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Correct......but name one situation where you can compare HC hires/setups/rebuilds etc.. as "apples to apples"? No two are exactly alike. It's a non-argument. In the NFL most observers/critics/players/coaches fill in the unknown with absolutes to decide how much to invest on the field...........and that's how a guy like Belichick keeps finding dudes to run thru the wall for him.

Dallas should definitely fire McCarthy.......that hire was inexplicable, IMO............then they should hire Kris Richard as HC and let him bring Rod Marinelli back as DC............it would be an upgrade but at the same time not a total shakeup or a bunch of guys brought in that have to learn the organization. That would be a different example of the kind of off script you are talking about. Richard is sitting out voluntarily until he gets AT LEAST a DC job.......but it seems to me from everything I have heard that he is a better HC candidate than a DC one. He checks some boxes that would be wise for JJ to consider checking.

Yep 0-2 in playoffs 1-6 versus chief rival I am looking forward to McD doing what it takes to engineer a second defeat of the Patriots and an extended playoff run.......but I'm not a Bills player who has to trust the process........and to those guys perception is reality.

Excellent work, thanks for the info. I think 8 is always the over under for HC firings. Having Patricia as DC would help Daboll in the same way that having Gus Bradley helped Anthony Lynn. If you are going to hire an unknown like Daboll who has been fired from 3 coordinating jobs in the NFL you really need him to bring a staff you can sell to the fans. But I think that there will be somewhat surprising retread hires as well so Daboll is far from a lock for a HC job. I do think that the situation is more ripe than ever for college coaches to jump though too. A lot of these college programs are losing epic dollars this season and the chaos in college football has to be maddening for a HC. I suspect more than a few major college HC's have been asked to forego payments or take salary cuts........and they are working as hard as ever. The NFL is a steady ship by comparison.

You're kinda' building a straw man here. But fwiw.........Beasley and Diggs offer a lot of the same to your offense...........Diggs averages 11.8 ypr and Beasley 11.7 ypr.........Diggs is 36th in RAC and Beasley is 38th in RAC. You can't get much closer than that. So while it would be a big loss, not having Beasley doesn't sink your chain moving efforts. John Brown is a career 14.8 ypr guy..........as mentioned earlier in this thread he might be the best Z receiver in the NFL..........and he was by far the Bills best WR in 2019. So I don't know where you've come up with this hyperbole about Beasley being "far, far" more important. What having Brown does is push the defense beyond the sticks so Diggs' short receptions with zero RAC would be first downs instead of 2 yards shy...........that was the case early in the season when Diggs was catching first down after first down. It helps Beasley get space too.......but he starts becoming real small target 20 yards down the field...........where Diggs at 6' with long arms is still a viable option downfield if they decide to flip he and Browns' routes. So give me a healthy Brown and Diggs every time.

That and they've physically slapped the McD Bills offense around a couple times and are liable to be very confident in their chances of doing it again. I am still pissed at Matt Judon for the cheap shots on Allen in that Peterman-inspired opening day debacle in 2018........definitely prefer to avoid them in WC round but whoever it is they have to win a game or 4 in the playoffs this year.

Foster was a rookie who put up 540 yards in just 43% of the teams snaps.....20 yards per catch........he was projecting as a potential WR1.......then poof! Zilch. THAT 2018 draft and UDFA class looked very deep and promising in their rookie years too..........since then they look like two first round starters and a bunch of spare parts. Except of course for Wyatt Teller who they regrettably dealt to Cleveland.

My personal favorite was drafting and developing a 34 defense for 22 years and when it finally has reached the point where it is the identity of a perennial playoff franchise and they have the best NT in the game...........they hire Greggo and dump Ted Washington and the 34. It cratered the on field product of the franchise and they spent a fortune trying to get back what they had and it set in motion all the failure to come. The Bills could have done what the Steelers did..........ironically it was a former Steeler GM that wrecked it.

He looked like Star..........didn't make any sudden movements or tackles.......but better than a typical Star-lead result and for 5 cents on the dollar.....3.2 ypc by Chargers. All Star jokes aside..........success in run defense is primarily want-to and execution.......we have seen improvement of late and I'd attribute much of it there.......they are better at the point of attack. The Bills current run defense is allowing 4.7 ypc........up from last season at this time but improving........and right in between where last season's SB matchup Niners(4.5) and Chiefs (4.9) finished in 2019.

It's a quote from the book, Don. Adapted to screen. Justin Herberts gramps I think.

When you wish upon (a 31-32 year old) Star................🤩

Yes they are excellent at the draft. Helps so much to have an ownership group that has been made up of football people for most of the past 50 years..........a lot less trial and error in their management/coaching decisions. That stability in ownership has helped the Steelers maintain their identities on both sides of the ball for a very long time........which makes drafting so much easier.

Well yep.......tell it to those dudes. The point of my post was to point out that modest success in a rookie season........which is often graded on a curve anyway.........does not consistently translate into better or even similar results in year 2 or thereafter. I'm not saying Gabe Davis or Zach Moss or Devin Singletary Dawson Knox will become complete busts........... but if they do you will get over it quick just like you no doubt did when Robert Foster blew out like a dud bottle rocket. The draft will keep importing hope and coaches will keep giving rookies too many snaps because they fell in love with their tape and they are cheap.........and as @NoSaint pointed out........fans will read too much into those rookies getting PT and expect they will all only improve.

I don't believe they can win it without him this season.....but with him they at least have a punchers chance. They won't score enough without what he brings to their offense. I know people think 27 is a lot of points but 26.5 is 14th in the league and 27.5 is 9th...........it's only "good". How important is being a top 6 scoring team in the NFL? This year the top 3 seeds in both conferences are in the top 6 in scoring. But I do think John Brown is a near lock to be on the roster next season. I am not exactly sure why you disagreed with my original post........you are telling me things I already know..........they need to act like he WON'T be back because he is going to be 31 and will be coming off an injury RIDDLED season and is in the last year of his deal anyway. They have a number of areas to improve on.........as do most teams, that's parity..........but the position where one good player would make the most difference is there........we've seen what his presence does for the offense as a whole.

