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Prior to last season the Chiefs had 3 first ballot HOF'ers(Reid,Mahomes, Kelce) leading their passing game. First ballot locks if they had all quit prior to the season. They had won 2 of the last 4 SB's and had two of the top 32 receiving yardage leaders for 5 consecutive seasons.......even after trading Tyreek. Contrast that with the 2024 Bills passing game. They've been outperformed in the passing game by KC every year since 2020(which was the last time the Bills had two receivers in the top 32 in yardage). If Allen retired tomorrow there is no HOF in his future. He's Randall Cunningham or Mike Vick if it ends now. Not even Cam Newton level yet because no SB appearance and no MVP award. It was fun, but that's about it. Brady? Kincaid? Shakir? Samuel? Not even Hall of worth mentioning yet. So it's pretty clear why the Chiefs might warrant the benefit of the doubt. Is it not? Is it really apples to apples when the Bills are as unproven by comparison? But why were the Chiefs WR deficient in the first place? Because they had 2022 1st and 2nd round picks on the team(guys who had made big plays and scored TD's in their most recent SB win) and a 2023 second round pick WR. They were expecting those highly invested, high pedigree players to breakout and complement the already great Kelce and a receiver in MVS who had produced more yards in 2022 than any of the Bills current weapons did in 2023. More than Kincaid, Shakir or Samuel. A lot went wrong..........but as usual they still finished with 2 of the top 32 receiving yardage leaders because Rice became a WR1 during the season. They even rested their starters in week 18 and still ranked that highly. So like I said........you judge what they took to camp which was unproven but made some sense given their investments made in Moore/Toney/Rice. Then look at the autopsy. The autopsy says they finished 3rd in pass completions and 6th in passing yards so their passing game was actually really good. And their season only ended because they ran out of teams to beat. If the Bills do that, great. But they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt like HOF'ers with rings. Sorry.

YOU need to relax. It's only week one, for chrissakes! As I've said before.........you look at the team you took to camp and then you do the autopsy at the end of the season. They took a bottom of the league WR corps to camp. We won't know for certain if the plan worked until the end of the season. In the meantime, everyone feel free to express your potentially fluctuating opinion daily even if some jag thinks you aren't relaxed enough.

And finally Dominguez gets called up for the Yankees/Tigers game from Williamsport https://nypost.com/2024/08/18/sports/yankees-call-up-jasson-dominguez-for-first-time-this-season/ might just be for a game but reportedly batting 5th

Great post. Andreessen's play stunned me. I didn't see anything from him last week and then he's suddenly doing everything right. It is not easy to get me concerned about the LB corps. They are still some of the easier athlete profiles for an NFL team to find and(last KC loss notwithstanding) they usually get quality play from whoever they run out there. But I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop on Milano or Bernard getting injured all camp and Spector and Ulofoshio are brittle too. Then Milano happened. Having Andreessen and Williams look good was a relief and a renewal of the confidence I always have in back 7 positions with McD. Rousseau - I've been a big believer in Rousseau and I think it's his time. He still really needs a edge bender opposite him to maximize his skills but I think he's going to have a big year. Davis - We saw why he's so good. The Bills haven't had a lot of his style of RB over the last 15 years so it was fun to see that more Travis Henry-like low c-of-g style again. Grable - I'm a fan of the young depth on the OL. I think Beane will be able to get a late pick or a swap for the 10th or 11th guy. Beane........I'd say we have to itemize Beane's good night as just wrt his day 3 picks. Those look really good. Obviously the day 1-2 picks haven't as yet and guys like Trubisky and MVS look like terrible signings. And on day 3 I'm still perplexed about why they didn't want Austin Booker and instead traded that pick to the Bears for a 4th next year. That felt like a gift of the particular kind Beane most loves(pass rusher) when he fell there. Solomon has looked like a very good developmental prospect and offers great special teams versatility with his compact frame and long arms as well......and I liked that pick in isolation........but Booker really checks all the boxes for the McDefense physically. Mitch Trubisky - I absolutely hated that signing. I think I argued with you a bit in the offseason about just HOW bad he is. His confidence is SHOT. He might kick around the NFL long enough to get it back sometime in his 30's but even this gig is too big for him right now. Jonathan - His lack of progress/consistency has been a disappointment. Torrence - For what it's worth, I heard he was very good in the practice setting against Pittsburgh. Seems like a lot of nitpicking of the OL from observers this preseason.......I feel good about the OL in general. It was time for Mitch Morse to go, IMO. Especially if they want to be more physical. What I don't feel good about is that they are going to be basically playing against loaded boxes all season if they don't find a solution to their lack of a threat to stretch the field. WR battle - it's gone exactly to any reasonable person's expectation. No answers whatsoever on the boundary. Practice squad - yeah like we discussed last week.........they don't have 53 gotta'-keep NFL players. They are probably going to keep a bunch of guys they would have tried to slip thru to the PS any other training camp over the last 5 years and just shrugged if they couldn't.

SHOULD. They only have 3 WR's of any consequence. Hollins is just a special teamer. Nobody would have been surprised if MVS was nothing more than a practice squad player this year given how his career turned for the worse last season. They are at the point where they are looking for retired players to come back to the NFL. Wow. I fully expect Will Fuller to be in for a tryout next. 😂

Metcalf is the ideal fit, IMO. I even strongly prefer him over Aiyuk, which is why I haven't been all that interested in him even though Aiyuk is universally seen as the better regular season player at this point in their careers. Metcalf's skillset just lines up with what the Bills lack. A weatherproof field stretcher who EXCELS when the refs aren't throwing flags. 4 career playoff games(3 on the road) and he has 451 yards and 5 TD's. He's probably the only playoff-Kelce equivalent at WR. And Metcalf's two highest yardage playoff games top anything Kelce has in his 22 game postseason career. Granted, it's a small sample size.......but we know why Metcalf succeeds in the playoffs so there isn't any reason to think it wouldn't continue to translate.

