0 Titans. This isn't hindsight.........I watch every game as if I were calling the plays and there are things I want to see done early against specific opponents that I think matter. Daboll didn't think he needed to get Josh going.........he felt it was important to establish the run...........I disagreed on both counts. And starts of games obviously matter more against some opponents and in some situations than others. They started the game facing the potential of TN getting back-to-back posessions to end and start the halves and then promptly handed away two more possessions in the first 3 series. Jumping out to a lead quickly allowed TN to be patient and execute THEIR gameplan........they had ultimately won the turnover battle just 3 plays into the game and were up 7-0 just a few plays later. I guess since people assume that football is now a serve and volley sport that scoring first doesn't matter, but there is a reason that Bill Walsh started the trend of scripting offensive series. Traditionally teams that score first win about 2/3 of their games. In closer matchups that number could be higher. Last year in the playoffs 7 of the first 8 games were won by the team that scored first(the Bills being the exception!). Ultimately it's my position that Daboll did not have a good gameplan nor did he have his finger on the pulse of this game early on. If you think it was a good gameplan by BD that was for no good reason poorly executed then I strongly disagree.

And Bell was a top back in 2017 only in terms of workload. His ypa in 2017 was 4.0.........nearly a full yard drop from his previous few seasons and below league average. 2016 was the last year where he was an elite RB....dominant in terms of workload and yards per attempt.........that's now 5 seasons ago.

He's been pretty sheltered from criticism for two years. But eventually when you don't produce fans will start to wonder why. What bothers me more than his lack of production at MLB is that they have wasted his potential on the outside. This guy should be coming off the edge and using his length to create turnovers.