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What those other coaches have in common is they've done something of note in the playoffs...........4 of them have won SB's..........Shanahan advanced to one last season and Vrabel won playoff games against the defending champ and #1 seed in last year's playoffs. Until McD actually does these things his legitimacy as one of the best will be suspect............people can be mad about it but that's how it goes............if you don't make a bunch of noise when it matters the league and it's observers don't hear you.

They are well positioned..........their style of defense should benefit from the time together and the late bye was great...........if they can stay healthy and mostly covid-free and keep winning until Brown and Milano can come back to full strength they will have a punchers chance against the field. And in a year where anyone could find themselves off-balance in the playoffs........that punchers chance is greater than normal.

Yeah I was going to say I didn't think PFF had love for Beane's draft work. And honestly, other than White and Allen..........what exactly have they hit out of the park? The Bills sorta epitomize Belichick's "you gotta' be making bad decisions all the time to be bad in the NFL". Get a QB and don't sh*t yourself wrt personnel and coaching and you should be in contention for the playoffs more often than not. They got that talented QB.........otherwise they are a thoroughly mixed bag of modest successes and modest failures in terms of personnel. The schedule was very kind in 2017 and 2019 to allow them to fake it til they made it........and now they are legitimately competitive with all but maybe KC. But in a matchup league....where playmakers are so important........the Bills personnel department has really not stood out. I wouldn't be too excited about a Schoen/Daboll team if I were a fan of one of those full turnover situations.

PLEASE take whoever it was that gave Beane a visible hard-on for Cody Ford in the Bills embedded feature. If a smart owner is hiring a GM.......it is a guy who isn't going to drop his guard after round 1 and starting looking to patch holes. But the teams that will be looking for new personnel department include some real doozy owners.

Klein is the 32nd highest paid off-ball LB in the NFL.........for perspective, every team employs AT LEAST 2 starting off-ball LB's. If you include all the 3-4 teams with big money edge rushing LB's........Von Miller, Khalil Mack etc............Klein is STILL the 45th highest paid LB in football. So by any definition he is receiving excellent starting pay for his position.

Look........I never mentioned "the 22 number" and I never said only 5 of the signings were significant. Star Lotulelei was signed for 5 years and $50M also..........and Kelvin Benjamin cost the Bills $8.5M in 2018 and he was utterly useless and dumped after 12 games. Part of the context is that McBeane couldn't just pick any Carolina player off the Panthers roster or the rosters of Washington(Norman), New Orleans(Klein) or Dallas(Worley)..........the reason why the amount of ex McB Panthers has increased is because they had to wait for them to become expendable..........they have been on that Carolina waste product like white on rice.........it's only now that they can access a lot of them. And it HASN'T been cheap. That said............my point isn't to trash the signings..........I get it, they want players they are familiar with and you don't need playmakers at every position........but honestly the juice hasn't been worth the squeeze so nobody should be alarmed at the criticism.

They are going to have to get the ball deep to Davis and hope it works............but when they have tried at various times this season he hasn't been able to separate. The contested catch is good to have on film but even JAGs get those once in a while.......do that and take it to the house while the DB is laying in a pile and maybe you've done something........but simply winning a deep ball is not going to change how a defense attacks him. But even if they do intend to throw him the ball deep more they may not find the time they have to do so with Brown in the lineup.........because Davis doesn't provide you with what Brown can do.............which is to also the ability to take a short pass and burn the defense..........which serves to nullify pass rush..........which then creates more time to go downfield later. I don't know what the actual numbers are but I am pretty sure Allen's "time to pass" is much higher with Brown in there than without. The Chargers were basically just attacking Allen and taking their chances that the Bills WR's couldn't do much with the short throws.........and they couldn't. A healthy Brown matters A LOT.

Playmaking ability is just as important against zone defenses. For example..........Brown is excellent at catching the ball in front of the sticks and making a sudden move and getting low/diving and gaining those extra few yards. How many times yesterday did Diggs catch the ball 2 yards in front of those sticks and get zero RAC? He's a type of WR1.........but much closer to a Jarvis Landry than a Julio Jones. Unfortunately the things he's not are elusive with the ball in his hands or an exceptional deep threat. If your offense can get the secondary playing beyond the sticks.........that is where Diggs can do volume damage.

And despite being able to run the ball they struggled to pass it...........Allen averaged just 6.5 yards per attempt, turned the ball over twice and the Bills didn't have an answer when they dropped back to pass. But I was talking about the bigger picture.......obviously........hence discussing need beyond this season etc.. The objective is to win a Super Bowl very soon. If the objective were to just be a wildcard team or the 4th seed division winner.....then yup..........they can contend in that range with what they have. And yeah I agree that they can't trust that John Brown will come back at any point or be what he was last season or at the outset of this one.........this season their best option is to just hope Brown gets healthy. Needs to be addressed because you get points in the passing game..........and the leaders in ppg read like the Vegas odds favorites to win the SB.