Yeah some hilariously horrible takes in that one. @Jay_Fixit "Mahomes will be awful. And there’s nothing Andy Reid can do about it" @oldmanfan just crapping on Mahomes and Reid all that preseason and then coming back to close the thread with more of his customary sour grapes. One of the best though is @H2o starting the thread and trolling @jeffismagic..........then later saying @jeffismagic is probably laughing at "us". Throwing all TSW under the bus for a thread he, for some strange reason, felt compelled to start. Classic! The list of bad takes is long.

Good news on Jizz:

Yep. The Bills were probably the Hilarius Toney off-side in KC from missing the playoffs entirely........and then the narrative with Brady is that he didn't put his superstar receiver in position to succeed.

Oy vey what ignorance. Diggs played 82% of the Bills offensive snaps in 2023. More than he played in 2022 (77%) and exact same % as 2021. Be better. Get out of your emotions.

FIFY My "agenda" here is to talk Bills football and be entertained. It's all entertainment. But that doesn't mean we have to be intellectually dishonest about the product that's put on the field. You aren't ever going to come here and find nothing but "like minds" that you seek. Everyone's experience and what they expect from the product are not going to be the same. So getting your nose bent during a nuanced discussion about a specific topic.......to the point where you are asking about agenda's.....that is showing how thin your skin is. So I guess I can then ask: What's your agenda as a fan? How much do you invest in this team? If it's less than me are you less of a fan? Or don't our differences matter then?😉

So every receiver who isn't drawing double teams is playing badly? Man, this "in aggregate" formula to success is complicated. I think @JerseyBills might be running a ponzi scheme here.

Why would you think 4K is meaningfully good for one of the top 2 QB's in the NFL? Mahomes has averaged 296 yards passing per game over his career..........that's an average of over 5,000 yards in a 17 game season. That's an objective worth talking about. Mahomes' 261 yards passing per game last year was well down from that........but still more than Josh Allen..........even though some people here act like the Chiefs passing game was a complete sh!t show and the Bills just need to get "quietly" better.

Yeah there is definitely truth to that, IMO. His T-Rex arms were never going to allow him to be a first round pick even if he ran like Worthy did. If he becomes a superstar WR he will be a one-of-one with arms that short. Literally, not figuratively. In that scenario, it's reasonable to not believe it til you see it.

Unfortunately, true. We hope there is a lot more production there. There might be. He's talented. But if he were a 5th rounder and had done that last year we wouldn't be predicting that he's the next Kelce. His first round pedigree is coloring a lot of the takes. There are lots of good TE's.........but the average fan is oblivious to most of them. If all he becomes is a good TE that's fine. You don't pick any receiving target at the end of round 1 nowadays and expect them to become a first team All Pro just because.

You don't even know what you are arguing about and never did. You hadn't followed the discussion.......took it way out of context and now are just unwilling to admit it. I countered the "idea" by posters who I've already cited that Kincaid and Shakir were the best receivers on the team at the end of last season with the dose of reality that.......regardless of your opinion on their rank.......their production wasn't really all that good. If you want to grade them on a curve then you need to take other things into account. Now contrast THAT, with Rashee Rice for the Chiefs. His numbers WERE big time. They do project out to WR1 numbers. No curve needed. This idea that it's "problem solved" for the Bills because they have their "top 2 receivers" back is a stretch.

So Beasley and Brown were mediocre before they joined the Bills? Incorrect. If you missed the "Allen can elevate mediocre WR's into good one's" then you've missed the discussion point altogether. Brown had been a 1,000 yard receiver before Allen and Beasley had been a consistent producer. Both were signed to free agent contracts that indicated that they were already good. They topped their career bests(once) with Allen by like 60 yards and 130 yards as I recall.

If you stretch the truth in both directions it makes the story seem bigger than it is.

I expect big things from Kincaid. But there has only been one Kelce. Not having a player who commands the coverage of CB1's like Sauce, Ramsey and Gonzalez in division allows those teams to be creative with where they put those guys. We saw a "great" split TE in Jimmy Graham be reduced to ineffective when he went to Seattle and defense's put a CB on him instead of him being able to roam against LB and S. Matchups are very important. Kincaid and Shakir may have been more "open" than Diggs.........but they weren't getting blanketed by a CB1 or even a CB2. And being that Kincaid and Shakir will be making most of their grabs in the same area of the field.......not having a difference maker on the boundary creates a matchup problem.

Diggs underperformed in the second half but wasn't "objectively bad". Was Kincaid "objectively bad" under Brady because he produced less than Diggs? Because that's the case. And you are predicting Kelce results for Kincaid........which are the greatest ever for a split TE. Just getting a little hyperbolic, I'd say.

The topic became nuanced.........which is the enemy of vaguery. Nowhere did anyone say Kincaid and Shakir weren't "the 2 most promising players we have as receiving threats". Certainly not me. So you are creating a straw man for no reason. You yourself know that they haven't done as much as they should have.

Just another vague rationalization. That hasn't proven to be the case in his career so far. Sherfield, Sharty, Lil' Dummy? Or in Mahomes' career either. MVS, Kadarius Toney, Skyy Moore.......has Mahomes elevated them? No.

I think I heard on WGR today that Pete LaCock hit a grand slam off of Bob Gibson for the last hit allowed in Gibson's career.