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Gabe Davis too!

Well then show us that career statistical analysis you did that proves your point and that you aren't fabricating facts. If you want to cross over from irrational homer posting emotional takes for thumbs into the reality based discussions where what you say has some factual basis you have to use facts(in this case, stats) and not just your feels. I notice in your similar criticism of Cooper you didn't note that you didn't note that Shakir has had 3 very low production games in the last 4. Including dropping a number of catchable down field passes.

What rush? You saw the title and CHOSE to open the thread. The more obvious question is why not? NFL personnel departments do this year round so there will inevitably be fans who will as well. Roster building is a year round topic for the kind of Bills nerds who would post on a message board. Of the hundreds of Bills fans who live near me and I interact with regularly here in WNY I am the only one I know of who posts on TSW. Even some pretty obsessed ones who have strong opinions. This is a VERY small group of Bills information enthusiasts. It's all just entertainment......has no more real meaning than that........if it doesn't constitute entertainment to you then just don't click on it.

Amari Cooper had 8 games of 89 or more yards receiving in 2023 in 15 games played. So 8 of his 15 games played were ABOVE his per game average. It's entirely disingenuous to imply that he traditionally just has "a few big games" and the rest are "meh to invisible". You continue to just make false narratives around stats you just made up.

Why are there always a few people who feel the need to inform the OP that they don't want to talk about a topic if it isn't of interest to them at the moment? Whether it's looking ahead at the schedule or the offseason, whatever. It's presumed that if you don't respond you don't care. So is it superstition? Do you think you are part of the team and shouldn't be looking ahead? A general lack of understanding that this is all just meaningless discussion for entertainment purposes?

Grogan took a lot of blindside hits and that neck kept getting longer with each whiplash. He was held together with chewing gum and popsicle sticks at the time of that picture. https://youtu.be/EBf43TYJPLE?si=x48wDFLP5_hb7o4D

Yeah that was just a weird thread decision for a lot of reasons. Not the least of which is that teams with bad RT play have been winning SB's periodically for years. You can scheme around issues there. But also because Brown was so inexperienced and so athletic and his growth had been slowed by an injury the year prior. The guy played 7 man football in HS, barely played in college but started at RT as a rookie in the NFL and was decent. That was impressive, all things considered. He wasn't a player who should have been on any kind of thin ice with the fans. But some folks were unnecessarily impatient. I don't disagree about the contract though. That was a significant risk at a position where you don't need a stud player to succeed. RT is not really an edge/island position because they typically have a TE to help. And I thought Grable or even Gouraige might be able to step in next year for pennies on the dollar. But I've always believed in Spencer Brown and glad they have him. But there will be things they can't do because of that contract so time will tell if it was the right move. The extension starts next season.

In Houston, Settle is only asked to play the run if it's thru the gap he is diving thru. Sorta' reminds me of the role Kyle Williams had here for much of his career. Not the George Edwards DC year where they played a 3-4 and Kyle was maybe the worst NT I've ever seen but the years he was in 4-3 looks.

Yeah this is the thread you were talking about. Brown obviously improved as the season went on but the basic premise that he was the biggest problem in 2022 and then again at the start of 2023 was wrong. Saffold was the biggest problem in 2022. By A LOT. But the person you were talking about wanting to trade Spencer Brown was @NewEra.

Oh, I think it's primarily an X an O thing. This isn't a "defend every blade of grass" style of defense. It's "bend, don't break". It's "we do what we do, we don't make broad schematic changes for different opponents". And needing 5-6 DB's to execute what they want means that the DL has more run responsibility than some other defenses......to make up for the lack of LB presence. Which detracts from the pass rush potential. And I think it generally makes them a less physical, less violent defense.......which leads to those gashes in the run game etc.. This all makes it appear that the requisite talent just isn't there. I know it won't happen, but if this defense has another playoff meltdown McD really should just bring in a high quality veteran defensive mind to run a different version of this 4-2-5. 8 years in, this defense shouldn't still have the same vulnerabilities/issues. They should be benefiting from being able to stay in the same system. That's not what's happening.

All the Bills needed to complete their throwback 80's Patriots attire was a neck roll on QB1. "Hey, let's dress in red like teams our fans hate!" Better dead than red.

The moment that woeful throw landed I instantly looked back at Allen to see what happened and he was holding his arm above the wrist area as he ran off the field. He was struggling with it for quite a bit more than several minutes. He was still trying to shake feeling back in it before he went on the field for the last drive. He wasn't really doing that on the field though so I don't know what the tv camera's were showing.

Yeah it's always been Elway to me. Right down to the trajectory that they throw/threw the deep ball. He didn't run for yardage nearly as much but that was a time when QB's could get destroyed running the ball past the LOS. Randall Cunningham had a huge arm but that's about it as a passer. Inaccurate, long windup, couldn't read a defense to save his life etc.. But he could throw those Russell Wilson moon balls. They resuscitated his career in Minnesota with Randy Moss. Allen can't really throw those. Very different players, IMO. Cam Newton was very similar to Josh as a runner but he never had the arm talent Allen has. Not even at his best.

I've never been more psyched about an offseason acquisition in my life than when the Yankees traded for Rickey after the 1984 season. RIP Rickey.

