starrymessenger

Actually I am more concerned with NE than Jets or even the Finns. I expect them to be competitive on O and very tough on D. I think Cam has some football left in him and not just as a running QB. Unlike last year he will have reliable options to go to in the passing game. So not just ground n’ pound imo. I also think that we are better, thanks largely to Allen, but of course we will have to back it up on the field where it counts.

Agree. He may have been disappointed with the round he went in but actually he could not have landed in a better spot. The Bills are not only a good team but the whole organization is one of the better ones top to bottom, and notably in the coaching and training and conditioning departments. As you say he is walking into a receiver room full of high quality veteran players who can help bring him along. I would only add that maybe Davis can give him a few pointers on how a rook can work his way onto the field and make a contribution from the get go. What Stevenson does well he does extremely well and they are things that you furthermore cannot teach or learn, either you’ve got em or you dont. He has them. Now he just has to go to work and figure out the other stuff. If he can do that he stands to be successful.

Really excited to see what he can bring. He is facing a learning curve no question. To max out his potential as a NFL receiver he needs to refine/develop his route tree, learn to use his hands (body catcher) and up his physicality (blocking downfield, beating press coverage) a notch - and of course avoid injury down time. If he is able to do these things he will turn out to be a major steal of the draft.

Yeah, I believe it. He looked a lot faster than 4:45 to me. He’s a burner and that posted time is not that. Great if you are 6’3”. Not if you are 5’10’.

15 sacks is an eye popping number but I don’t disagree that they need to be taken in context. Thing is tho there is also the 19 tackles for loss. The two stats complement one another to paint a picture of a guy who lives in the opposition’s backfield. Not all of that can be rationalized as the result of inferior opponents, especially considering that he had never before played the position and seems to have had his share of double teams.

I’m with Daniel Jeremiah and Calais Campbell. He’s a lot better than many seem to give him credit for. He’s a versatile defender who can bring pressure up the middle or off the edge. He can also set the edge and play the run. Maybe because he is so tall he appears to have great vision of whats going on in the backfield. I think thats actually why Beane and others say he has a nose for the QB. He’s got decent power and exceptional lateral agility, not to mention incredible length. He looks like a guy who plays with passion and has an excellent motor. He will benefit from the Bills strength and conditioning programme. Whats not to like? This was a good pick. The kid has the makings of a really good player.

Nice to hear. When in his draft year I started looking at Allen’s Wyoming tape I couldn’t believe what was jumping out at me in the way of athleticism. I had never seen anything quite like it. There are different athletic strengths and some are best suited to different sports. To me Allen’s physical talents were particularly well suited to the requirements of playing QB in the NFL. Someone recently posted that Lamar was a better athlete than Allen but that Josh was the. better QB. Josh is the better QB but he is also the better athlete for playing the position. The reason is what he gives up in the comparison as a runner he more than makes up for in arm strength. Much more given that its mostly a passing league. His other worldly athleticism was also the reason that I was always pretty sure he could develop. Anybody that gifted should be able to refine his passing game it seemed to me. Having said that his progress to date far exceeds what I expected to see. Dude is flat out ridiculous.

I’m thinking a long tall Miami Hurricane DE and I’d be good with either one. Would like JP. Without medical history he goes right after the QBs top of the draft imo. With medical history he’s in Bills range.

Vosean is a free agent.

No not necessarily. Or maybe you are just speaking for yourself.

Thats why its a good smokescreen.

Agree...and I hope that other player is Jaelan Phillips.

Looks to me a lot more like Cam Wake than Maybin.

And Jets fans didn’t like Q. Williams, who was drafted ahead of Oliver. Message board comments remarkably similar. Patience.

Another very good move. Beane is one shrewd dude.

Bills should be favoured to win the Division again. I am intrigued with what Belly is doing in NE. Brady has proven that he can win without Bill. I think Bill will go all out this year to prove that he can win without Tom. Their D should be good again especially with Hightower coming back. Cam has his faults and is not nearly the passer Allen has become but he will have much better receivers and those two premium TEs will help him out a lot. Pats will not be an easy out IMO.

Outstanding move by Beane and the Bills. Backup QB was a little discussed but nevertheless glaring need. Bills havent been as strong at the all important position since JK and FR.

Stupid money for this guy.

This is of course true. But as others have mentioned there are things that you can do to counter a very good pass rush and take pressure off of a mediocre O-line. I don’t know that KC made the adjustments to their gameplan that were necessary. The short passing/ground game was what the Bucs were serving up but there were no takers. With the Bucs dropping 7 in coverage stubbornly hard nosing it looking for the big play all day long was just setting PM up in a hamburger uniform and throwing him to a pack of ravenous dogs.

In Daboll’s scheme he’s more valuable than Roberts. If he’s a good returner I’d keep him and let Roberts walk.

1) Zevan Collins 2) Javonte Williams I think Williams is just about as good a pro prospect as Harris. In fact his running style might even be better for the next level. i don’t know that Harris’s sometimes upright style translates as well and I don’t see him highjumping NFL defenders. I also dont see the Bills using their first pick on a RB. They may not even draft one at all.

Not saying hes a bad teammate. Hes a spectacular talent and from all accounts a stand up dude. There is just a protocol, for which there is a reason, that says a QB shouldn’t call out his teammates in speaking with reporters. We all saw and know about the O-line problems. The receivers not being where they were supposed to be maybe not so much. Not a big deal but he might have handled it better IMO.

Anything Pat says gets reported publicly, especially stuff like this.

Ripping a player for poor performance in the heat of the live action and when it can still make a difference to the result is different than doing it in a post game interview.

There are numerous reports of Brady calling his guys out and holding them to account but I don’t ever recall him doing it publicly in this way. Big difference. Pat has some growing up to do.