starrymessenger

steelers know WRs

would like Pickens if hes there. Cosell’s fav.

True. i’m surprised there was such a big difference between his official and unofficial times. He’s a good pick.

ok i’m wrong and I do like him more. The tape I saw said 4.47 and 4.54.

Maybe i’m wrong but I didn’t think he ran 4.39 40 at the combine. id like him more if he did.

They were only taking a corner.

the guys an explosive athlete and I certainly do trust Sean when it comes to DBs. He’s not a 4.39 forty. Not at all. More a 4.50. Wanted Johnson so maybe just disappointed. Now hes a Jet.

not feelin it. pure need pick. ok in press but gets beat with speed.

thought he was going to dallas so when beane jumped. maybe.

j. johnson?

Sad. RIP DL.

JMO but I think it’s more likely than not we draft a CB at 25.

Schefter struggling not to be an a-hole. Not succeeding.

I’ll take AB Jr and keep the picks.

I don’t even think he’s that fast.

Good player. Great hands, very tough, excellent ball tracking, fantastic footwork. I’m looking for j. Williams, Burks, or Dotson at 25 though if they are still around. Given who else will certainly be gone by then, I might look to another position if a potential game changing WR is not available.

He could be the most freakish athlete in the whole draft but he’s absolutely not the best WR prospect. Not even close. I would take Dotson ahead of him even with Crowder on board. He’s boom or bust.

Undersized was the rap against DeSaun Jackson. We passed on him for the big boy Hardy. Dotson is a first round talent imo so I wouldn’t be miffed at all if he were the pick. Don’t know that Beane feels the same way.

Good trade for the Bills. Mahomes won’t have Hill and Hill will wont have Mahomes. KC will be diminished, maybe much diminished. Miami will be better but Tua is not PM. Not nearly. So Hill will be less of a difference maker.

He’s a great player/technician and it’s fair to say it’s a position of need. But he’s not ideal for any blocking scheme being on the small side. A lot would depend on what Kromer wanted to do. Zone great, power\man not so much.

That you would mention Cam in the same breath as Allen without comparing them as passers tells me all I need to know. Adios.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I thought Allen did a masterful job of reading/reacting pre and post snap in both playoff games this year. His short area accuracy is good, and has been for awhile and ahead of his long ball accuracy improvement. Even Kurt Warner has come round. And I thought overall he converted 3rd downs well working the last couple of years and was also very good in the red zone. And what about his ability as a running QB. How many linemen have those other guys stiff armed, how many LBs have they hurdled and how many DBs have they trucked. How mobile is Burrows of the many sacks? Some would say he’s not in the mould of the modern QB. Those skills are important. Josh bears some resemblance to Elway, but a bigger, better one.

Yeah but the cases would not be of equal strength imo. Allen can now be considered an accurate passer. Look at how much better his long ball is. Agree its fair to say that his accuracy remains a work in progress and is not yet the final product but not without also saying that it continues to get better. It will prolly never be A Rodgers accurate but the same could be said about the other young QBs. And while it’s true that WRs are sometimes required to make difficult adjustments/catches this is often because Allen is making a throw that the others would not even attempt, and for good reason. Mahomes is very accurate and throws a very receiver friendly ball. Herbert can be pinpoint accurate with excellent arm strength, though perhaps not consistently so. Burrows is an accurate passer. Nuff said. So I think these guys are all very good to excellent passers of the football. And they can all read a defence. Passing may be job one but then what about the other stuff? In looking at the package of critical skills that can enable a player at the all important position to impact and indeed single handedly take over a game well…they can’t do what Josh Allen do (tho PM is close).

Mahomes Herbert Burrows Jackson…they can’t do what Josh Allen do.

Getting him more legit weapons is just as important and to a significant extent serves the same purpose.