starrymessenger

Agree there is a good chance the atmosphere will be decidedly unfriendly down on the field.

Exactly. I was waiting for someone to make the point. Signing him diminished an important Division rival and subtracted a player on their roster who had big days against us. As to whether he is being used properly, like others have said I would like to see him run more options. I also do not like Chan's rule that if the kickoff is anywhere in the endzone our guys are instructed to take a knee. We have some of the best return specialists in the game and other teams are getting big plays on kickoffs despite the rule change. Maybe he is not confident in our special teams play, but then, you know, he should work on doing something about it.

JP Lossman. Its JPs stupid fault.

Stop it! He says he did not have sex with that player!

Chargers/Rivers/Turner suck and deserve to lose. However, no question but that those New Jersey teams, both of them, get the calls at MetLife. Two crucial PI calls on Jammer that Namce and Simms agreed were actually great defensive plays, comical ball (re)placement to force a first down in SD redzone on Jets last drive, numerous blatant holding penalties not called on the Jets etc...the reffing has been just aweful this year.

So not so good against the run?

Now that he is healthy I wonder why we are not seeing more of Kirk Morrison? Supposed to be good against the run.

Well, being from out of state I'm not familiar with your local rivalries. The fans were cool.

I agree the Rams intend to seriously consider signing Lloyd to a new deal. I sort of think we might have done the same. What interests me is our FO's thinking. To put a positive, and possibly accurate spin on it, I think their reluctance to bring in FAs at the expense of draft choices (especially during the season) is part of the Bill's personnel policy under this FO. They fully commit to the team concept. Player's grow up in the system. The team commits to the players in that their development will be prioritized. What would it do to Jones head if after a promising start to the season the team parachuted Brandon Lloyd because Jones was out for 4-6 weeks. Physchologically this management approach is designed to bond the players to the organization and produce the best results for the long term, to get the most out of the players on you team, in the best interests of the team and of the players. Maybe Lloyd would have been lucky to be traded to the Bills.

I too was at the game and funny thing is we were probably just a few feet apart. I was in the box right next to the broadcast booth. On the inside the partition was glass so I could see Simms and Nance by just turning to my right. MetLife is not much to look at from the outside. My Giants fan friend told me it cost 1.5Bn to build, more than Dallas which is state of the art. Says its because of the mob still controlling construction in NYC. On the inside though, as you will have noticed, the sightlines are terrific. Not a bad seat in the house. I tailgated a couple of hours before the game. Section K. I agree Giants fans are cool. They are full of their team for sure, but thats just criticizing them for being fans.

Darelle Reevis is the best cover corner in the NFL and its not even close. I wish he was a Bill.

Dont understand not going after Lloyd. Character issues phobia? Me first kind of guy/ Or maybe just a dumb FO non move.

O-Line is definitely better than expected. Fred has had some gaping holes, especially on the left side of the line. Left guard is playing at a high level, left tackle is more than holding his own. Line remains a work in progress but it should at least be clear that barring injury i.e. not much depth, it is nowhere near the liability many of us feared. How good can it be? Don't know, but I have seen enuf to say that it can be good.

That stupid song was the only thing I didn't like about MNF. Good riddance & get thee back to the trailerpark while you're at it.

True. It was more of an ad hoc type of thing. Screw as you go.

Fitz has been "off" in every game this year. He has also been "on" in three of them. Thats the point. He is extremely inconsistent, sort of hot and cold in the same game, and he appears besides to be very slow off the mark. There have been a few drops, but receivers (like D. Jones BTW) have also been victimized by terrible throws, some of them not of a high degree of difficulty as types go. To say that JP and Trent were aweful hardly addresses the point.

Didn't say he was the worst QB in the league either. Hes pretty good. Main problem - in terms of accuracy he is the model of inconsistency. The Bills FO know it. They would have rolled the dice on Cam had he been there at #3 (and would have won) and they would likely have taken Gabbert had Dareus not been there. IMO Fitz will not be getting the long term dream "franchise QB" contract this year some think he deserves. He may still sign with the Bills, because he would still have a good pay raise and a starting job and because he won't be getting that contract anywhere else.

He is definitely not a franchise QB. The suggestion is absurd. He did not play three very good games. He played three very good half games. He has started slow in all four games (and never got it in gear yesterday). D was not good, but they were on the field way more than they should have been because Fitz could not sustain possessions. He is a great guy, and a very good backup QB.

Not worried about Clinton Portis. I AM worried about what AJ Green might do after seeing that little Oak Raider shred our secondary all day.

Best case is a solid, convincing win for the Bills where they prove that they are in fact better than the opposition because it will show they can stay focussed and win a trap game, which is part of what a winning team typically does. Chan seems intent on instilling this and it will be interesting to see if the lesson has been learned. If it has then things bode well for the future. Anyway, that is what I look for in this matchup. I think a close score is possible but (hopefully) with the Bills clearly emerging as the better of the two teams: Bills 27 Bengals 17.

Lots of big running plays over the left side of the line and Bell isn't known as a run blocker...hmmm...something tells me that guy playing left guard is performing at a pro bowl level.

He doesn't drink because he knows he would make a total fool of himself, which he does when he's stone sober anywhere except on a football field. His panzy dancing hardly registers on the suck-o-meter compared with his run down the waterslide.

Such a weird situation with a guy who just cant gey money's worth. He has absolutely no leverage from a bargaining point of view but is in the top tier of offensive weapons in the entire NFL. Fred is an unusual physical specimen. It is quite possible that he can maintain this production until age 34-35 but he negotiates his next contract he will be 32. Again a weak bargaining position. Thats why Fred needs a deal now. They should extend him for 2 more years and pay him 3 mill a year, 6 mill guaranteed.

He was supposed to be nothing less than Patrick Willis. Seriously.

Its a long season and before its over Brady and the Pats will feel the loss of Koppen. He's a fixture in a magnificent O Line that is basic to their system. I derive no pleasure in seeing a player like Dan Koppen go down with injury, especially because one of my favourite things in football is good O-line play. That said, his loss can only improve the chances of the Pats AFC rivals, which now includes the Bills.