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That is as some Mike McDaniel-esque word salad right there.

The Bills have scored more points than the Chiefs in 3 of the last 4 seasons and subsequently more points overall since Allen broke out in 2020. Higher point differential as well. Everyone on this board should know that. The reality is that chasers often run up more numbers. See 2023 Tua and the Dolphins easily outscoring/passing the Bills on the season despite getting swept by Buffalo in their matchups. Allen/Mahomes is close........but the Chiefs have had better quality playmakers in that span of time. And it's mattered "week in and week out" when those weeks happened to be against the Bills in the playoffs. How did they do in their 3 playoff defeats of Buffalo? Kelce/Tyreek/Rice combined for 50 receptions on 58 attempts for a ridiculous 658 yards and a tidy 6 TD's. The quality of player on the field with that QB has made a big difference in those games. Would be nice if Buffalo had a 1-2 punch to throw at the Chiefs in the playoffs but hasn't been the case.

This is actually the crux of the offseason debate. Column A WR's aren't good enough to win a SB Column B They are fine, it worked last year Two different goal posts. Some of those in column B ventured into "well the Chiefs won the SB" with a bad WR corps and the debate about whether they were bad or not come January......... but most of the vocal defender's of the Bills moves(or lack thereof) at WR were just aiming at a lower bar than winning the SB. It was already clear that Brady ball can win a lot of regular season games. But it was also clear that it comes at the expense of hard mileage on the QB and lesser passing game numbers. Those things have held true. The QB got injured running the ball and the bulk passing numbers are predictably poor. Perhaps I missed it but I never saw @HappyDays or @Kirby Jackson claim that this team wouldn't be a top 10 scoring offense the way they were constituted. That seemed a given with Josh Allen. It's not any surprise to anyone that they've won 2 of the seemingly most winnable games on their schedule Arizona in Buffalo and @ Miami(who they had beaten 11 of the last 12 meetings). We will see how it all worked out in February.

Actually one of the reasons for the defensive rebound has been that it's not easy to get a PI or illegal contact call against you if you are a DB. The league has gotten very lax with contact in the secondary. Contact that Gene Steratore now says didn't impact the play would have earned a flag back when the Bills were going to SB's. I'm not saying I dislike the way they call it now but DB's are just hanging all over receivers. Back when QB's were getting murdered in the pocket and WR's could be killed at the catch point WR's were relatively free to roam without the ball.

So much of it has already been said but had gone in one ear and out the other of the masses who need to believe that their coordinator is either bad or great and not just taking the least complicated approach. The decision to move to "complementary football" was an organizational one not just a Brady concoction. They had already begun trying out this approach for a full game versus Tampa before Dorsey was canned. It was a tough call because it was going to expose the QB to a lot more wear and tear and not be flattering to their star players statistically. We knew this HOF QB version of Jauron Ball wins regular season games and reduces the likelihood of getting upset. But time will tell if it was the right call. Week 1 and QB1 already had the under-Brady-standard 9 rushes and finished with a hand injury. As an aside.....Funny hearing Brian Daboll talking about "complementary football" in his weekly Giants postgame loss PC's now. Laugh out loud kinda' funny.

Brady is hunting EPA

It's just early in the season. Refs are always flag-happy early trying to set the tone for what is supposed to be acceptable and then by the playoffs none of the sh!t is getting called.

Yep. Or ask Boomer Esiason. Bruce knocked him out cold as a Jet. Or ask Bruce Matthews who gave up 4 sacks to Bruce in one game when the Oilers tried to put him at LT. Bruce definitely raised the bar for what a 265# DE could do athletically.

Reality: It is, in fact, cool seeing more plays. There are only like 13 minutes of action in a 3 hour NFL game so it's not like the snap is happening simultaneously in each game/box. In triple box you can almost watch each game simultaneously and not miss any action which gives a much better feel for what's going on within each game. In the rare case that I miss something important in one box, I scroll back 15 seconds and re-watch that box. Think I did that twice yesterday.

Yanks recently clinched their 32nd consecutive winning season..........which is an incredible accomplishment. https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/yankees-beat-cubs-32nd-straight-winning-season/ Obviously the Yankees own the longest streak in north american pro sports having had 39 straight from 1926 thru 1964. The Montreal Canadiens had owned the second longest streak at 32 from the 50's thru the 80's but now these Yanks have tied them. The next longest current streak of winning seasons in MLB belongs to the Dodgers who clinched their 14th recently. After that, the Braves with just 7.

