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I wonder if someone is unlawfully in a dwelling if he/she refuses to leave when asked to do so?

The time to land Bridgewater was months ago when he could be had for next to nothing. I thought he was by far the best option at the time. I assumed that we passed because of the injury thingy. I sure hope these guys knew what they were doing when they drafted Josh Allen. Not targeting Teddy was dumb IMO. Bridgewater is not at all like Tyrod. In fact he's sorta like the opposite.

We don't have an offence to speak of so the game shouldn't be competitive, but I wouldn't discount the possibility that McDermott, Frazier and the Bills D bounce back enuf to prevent a total humiliation on the national stage. They will wear down eventually since we are only playing with half a deck but I expect a much better effort than against the Colts.

Pic of Tucker's reaction is priceless. After the Ravens scored I thought to myself (having no dog in that fight) wouldn't it be a hoot if the best kicker in the game muffed the extra point. I knew it wasn't possible tho. Football is a funny game that can mess with your head.

Whoever starts Monday night the end result will almost certainly be ugly. B&B are probably salivating at the chance of setting a record for points by one team in a game and of creative and never before seen ways ways to run up the score. And its probably likely that it will develop into a NE pickfest regardless of who is serving them up. I think signing Anderson was a good move. They needed to bring in a vet and they did. But I don't think he should be playing. To me his role should be mentoring Allen full time. He's probably the best QB coach the Bills have right now. He should be doing what McCown is doing for the Jets. So I would start NP. If I thought, like most people, he was for sure the worst excuse for a QB to ever walk on a football field I probably wouldn't do that. But I'm not there yet. Allen wound up in a situation that is very much less than ideal. Many feel it could derail his career. But so did Peterman. He might never be any good but I think he would look a lot better in an O organized and play called/designed by Andy Reid or Sean Payton. As far as the arm strength narrative is concerned, I don't think it accounts for his failure entirely. To me his problems have more to do with processing and adjusting to the speed of the game, same as for almost all raw college QBs. Many knowledgeable posters strongly disagree so I know I might be wrong. In any event I doubt that Coach has the stones to trot out NP as his starter any time soon or perhaps ever again.

No doubt that, unlike Allen, PM was drafted into an ideal situation. The same smarts in evaluating talent on the offensive side of things that led the Chiefs to trade up for him is evident in their other selections as well, most notably in a couple of their mid round picks. They really don't miss much. And their competence goes beyond scouting and is equally evident in knowing how best to use the tools they have, in developing an overall philosophy and in implementing the practical applications through play design and in game play calling. Mahomes would have none of that in Buffalo so it's safe to conclude that his stat sheet would reflect that. Nevertheless he would still be the same extraordinary talent. Accuracy, field vision and arm strength were all things that were abundantly evident in his college tape. Footwork and the historically bad performance of air raid QBs transitioning to the pros were the negatives. Allen also has mechanical issues to address but the only positive things where he compares well with PM for now is arm strength and mobility. Unfortunately the other things on the checklist, field vision, processing ability & consistent accuracy are by far the most important and the most difficult to develop. Mahomes showed that he could do those things early on. I don't disagree with you that if Allen can develop into a franchise guy the trade down will look a lot better than it does today. I give Allen a better chance of reaching all or most of his potential than some other posters. To me he is/was entirely legit as a high first round selection so that even if he busts I would say the pick was justified by the talent. His physical traits are elite, and he often enough displays excellent accuracy, albeit not consistently. His intangibles are off the charts. But one also has to acknowledge the risk. If Allen succeeds he will be very much the exception to the rule. Nevertheless I continue to believe that he may very well prove to be that rare outlier we all hope he is. To me the risk reward profile is a lot more favourable than it was with EJ for example.

Yeah, I saw him try to arm tackle Marlon Mack at the line even though he had a clean shot. He wanted no part of # 25. Very bad.

As was Edmunds. Really bad.

No. Unfortunately it's "any given Sunday".