In stats.........22 and then a drop-off to a field of 17, 16, 15, 14.........is the definition of "inordinate". 30% more Panthers than the next closest team isn't a thing. Mmmkay. As for your last point..........again.........no perspective to make it relevant. Like how many of the "17 former Jets" were "competing with camp trash" etc.. Show your work if it matters to you. In a league where the average player career is less than 3 seasons...........it's not "nothing" that 4 offseasons into their regime they signed 5 of their former Carolina players to play significant roles and tried to sign another in Greg Olsen. If they had actually gotten Olsen they could have easily been an opt-in(Lotulelei) and an injury(Norman) away from having 6 of THEIR former Panthers players in the same starting lineups for much of the season(Williams, Klein and Addison) and also had Butler and Marlowe playing 37% and 21% of the snaps............that's A LOT of playing time coming from players from one other team.........it's not a bunch of camp fodder as you'd like to present it. Well I guess we know how Fuller was staying on the field then.

Well he had Adam Thielen opposite him the season that he had 1,000 yards on 100 grabs..........that 10.0 ypc was the lowest such number EVER by a WR that reached 1,000 yards. He's been much more of a possession guy than an explosive play guy in his career...........last year was the sole exception.............this year he is back down at 11.8 ypc. He is a kind of WR1.........but with an arm like Allen in tow you really want a big time field stretcher. And to take full advantage of Diggs I think you NEED it.

That's box score scouting.........one of his catches was a jump ball that only gets thrown because it was a free play and another was a TD pass from Beasley on a trick play..........he wasn't that involved in the regular passing offense. When Brown isn't in there they struggle to create space for Diggs and Beasley.............not struggle like 2017 or 2018...........but struggle relative to what it's going to take to be a real top 5 scoring offense.........as they've often look when Brown has been healthy enough to play. Right now they are 11th in the NFL in scoring...........decent............but not where you should endeavor to be with a talent like Allen or where you want to be when your defense isn't dominant.

Yet another rough passing day without John Brown. Speed is that critical. With Brown having 3 injuries and going into the final year of his contract at age 31 in 2021 a very fast deep threat is probably need #1 for this team in the offseason. They haven't been able to mask the deficiency when they don't have that deep threat. Diggs is a WR1 but he's unfortunately not that electric guy who can either catch a short pass and elude tackles or get over the top with any consistency.

It's arbitrary because there is both zero perspective because you don't compare to other teams and because it's simply full of IRRELEVANT data points. Every team is going to have bunches of new players with little or no actual NFL game experience so including those just serves to create a low number with no comparison to that of other teams. The only broad set of data that can begin to provide real perspective is the amount of players McBeane has signed or traded for with at least one year of NFL experience in that 4 year period. Then if you want to PROVE that figure is small.........you HAVE to show us how it relates to other teams over that period.........otherwise it's just a number without any perspective. We all KNOW that the Bills under McBeane have targeted and signed an inordinate amount of former Panthers. Why anyone would argue that is bizarre. And I forgot Vernon Butler in the 2020 equation too. You are the one defending a absolutely invalid position.........if you want to be a statistician do it right.

First of all what does your baloney 6.5% number actually mean? You have no idea because you don't know how it compares to other teams. What if no other team had even more than 2% of their "unique players" come from a "same NFL organization" over that period? Would the fact that the Bills had "325% more" same team pickups mean anything? With 31 other NFL teams + 450 college programs(130 in division 1 alone) and multiple other pro football leagues you are talking about well over 500 potential draw points..........so it's possible that 6.5% is a sky high figure using that data. Point is.......you have created ZERO perspective with your arbitrarily created data. Start with a relevant field.............like the amount of players McBeane has signed or traded for with at least one year of NFL experience in that 4 year period. How many of those were with McBeane in Carolina? Players who were drafted by the team each year or signed as UDFA's or who had kicked around on practice squads in the NFL or came from the CFL etc.. but never earned an actual season of NFL experience as defined by the CBA are irrelevant to the conversation.........every team drafts and signs a bunch of new to the league players every year.........including players that have had no opportunity to play with McBeane in the pros just waters down your data. In their 4th offseason since leaving Carolina they targeted Greg Olsen, AJ Klein, Daryl Williams and Mario Addison........they signed 3 and they all were expected to compete for starting jobs. Trying to downplay their inordinate interest in players who they worked with is just ignorant. Was Andy Reid still signing this many players from Philly 4 years in at KC? No. It's unusual.