That would be a record short time for one of Urbs scandals to come to light. But I am predicting fibromyalgia..........gotta be some kind of silent killer where the doctor looks into your eyes like Larry David to see if you're just tryna get disability pay. Urb and his illnesses are definitely Curb material.

At this point last year Oliver, Ford, Singletary, Knox, Bam Johnson and Tommy Sweeney were getting the same level of hype or more than this class. There have been moments this season.........and they still could pan out later........ but that is a startling amount of "meh" or outright regression from a draft class in year 2 right there. And that happens more than you'd think..........rookies are like new toys.........teams often can't wait to march them out there but if they disappoint at all they can depreciate quickly in the eyes of management.

They need a game breaking RB but spending more early picks on them is shortsighted. Early picks are for foundation pieces...........that's where you take risks on long term difference makers you wouldn't have many chances at in UFA. You can still find RB's that can offer playmaking ability all over the draft or in UDFA.........and of course in UFA because nobody wants to pay them.............you just have to choose well. Drafting a RB early after taking two in the third round the prior two drafts is throwing good money after bad.

They are the second most penalized team in the NFL for the most yardage. They are allowing to 4.7 ypc this season versus 4.3 ypc last year and the chief reason is players being undisciplined in the front 7. Yes, there are worse teams........that "well the Lions are worse" bit is the old Promo argument during the drought............but they are not a disciplined team and when you are not a top 5 scoring team or create a lot of turnovers you really gotta' play a cleaner game to expect to get to a SB.

They are the second most penalized team in the NFL for the most yardage. Not sure about just the halves........a lot of the memorable stuff is second half though like the Ed Oliver double yesterday or the second half nonsense against the Chiefs. Blowing a 16 point lead in the second half of the playoff game in Houston is going to loom over the discussion leading up to the first playoff game and it will be in the back of the minds of the players. McD needs to get off that schneid. A better performance and another win over New England would be very helpful going forward as well...........don't want to split and have only won the first one on a last second reprieve going into next season when Belichick has a re-tooled roster.

I think we've seen some blatantly disconnected situations under McD where a lot of players on the defense have just gotten frustrated with some game plans and gone off script........often leading to horrendous results. The worst 3 game defensive stretch in team history in 2017. Plenty of quit in the first half of 2018. Lot's of free lancing in the struggles early this year(specifically Jerry Hughes). It seems like every season they go thru periods where McD struggles to rein them in at times. They are not a particularly mentally disciplined team on either side of the ball..........which has to be a source of frustration for someone like McD who works so hard to tie up every loose end. And yes winning some playoff games this season would be absolutely huge for McD going forward. A bunch of educated 35-75 year old white males on a message board can poo-poo the idea but the reality is that a 25 year old football player doesn't have as much life experience and they fill in the blanks of what they don't understand with mythology like "Shula can take his and beat yours and yours and beat his".

They were effective enough yesterday against a Chargers team that is just unreal at making mistakes late in games...........but turnover stats are as reliable of a predictor as any.........you lose MOST games where you are -2. And the Bills are also the most scored on second half team in the entire NFL this year and the second most penalized. Those let downs and mistakes are not reflective of the meticulous McDermott. Remember.........the context of this branch of the discussion is why Vrabel had stood out in big games..........and why McD struggles in them. McD is 1-6 vs Belichick and 0-2 in playoffs. He's a last second Cam Newton fumble from 0-9 in what I would argue are his 9 highest leverage games as a Bill. I don't think he and his players are on the same page the way Belichick and Vrabel(and increasingly Flores) are...........the Bills players don't entirely trust the process and it hurts them even more in emotionally charged matchups...........which is probably NATURAL when you as a HC haven't proven somehow or somewhere that you help tilt the scale for your team in big games.

I don't think Vrabel is a great coach..........but he does an extraordinary job of getting his players to assume his personality/mindset. So in big games they are galvanized and a united front. It's something Belichick is GREAT at. There can't be many better coaches in the NFL from Monday thru Saturday than McD............but try as he might the team is always pulling against his leash. I mean..........in that Chargers game in the 4th quarter it felt like they were the anti-McD's.........and McD was watching from afar without much he could do to stop it. I think the only way to correct that is for him to win some playoff games and garner that last level of trust from the players.

For the people who wonder why the Bills can't finish off teams.........that is why. They are short a couple players...........an elite pass rusher on defense and a game breaker on offense. When the other team is in desperation mode the Bills can't turn up the heat.........their pass rush is steady but can't really cash in when QB's hold onto the ball a bit longer..........and they don't have a player on offense who can take advantage of an over pursuing defense. So the opponent is able to take more chances on both sides of the ball when they are down on the scoreboard.

To all those who openly worried for his health when he was on his "farewell you ingrates, you'll miss me when I'm gone, smell ya' later" tour..........welcome to the Urban Liar experience.

After AJ Klein the next highest paid LB that is NOT still on their rookie contract is Kyler Fackrell at $4.6M. That is a HUGE drop. $6M is literally the point of demarcation for excellent starting LB pay. You can throw in all the "rookie" starters.......he's still not being paid commensurate to a reserve using any curve or not. Same goes for Josh Norman the NFL's 33rd highest paid CB. These guys were NOT paid that kind of money to be reserves. They have signed a lot of players with expectation of excellent starting performance and though we like the very recent play of Klein.........of all of those they have invested millions in only Daryl Williams has consistently met expectations. It hasn't been a productive avenue for them.