starrymessenger

Jefferson catches lots of balls between the numbers at intermediate depth even though he lines up predominately outside. He may be quiet but he is also known to be fearless.

Agree. I'm just saying that we need to manage expectations. If I were Beane I would not pay as though we were landing a proven #1 at this point, and frankly I don't think he would for the simple reason that he's not stupid. I'm far from any kind of expert but I suspect that BTJ and Shaheed are closer as talents than most might think. In fact so far this year Shaheed has shown greater versatility. They are both deadly threats to stretch the field. It all comes down to what you are being asked to pay in either case. From our perspective it is difficult to imagine a shinier object than BTJ. Smith, who knows something about catching a friggin football says that BTJ has more natural ability than Malik Nabers (if that's even possible) but he thinks Nabers is a better receiver. The reason he gives: Nabers is a dawg and BTJ is not. His maybe not being a dawg is sort of consistent with some of his play this year. It actually takes more than physical ability to be a great WR. Take it for what it's worth.

I'd roll the dice on that deal too. I sort of think Jags might be looking for more if he's on the block.

They wanted him to be more than a boundary guy. Had a target for him of 40% of snaps from the slot. So far hasn't worked out. For the same reasons as BTJ Shaheed has taken 40% of his snaps from the slot this year (up from 25%) and been productive. Steve Smith has said that in order to show real #1 receiver qualities BTJ had to show greater versatility this year. Hasn't happened so far.

He had a wrist injury earlier in the year, right now it's his shoulder.

I would not be at all surprised if BTJ is in fact on the block. If the Jags can find someone to grossly overpay they will pull the trigger, I mean why not. Shaheed has more yards and more TDs this year and has shown greater versatility (an important #1 characteristic), taking 40% of his snaps from the slot and being productive - something BTJ has so far been unable to do. I doubt that Rattler throws fewer hospital balls than Trevor. As a rookie BTJ had a 1200 yard season but he was pretty much force fed the ball because they had little else. I don't know but opposing DCs may have figured out how to make adjustments that reduce his effectiveness. Of course his rookie contract status is attractive but you pay for that and fundamentally you have to have a view, hopefully an accurate one, of the value you are getting for the price you are paying.

No. Shaheed has lined up predominately outside the numbers (75% before this year), even this year where the Saints have lined him up in the slot 40% of the time. Interestingly they have increased his slot presence by the same % of snaps as the Jags have asked BTJ to do, and basically for the same reasons. Unlike BTJ he has reacted well to the change and been productive. If as some say BTJ either cannot or does not want to play inside maybe Shaheed is in fact the more versatile player.

Agree. Just to add wth respect to Shaheed, he may be an X but he is not a #1. Not yet that is. I've seen where people commenting on the Saints say that his route tree has shown good development and Steve Smith has made the same point. He will certainly be motivated to excel in what remains of 2025 since it will impact the kind of deal he can sign as an UFA. If he were to go to another team after playing with the Bills chances that he will sign a big contract are high, the amount/terms thereof being an important measure of his value for compensation purposes. A third is as good as it gets but might be within the realm of possibility.

Like Deja vu all over again

Because Chiefs

Time for another screen?

Where's his happy face?

Wowzer

Torrence doing his John Hannah impression

Need a go to guy

But he's a game manager

Lots

Boys having fun

No. It's Ed Reed.

Bishop is first team all pro today

Two great plays in a row. Hey maybe he's good.

Bishop saw that from the get go

Odd that Titans signed him to a big K through 2027.

Hawes is our go to guy lol

Why time out?