And that's why Anderson will get the start. The only way Coach can trot out Peterman again, even if he might like to do it, is if his hand is forced by an injury to Anderson. Under no circumstances can it come across as an actual decision. Too much risk to his and Beane's reputation if NP were to crap out badly yet again.

I don't know whether it's so much about arm strength but the fact is Teddy has never shown a good deep ball and he wasn't asked to do much with it in Minni as a result. He's a very accurate short/intermediate range passer however and he's the guy I was hoping Bills would target in the summer. Had they done that IMO we would have a credible chance of getting a wildcard playoff berth. Maybe they ruled him out because of his injury.

I have a hard time seeing Coach starting Nate next Sunday, even if he would like to. If he does I'll start calling him McNuggets.

Connor throws like a girlie man, tho I'd never say that to his face.

Yours is prolly the best avatar ever. Congrats. And in other news the weather is nice today in Italian Somaliland Way to plant a bullseye on your forehead.

My theory (that I actually don't want to believe) is that they passed on Rosen because he is said to have a prickly personality. Sort of Aaron Rodgers prickly. If that's true it's almost as bad as if the decision was made on religious grounds, which I strongly doubt. Do Catholics and Evangelical Christians get along well in the US? They don't in Ireland.

Given the post snap coverage I don't think arm strength was the problem. NP simply was oblivious to two visual clues post snap: safety moving over to back up Joseph and, more importantly, that Joseph did not at all buy into a go/deeper route feint. He stays put and never takes a backward step. That's a big red stop sign right there regardless of who your QB is and Nate drove right through it. Given Joseph's position post snap and with all of the action in front of him it was an easy play for an experienced DB. Really ps-poor execution by NP.

I doubt that I would say we needed more time to evaluate someone who never played football. I totally agree with you that the pass in question was terrible execution that showed an inability to make, in this case, appropriate post snap reads. It would be hard to cook up a worse play call in the circumstances or imagine worse execution. But inexperienced QBs will do that. Occasionally even good ones do. I don't blame anyone for saying that NP should be drop kicked out of the NFL. You only get so many opportunities and he continues to make the same mistake.

Well I do understand that to be the consensus of opinion. I'm not there yet. And maybe all that proves is my lack of football acumen. We will see how matters develop.

Fans are uncompromising in their criticism of QBs and similarly unrestrained in their appreciation. If NP had made the correct post snap read on Joseph's pick six and made the appropriate decision to look elsewhere there were options available for a productive play, one or two that he is capable of making. Bills could credibly have gotten in field goal range and won the game. And then today some would be rehabilitating NP and cooking up a QB controversy. Hes just another raw QB who has not yet learned (and perhaps is incapable of learning) how to read a defence post snap (amongst other things) and therefore susceptible of being snookered by a quality NFL D the likes of which he never saw in college. If he can learn to do the things he needs to do there is probably a place for him in the NFL. I think he will hang around (in Blo or elsewhere) until he shows he can get it or proves that he really can't do it. Josh Allen needs to learn the exact same lessons, although if he gets there his ceiling is obviously much higher.

Right now it is more Allen (with maybe some Daboll mixed in) than the WRs and the rest of the offence. I have no doubt that our passing game would be much more productive if we had a good, starting calibre NFL QB. But right now we don't have that. And I say that fully realizing that the WR corps is hardly a strength of this team. Its really not fair however to expect more from Allen right now. Based on the crooked path on which he began his football journey it's hardly surprising that he is a sandlot variety thrower/runner rather than a polished passer. If he had the benefit of playing three years in a big school program with excellent and intensive coaching the way the other 1st rounders did we would today have a much better idea of what his prospects for development might be. And that's one reason he should not be compared to EJ who had some of the best QB coaching available to college players and still had issues. And the decision to go with Allen was not all just blind speck. He frequently enough makes plays that someone like EJ never did or could. That's why he was a first round talent and EJ, not Josh, should have been drafted in the third or fourth round.

