starrymessenger

No. In terms of football legacy, I'd rather be Jim Kelly or Dan Marino than lots of players who have rings and whose names we have already forgotten if we ever knew them.

So Chris Johnson and Barry Sanders and Adrian Peterson and the Kansas Comet and Thurman Thomas and Bruce Smith and all the other great players at every position but QB who never won a world championship somehow don't measure up? Either you are not compis mentis or you are a child.

Disagree. Chris Johnson has not led the Titans to a superbowl victory, but surely he has justified his selection as the Titans first pick. Football is and remains a team sport and a total organization effort. Based on your criteria neither Jim Kelly nor Dan Marino were good picks.

Yes, we do. Why? Because football, like Wall Street, is a purely bottom line driven endeavour. Performance, or the lack thereof, is all you need to justify a conclusion one way or the other. There are no if ands or buts. Reasons, even good ones, not to mention excuses, simply do not matter. There are only results (or the lack thereof). Welcome to the world of high risk/high reward.

I really hope he learns how to run patterns, achieve separation or at least use his size to advantage as a red zone/possession receiver should. If anyone can teach him to be a more physical player its the Ravens. He will be in great veteran receiver company. Maybe some good will rub off.

If thats all hes missing, then he can learn to do it. Point is hes just a kid and he already makes throws that most pro quarterbacks can't. Not saying he is necessarily what the Bills and Gailey need, but hes one of the top prospect at the position and if he turns into the next Joe Flacco thats really not so bad.

Can't give you examples. There may not be any. But it is wrong to say that because he has had to work miracles with lesser talents he would not want to have and coach a legitimate franchise guy. He has said as much and I believe him.

Or Big Ben. Takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

Don't know much about Starks. Sounds like he would have been drafted much earlier but for risk associated with injury his senior year. Something to bear in mind however is, especially if he is talented, he is showing up with fresh legs at a time of year when players, especially running backs, are pretty beat up (so much for the 18 game season). Regarding Spiller, in order to justify his selection at #9, he needs to turn into a big time playmaker - whhich he has not done yet, but may do in the future. As for running backs generally, if your name is Peterson, Simpson, Payton, Dickerson, Faulk, R. Wiliams, E. Smith, T. Thomas etc, and people reasonably expect you to to be that good, you will be a top ten pick in any draft, and for good reason. BTW I realize not all were drafted that high (Thurman was a second rounder due I believe to injury concerns)but inj retrospect he would have been top ten.

Frankly, what puzzled me a lot more (because Peyton knows how to read a blitz and will make you regret it) is why that genius gregg didn't blitz Hasselback, especially in the second half after it was clear that his gameplan was not working. Where was A. Hargrove? As for Rex, he is one of the best DCs in the game and has been successful as a HC. So he isn't dumb. Personally I like the entertainment value. Hes the Ocho Cinco of head coaches. Not a bad guy and a lot more fun than BB. I hope the Jets beat the Pats, Tom and BB. This will not be a 45-3 blowout. If Sanchez can put 60 good minutes of football together, I expect a close game. That is perhaps unlikely but far from impossible. It is part and parcel of being inconsistent that you are good sometimes. If the Pats jump out to an early lead and Sanchez is not productive, they should put GF in. He is still pretty mobile, is very accurate and I think still has an arm.

Correct. All will be well - assuming our war room does not get "creative" on draft day just to show everyone how smart they are.

To this day, Cookie is a legend in Canada. His name always comes up in "greatest player" debates. Jack Kemp said Cookie was the greatest football player he ever saw. RIP

With a strong showing tonight, a great combine and good interviews I definitely do believe it. If all that happens I expect him to go # 1 overall.

Point is Kolb wants to start and would not accept a backup role. Might as well stay in Philly. Wouldn't mind seeing what Chan could do with Alex Smith. Vince is a suicidal fruitcake - no thanks. All academic though if Cam Newton pans out well prior to the draft and is there at #3. Chan would loby hard for him IMO and he seems to get his way a lot viz Spiller.

Saints put up 36 points yesterday, easily enough to win. Instead of trading for Marshawn, they should have traded for some run D.

Spring quarter of 2012 Sen.

Your right. Too bad he's a suicidal fruitcake. Truly its a shame and a waste of great talent.

I believe his program is complete spring of 2012.

Harbaugh is a former Pro Bowl QB and has personally groomed AL as well as generally directed Stanford's offence. I will be interested to see what happens now that JH is gone.

I thought 6 was McKelvin's score.

Not a Brohm backer but I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the Jets game. Right side of the O-line was down to street guys after our second stringers went down, our receiving corps was decimated, and he had Mr. Calvin Pace in his face all day. On the other hand I think Chan and Cortez probably have a pretty good fix on the guy. Don't know if he sticks next year. Almost certainly won't if Chan gets his way a drafts a QB.

I agree with those who say that next season will probably reveal exactly what we have with Fitz. At 28 and with 5+ years of pro experience he may very well be coming into his own. Chan is an offensive minded coach who has success with QBs. Having seen the result of his work in Canada for years, I also think Cortez was a great, though quiet, hire for the Bills. He is an outstanding QB coach. Marc Trestman, the Montreal HC, who also has a history and reputation for grooming QBs, including NFL QBs, has called him the best in that department north of the border. If these guys can help Fitz improve his technique he has the brains, leadership and attitude to be a legit NFL starter. The stakes are pretty high for the Bills but more so for RF himself. If he goes on a tear next year with so many teams needing a QB he is likely to be a hot commodity in free agency for the 2012 season.

Agree he is a much better and more effective player than people on this board usually give him credit for, but Chuddy will avoid him like plague IMO because of the huge risk of bad chemistry - and I think they would be right to do so.

Hey Sen, you forgot to mention that the weather is very nice in Italian Somaliland.