Yeah, I thought the same thing when I saw it. I looked for it briefly online too but didn't find it right away so I figured it was new and would pop up at BFLO store or Lids something. I have a lot of these different "Griswold" style script Bills hats. Late 80's, early 90's designs. Some that I wore back in the early 90's.

This really surprises me. As in shape and self-involved as Rickey always came off I really would have figured him to live into his 90's or something. One of the 10 most talented players ever, IMO. Maybe even top 5. He left a lot on the table too. For those who don't follow baseball I would say he was like the Randy Moss of baseball.

That's your gut perspective. It's just not supported statistically. I think a highlight reel of big hits taken in 2024 would look markedly more violent than 2020. Don't you? I mean, he took two huge shots on scramble throws in that Lions game. And fwiw, the Daboll offense was actually very much about easy plays. The passing game was deep routes and comebacks. The comebacks couldn't have been easier throws for Josh. There were so many of those easy-button comebacks that Diggs and Beasley were taking a beating catching the ball flat-footed with their back to the defense. But the defense had to respect those throws in front of the sticks because the talent was there to torch any defense over the top. Especially prior to John Brown getting injured. Cooper is very good still but he's not close to 2020 Diggs All Pro level.

I understand that 2020 was seen as an outlier at the time but league-wide average completion % is up slightly (65.3/2024 vs 65.2/2020) and yards per attempt is the same(7.2). IMO Allen has had exceptional pockets to throw from this season. I don't think an excuse can be made that he doesn't have similar protection. In 2020 Allen was 4th in completion % and in 2024 he is 21st. And in 2020 he was #1 in success rate as a passer while in 2024 he is 10th. That stat basically tells you how often a QB is getting what is perceived as good yardage on every down.......and that decline might be explained by his below league average completion %. I think the explanation is that there was just a lot more to be had from the pocket and in-structure because they had a top 3 WR room.

Yeah, ultimately/eventually Allen needs to be able to live in the pocket. What they have right now is good enough to be incredible so long as he can still evade every pass rusher, make incredible strong armed throws on the run and take massive hits and bounce back up. Or gash a defense running the ball. The sooner he doesn't have to do that for the offense to put up 30 points, the better. Love to get back to the trajectory he was on in 2020 when he completed nearly 70% of throws.

So that's 12 straight losses. Still 6 away from the NHL record. I mean, they ALREADY hold that particularly dubious record with 18 straight in 2020-2021......so it would be a bit of a hat on a hat, I suppose........but what say you all about @Mike in Horseheads idea that the one constant isn't to blame for 14 years of losing?

Because having a true WR1 changes how a defense has to deploy its players. Think of the defense the Bills used to stymie Lamar Jackson from 2020-2022. A key component of that was challenging Lamar to throw outside the numbers and downfield and cheating personnel to the middle of the field to take away his favorite throws. That was because it was presumed Jackson wouldn't make many of those throws outside and deep. When Hollins and MVS were the boundary options that's exactly what defense's learned was the vulnerability with Josh Allen in 2024. When Cooper came the windows opened up for the guys who run the majority of their route yardage over the middle of the field. And despite the windows getting tighter outside.......now the plays outside the numbers are being made when they are attempted instead of falling incomplete to Hollins or MVS and people debating whose fault it was. As for Cooper only playing 47% of the snaps.........he doesn't need to play a set % of the snaps to make the offense good enough to stay on the field and keep moving the ball. If you are better on 1 play every 3 or 4 downs that can be the difference between a long TD drive or a 3 and out punt. That's why they call players like Cooper "difference makers".

Might be the most ridiculous, nonsensical string of sentences written on TSW in 2024. No, it shouldn't be said in that context. Not even to a lesser extent. Samuel made some plays when Coleman was out and he got more opportunity. But he was part of the redundancy that plagued the Bills group of weapons to start the season. All of the better players needed space in the middle of the field to succeed. But there was nobody on the outside to open up the field for them.

The key addition doesn't have to be the "only reason". Quality at premium positions = difference makers. If you throw Myles Garrett or Dexter Lawrence onto the Bills DL the synergy created would have TSW'ers wringing their hands about not having AJ Epenesa and Daquan Jones signed for a longer term. Go back and look at posts from the offseason and you will see that it was assumed that any offense with a prime Josh Allen was going to be a top 10 offense. The goal here was never to be "top 10". It's to be #1. Especially for those of us who don't trust a Bills defense in the playoffs. If the Bills had Amari Cooper from day 1 they would probably be the #1 seed right now. And might be challenging for the highest points per game scored in a season. It's always been my contention that it could and should happen during Josh Allen's prime. A 38 ppg season.

DC's aren't spending time figuring out how to shut down any more than a couple players on offense. Realistically, more like just 1. Think of Belichick's defensive approach.......he took away the best player and challenged the opponent to succeed anyway. For the Bills, that guy is now Amari Cooper. If you are willing to attempt deep throws to Ty Johnson defense's will concede that matchup and hope the passes fall incomplete. Just like they let MVS and Hollins run free outside the numbers prior to the Cooper trade.

I don't think it's any concern. This has been going on for years but we forget because these late season releases rarely make much of a difference. I remember the Bills picked up WR Kenny Stills at the end of the 2021 season this way. Ended up not getting elevated. The criteria to be one of these releases includes having zero projected comp pick formula value. It's a pretty narrow group of players.