More arm strength would be a nice to have but I don't think that was the main problem. Given the poor execution by both NP and KB I doubt that Josh would have completed that pass. In JA's WYO tape I have seen him make the same mistake and get picked (against Iowa I think). The real problem is that this was from the get go in effect single read execution from the looks of it. I don't know if this is Daboll or NP or maybe a toxic combo of both. NP hard wired his intention to make that throw from the snap, immediately turning his head to the side KB was lined up on and never looking anywhere else. The second he did that the safety broke to back up Joseph. The Texans therefore clearly schemed for this. NP did not make the appropriate post snap read. Drew Bree's would have likely turned this into a big gainer for the Bills, not because of arm strength, but because he would have picked up right away on the post snap coverage and made the Texans pay big time by hitting a receiver in the seam or an outside guy downfield the near sideline. So as with most young QBs (be it Josh or NP) the real question is whether they can learn to see the whole field, make the right pre and post snap reads, go through their progressions all the while processing the info quickly, and make the correct decisions.

Allen has elite physical traits for playing the all important position. He is also very intelligent so in principle and with the benefit of experience he has the cognitive ability to eventually make the right reads pre and post snap and to make good decisions as a result. He is extremely raw and has not landed in the best situation to be sure. JMO but I think he will be good, even very good, if the game slows down for him. If that happens he should become more comfortable, should display greater poise in the pocket and show more consistency in his throwing mechanics and therefore improved accuracy. There is a reasonable chance of all of that happening if the action slows down for him. Whether the game slows down for him has everything to do with whether he has and can nurture that very special and inate ability that franchise guys have to process quickly in real time. It's not something that can be measured in a combine drill. You can only see it in the results. You can be very intelligent, like he is, and not possess that ability. You can otherwise be a dumbass and still be able to do it. It's really a unique attribute. If Allen has it things will work out eventually. If he doesn't, or if he is inherently and incorrigibly skittish because he can't process quickly the things that present themselves to perception on a football field, he will fall short of expectations and perhaps even bust. It is far too early to know whether he can get there or not. By the end of next year we should have a much better idea whether that faculty lives in the recesses of Josh Allen's brain or is a dead zone (as it is for most mortals).

Next year's second and a fifth in 2020. JMO. I know we have other needs but if a guy like that is on the block you at least have to make a call.

There are plenty of excellent WRs in the NFL (and some elite ones) who do plenty to help their teams win and at the same time go about their business as consummate professionals. They just don't happen to suit up for the Bills right now. It's up to us to properly scout and draft WRs or sign them in FA when they come available, same as any other team. We will hopefully see some of that next off season. Maybe it makes sense to break the bank on a guy like OBJ in certain circumstances, where for example you have a level headed veteran lockerroom with productive players in their own right who can help keep the diva in line or at least render his misbehaviours less damaging to team chemistry and where it is strongly felt that the divas talent is necessary to get you over the top and to where you want to go. Above all you should never be in the position of having paid a guy like OBJ in part for intangibles that you expect him to bring to the table, things like maturity and leadership, in other words things that have never been part of his makeup. You can pay a pro like LeSean McCoy for that even if off the field there are occasional issues (bottom line McCoy has never been suspended and his lockerroom/on field presence is irreproachable and up to his talent). OBJ pretended to be that guy during three weeks of preseason play in order to get paid, but as soon as the ink was dry on his contract he quickly reverted to form and to what he has always been known to be. Did the G-Men seriously expect anything different? And OBJs dumbass behaviour is actually not limited to off the field stuff. He frequently cannot control himself on the field and winds up hurting his team. The Giants have a young group of receivers that OBJ should be helping to become pros. Instead they are mirroring his childish tantrums. Was all that really worth 80 million bucks? IMO you crack the big check only when both the talent and the intangibles are plainly there to see - Khalil Mack and others of that ilk. In the situation that the vast majority of teams are in giving OBJ (or Marcel Dareus) a contract like that is not smart. It's not the the only dumb move the Giants have made recently. Pat Shurmur convinced management that Eli was still really good. He's not. Barkely is a great RB but he's not likely to win them many games all by himself. They needed to draft a QB.

Maybe the Eagles problems have less to do with them not having Shady and more to do with their O line badly underperforming.