It still amazes me the people who adored SJ13 with the Bills...........guys like him are why you hire coaches to change culture. A little irreverence is fine but he was one of the Bills best players and laziest workers and was willing to hurt the team if it helped him mug for the camera..........and much of his success was due to not running the routes that the play called for. Just an unbelievably selfish player in a sport where 11 guys gotta' be working for the same goal every play to expect success.

No........they were REALLY going at it. Tyson had his usual scary missed kill shots and he was bouncing around in the ring. He looked in a lot better shape than Jones but maybe that's all Jones can do at his 51. And Tyson did thump Jones in the face good a few times but Jones was able to get away and recover. Jones was hugging Tyson as much as possible.....like Holyfield used to........so he got pounded in the ribs for 8 rounds. Jones was in a lot of pain, holding his guts in and exhausted after the fight. Tyson had barely broken a sweat........he was ecstatic at how it turned out and said he was going to do it again and Roy should too but Roy wasn't so sure at that moment. It was fun and it wasn't an exhibition it was a real fight. And the fight before that was entertaining too. Nate Robinson the slam dunk champion from the Knicks against this internet punk Luke Paul. Paul came in to Kurtis Blows' basketball........mocking Robinson.....quite hilarious.......and then proceeded to knock him down 3 times in a round and a half and the last time he was out like a light. Some exhibition! We didn't have to pay for it but it was definitely worth the $50 if you had a bunch of people there.

Like he was fighting for his life.........gassed.........and then like a pile of mashed potatoes after Tyson worked his body for 16 minutes. But he was able to get a few ineffectual jabs in and win some points from one of the judges.......he's still a tactician..........he tried to hang on Tyson and tie him up but it was actually still a very entertaining fight. He's going to wish he was dead tomorrow though.

They had been trying to acquire a WR1 for two years...........they tried to swing deals for Antonio Brown and AJ Green as well.............yeah it was an absolute necessity to give their young QB that kind of player. And I don't remember a lot of criticism of the move at all..........just that they paid a lot more than Arizona paid for Hopkins. "A truly franchise altering move"? Bryce Paup actually won the NFL Defensive Player of the Year in his first year with Buffalo........was that "franchise altering"? Very few personnel decisions are.........and they are almost exclusively QB's.

1) Now Kelvin Benjamin wasn't even acquired? Let alone traded for and paid $8.5M for that abysmal 2018 partial season? 2) You are counting some of the same players multiple times in your "360 players" math. Jordan Poyer isn't a different player every year........Shaq was with McD for 3 years he doesn't count 3 times. 3) Bad counting / bad counting = 5%(not really, even that was wrong) Look.......you protest too much...........McBeane have taken shots on A LOT of former Carolina Panthers..........it's a fact.

#2 by a lot SJ13 angrily blaming the father, son and holy ghost for making him drop the ball just made it a hat on a hat of Billsy. SJ13 was a total screwball...........I am glad Bills fans don't have to have a nutcase like that as a face of the franchise type anymore.

Yeah I am on the fence about how much the shoulder affected his play........could be, but I think it was more the health of Smoke and defensive adjustments made by other teams. But they've seen it now and Gabe Davis has some more games under his belt and hopefully the TE's are ready to step up more and the defense is playing better now IMO. It SHOULD be a better situation than going into the KC and TN games........but I am admittedly biased regarding the value of that big play speed at WR. If they get in a shootout not having Brown probably hurts a lot............but at least not putting Brown on IR until the day before the game probably prevented the Chargers from really game planning to squat on that Bills passing game more.

That would be awesome. Or a home game.

And I thought his regular season was pretty much over immediately after that injury in Arizona.........and seeing as we aren't allowed to have information until the last minute with this regime.......I have been waiting for the other shoe to drop. I don't expect him back until the New England game.........it's a 4-6 week injury but for a small WR it should be AT LEAST a 6 week injury if you expect them to get their full speed and quickness back. This puts them back closer to they were personnel-wise in their October slide so should be a good test to see if Allen/Daboll are able to adapt better this time.

No, not really. It was one of the greatest SB upsets ever for a reason. And they weren't that much more individually talented thru the next 2 SB wins either. Not sure how Bills fans could mis-remember that...........we even had Marv Levy come in here and sign 15 journeyman free agents openly admitting that the thought process was that he felt Dick Jauron could replicate that Patriot personnel synergy. Every team has some good players though........which is why it's a non-point to say good coaches need good players.