Yeah, that's my bad. I guess I just can't wrap my head around why you think you are an outlier in thinking that Shakir can be a good starting receiver. I could understand better if you were predicting year 3 Shakir was going to replicate A-R St. Brown's year 3 stats. That would be extraordinary. 900? Not so much. There is still a big difference between 900 and 1100 yards.......that's two different tiers of receiver. It's like the difference between 9 wins and 11 wins. To paraphrase Parcells......."it's easy to get to 9 wins.......11-12 is an entirely different matter". Gabe Davis peaked at 55.7 yards per game in 2022. They really needed him to get to 65+ as the second option to keep pace with what they had done by committee in 2021-2022. 55 yards is not that high of a bar but you have been acting like it would be surreal and you were the only one who saw it coming. I mean, he was one of the most hyped 5th round picks I've ever seen. Even Beane took a victory lap saying that other GM's were calling to congratulate him for getting a good player they coveted in the 5th. His strengths have been exactly what was lauded on draft day. No surprises. His projected weakness(playing outside) has been able to be worked around. And you can do that if the player isn't a primary option. Here is the draft thread, does it seem like fans were sleeping on him?:

The more normal result is that a great WR is great even if his QB(s) aren't very good. That happens. Does a great QB ever double the otherwise reasonably expected output of a WR to the extent of making him one of the top producers in the game? I don't think we've EVER seen that happen. The QUALITY of WR talent matters.

And like I said he hasn't really been utilized enough to EXPECT to have a reasonable comp yet.........but also if he becomes a star WR with those 29" T-Rex arms he will be the first of his kind.

Incorrect. A lot of comps have already been made for Shakir. From Beasley to Kupp. Foster, Davis and Burkett were true outside receivers. The point, obviously, being that Shakir had a crazy productive season on a very limited amount of targets. Foster had 44 targets in 2018 and Shakir had 45 in 2023. As we've learned periodically over the years, incredibly WR efficiency over a paltry amount of targets usually hasn't scaled up.

Yeah I think at one point you said between 800-1200 yards, correct? Which is a huge range in wide receiver production. That's the difference between 2023 Jamar Chase.....who may become the highest paid WR in the NFL soon...........or 2023 Jayden Reed/Jakoby Myers who were 50 yard per game guys. Which isn't being very specific, IMO. If he turns out to be Reed or Myers that's a pretty sizable jump from being a 600 yard bulk guy.....but certainly not star level jump. I think he will get to 900+ but it will take a lot of targets and could come down to whether they feel compelled to take him off the field for Coleman to try to get their raw 1st round pick some lighter lifting slot work.

Well, he was basically the 4th receiving target to the opposition most of last season. As with Gabe Davis in 2022......what he is capable of will be much clearer this year with the larger sample size and doing it as the #1 or #2 focus of the opposing pass defense. Shakir had 3 excellent games out of 17 last regular season. He averaged 104 yards in those games. His next 5 best dropped off precipitously to just 44.6 average. Then basically 9 games of nothing. Sample size is just too small to project into the role he is going into as WR1 for the 2nd best QB in the NFL. I doubt his incredible small-sample production drops off like it did for Robert Foster after he averaged a ridiculous 20 yards per catch in 2018. But we've also seen other WR's have great limited role seasons like Davis and Chris Burkett(who lead the NFL with 22.9 yards per reception on 34 grabs in 1986.......and then needed 56 catches to get almost the same bulk production in 1987).

I presume Shakir will lead the Bills in receiving yards.......I know people love Kincaid for that but an untested, elevated WR1 is generally the better bet than an unproven TE1..........but 13.5 yards per target on 100 targets? C'mon now. It was one thing doing that in limited exposure last year..........defense's aren't just going to let him roll up 80 yards per game and leave nickel and dime defenders on him. That would be a pretty crazy season if he did that with so little else around him. Aiyuk had a similar ypt last year but that was with Deebo, Kittle and McCaffrey also commanding attention.

"Let me know.........if you see a radio shack." -Ricky Pearsall

Is someone upset? And if so did they not explain why.......leaving you unsure? Is it really necessary to gaslight and straw man every topic or do some simple equations like this not really need ceremonial fan-shaming?

I can't think of any 1st who has washed out that quick and then PS'd their way back to a good career with their next team. But Rasul Douglas was a late 3rd rounder in 2017 and failed with Philly and Carolina before kicking around 4 practice squads in 2021 and breaking out late in that season with Green Bay. He might be the patron saint for this kind of thing.

QB's are still primarily judged by team success and you don't really get on the list of great one's until you've either won 1 or been to multiple.

....good to hear, we worry about you.

I know you probably presume Andreessen is player #53 because you were certain he wouldn't make the roster. You probably thought Florida State would beat Georgia Tech too.

I suspect he'd get a bit more rope if he went somewhere else