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Agree...and I hope that other player is Jaelan Phillips.

Looks to me a lot more like Cam Wake than Maybin.

And Jets fans didn’t like Q. Williams, who was drafted ahead of Oliver. Message board comments remarkably similar. Patience.

Another very good move. Beane is one shrewd dude.

Bills should be favoured to win the Division again. I am intrigued with what Belly is doing in NE. Brady has proven that he can win without Bill. I think Bill will go all out this year to prove that he can win without Tom. Their D should be good again especially with Hightower coming back. Cam has his faults and is not nearly the passer Allen has become but he will have much better receivers and those two premium TEs will help him out a lot. Pats will not be an easy out IMO.

Outstanding move by Beane and the Bills. Backup QB was a little discussed but nevertheless glaring need. Bills havent been as strong at the all important position since JK and FR.

Stupid money for this guy.

This is of course true. But as others have mentioned there are things that you can do to counter a very good pass rush and take pressure off of a mediocre O-line. I don’t know that KC made the adjustments to their gameplan that were necessary. The short passing/ground game was what the Bucs were serving up but there were no takers. With the Bucs dropping 7 in coverage stubbornly hard nosing it looking for the big play all day long was just setting PM up in a hamburger uniform and throwing him to a pack of ravenous dogs.

In Daboll’s scheme he’s more valuable than Roberts. If he’s a good returner I’d keep him and let Roberts walk.

1) Zevan Collins 2) Javonte Williams I think Williams is just about as good a pro prospect as Harris. In fact his running style might even be better for the next level. i don’t know that Harris’s sometimes upright style translates as well and I don’t see him highjumping NFL defenders. I also dont see the Bills using their first pick on a RB. They may not even draft one at all.

Not saying hes a bad teammate. Hes a spectacular talent and from all accounts a stand up dude. There is just a protocol, for which there is a reason, that says a QB shouldn’t call out his teammates in speaking with reporters. We all saw and know about the O-line problems. The receivers not being where they were supposed to be maybe not so much. Not a big deal but he might have handled it better IMO.

Anything Pat says gets reported publicly, especially stuff like this.

Ripping a player for poor performance in the heat of the live action and when it can still make a difference to the result is different than doing it in a post game interview.

There are numerous reports of Brady calling his guys out and holding them to account but I don’t ever recall him doing it publicly in this way. Big difference. Pat has some growing up to do.

All true, and what what Brady’s leadership proves to me is what Allen’s leadership may produce as he matures. He too has the makings of a great leader and has done a lot to change the culture in Buffalo.

Texans management has been historically bad and have bought this mess. He ain’t playing there IMO. Hehatethem.

I thought he played very well. I picked the Bucs to win but I sure didn’t expect a blowout. In fact I was worried (because I also wanted them to win) that he might make a costly mistake. He can be accident prone at times now in his senior years, more so than before anyways. MVP is game specific and other Bucs could have won it IMO but observers close to the team say Brady single handedly took control after he arrived and changed the culture. If thats true he remains largely responsible for the win. They were pre-Bady talented but undisciplined.

It is possible of course that the injury did affect his play in marginal way. As Hapless has pointed out, Simms feels that it could have influenced play selection or the speed with which he was able to execute. Perhaps I should have said that whether it affected his play or not it did not IMO (or “speculation”, if you prefer to call it that) account for the fact that he was not successful. The absence of his tackles, Tod Bowles and the TB defence were the reason for that IMO. You have elsewhere made the point that a QB’s abilities might be impaired even in a game where he was playing extremely well. So in principle you accept that a QBs injury may have no bearing on the result, good or bad, in which case it is immaterial. I’m saying, or trying to say, that PMs turf toe had no appreciable effect on the result. The reasons for that were different (see above). I think that Philip Rivers loss to the Pats in 2007 (torn ACL) is a very good example of where QB injury might credibly had a major impact on the result. That was not the case yesterday IMO. Speaking of Rivers, I think he played the Bills playoff game with an injured toe. I think he played about as well as he could given where he’s at in his career and I don’t think it had any effect on that result either. Just my speculation of course.

Could well be. They are certainly more qualified than me to comment on that (especially Simms, who played the position). But some folks are of the view that they should not even be speculating/pretending to opine on that question. With that I disagree.

Sometimes it is abundantly, visibly and plainly evident that a player’s ability to perform has been compromised by injury - Beasely, Brown, Davis. All I’m saying is that IMO that was not the case with PM yesterday. He ran for 475 yards (albeit not north-south). Playing with pain does not always result in a significant deterioration of the level of play. I suspect that his problems yesterday had more to do with the absence of his LT and a very talented D implementing and equipped to execute a good gameplan.

Yep. For sure there are ways to counter a good pass rush.

The Bills are a good and competitive team but there is certainly room for improvement.

It is a fact that he had the injury. It is to me an open question whether it significantly impaired his ability to perform. Did you see any visible evidence that the injury compromised his play? I didn’t is all I’m saying. When asked about it following the game he said it was the sort of thing players have to deal with and play through, especially late in the year.

Regarding PM’s turf toe I tried to focus on his footwork both running and in his throwing mechanics. I saw nothing to suggest that he was in any way significantly impaired by his injury. Mahomes was pretty much the same guy we are used to seeing. What yesterday’s game shows, and what we already know, is that no QB, not Mahomes or Allen or Brady can survive continuous jailbreaks (especially not Brady).

Hello Coach. I respectfully disagree. Unless there are factors interfering with the operation of a fair and open market, of which I think there are none in this case, agreement on equivalent value pretty much resolves the equities satisfactorily for all concerned. I don’t see how any of the constituencies you mention are well served if, for example, Watson sits out or is a malcontent, especially Houston’s management and fans. And if Watson goes to a team with lots of draft capital like Miami, the Dolphin immediately challenge the Bills for the AFCE title, and for the forseeable future. Haven’t checked their message board but I wouldn’t be surprised if there is sentiment in favour of a trade there. If what you say were true then people would never get divorced because, you know, the children. IMO sometimes everybody is best served by turning the page and starting over. Franchise QBs are very hard to find. But that just speaks to the compensation that would be required to achieve a fair deal.